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As-in, do they appear to have a self-imposed standard or pattern to their choices, or it is a hap-hazard array of whatever they feel at the moment.

It seemed for a while that they were quite keen on replacing 25mms with 32mms, which made plenty of sense for MEQs. It looked much better and gave the model a bit more space, making them look a bit bigger.
But then they started upping the size for T3, 1W models like Pink Horrors and Bloodletters. While they do look better, I'd argue that those particular models should not have been that large in the first place to merit the base size.

But I digress. The main reason I ask is because the Eliminators in Shadowspear puzzle me. It seemed fairly consistent that all non-Gravis Primars were on 32mms, while Gravis and Characters gets 40mm.
Suppressors aren't Gravis, but they have a big gun and grav-chutes, so it fits.
Eliminators, however, are just Phobos armour with a cloak and snipe. Nothing about them seems to merit having a 40mm.

So what is the logic for them getting 40mms? All I can guess is that it gave the kneeling models more space to kneel. But that makes the Sgt (who isn't kneeling) look like he has too much room around him.
I cannot imagine Eliminators will all be kneeling once they get a separate kit, but who knows

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There is no rules logic, I believe. It's all about how a model looks on the base.

There logic is simple.

It looks cool.

Marines got bigger bases so GW could do wider poses and have the model actually fit on the base, something that was a problem on 25mm even before Primaris.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
There is no rules logic, I believe. It's all about how a model looks on the base.

Yeah, seems like it. But that is a subjective measure. I think Eliminators would look better on 32mm, for example. And Pink Horrors look better on 25mm (although you can always just get Blue horrors and paint them Pink, problem solved).

At least GW seems pretty lax on what is "required" for bases. "What looks good" gives you some crazy free range (which has pros and cons)

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I prefer my BLs and PBs on 32mm, but kept my pinks and daemonettes on 25mm. I bought almost all of them while they were 25mm anyway, but swapped up when I felt it appropriate. All the Heralds are on bases 1 size up; so Slaanesh and Tzeentch Heralds are on 32mm, Khorne and Nurgle Heralds on 40mm. Feels a better fit.

The fun one is Seekers of Slaanesh; they're bike 25mm-75mm bases in their basic box and Wrath and Rapture, but oval bases in the SC box. So...they can't decide which base they should be on. I decided for them and put them all on the bike bases.

I was just thinking this looking at the Shadowspear characters. The Phobos Lieutenant is in front of me now on a 40mm, but there's inches of empty space that would look much better on a 32mm.

Regularly marines on 25mm were always fine for me until I started stripping and rebasing on 32mms. Now I can't go back.

I haven't updated my space wolves, but I expect my Sisters of Battle to be on 32's when plastic does come, and intend to go through with base expanders.

Guardsmen fit happily, even in very wide stances, on 25mm bases. In general, it seems that most normal human sized stuff is on 25mm bases, but models that are bigger than people [such as Daemons, Orks, or Power Armor] are on 32's.

I still have metal terminators on 25mm bases... once I do the paitn job and the basing the model stays as is... that said, I do think some models look better with larger bases, but others not so much. In some cases (like ork boys) I think the 32mm makes no sense as you already have to fit so many models into a small deployment zone as it is so even new ork models get put on 25mm bases for me.

 Galef wrote:
As-in, do they appear to have a self-imposed standard or pattern to their choices, or it is a hap-hazard array of whatever they feel at the moment.

It seemed for a while that they were quite keen on replacing 25mms with 32mms, which made plenty of sense for MEQs. It looked much better and gave the model a bit more space, making them look a bit bigger.
But then they started upping the size for T3, 1W models like Pink Horrors and Bloodletters. While they do look better, I'd argue that those particular models should not have been that large in the first place to merit the base size.

But I digress. The main reason I ask is because the Eliminators in Shadowspear puzzle me. It seemed fairly consistent that all non-Gravis Primars were on 32mms, while Gravis and Characters gets 40mm.
Suppressors aren't Gravis, but they have a big gun and grav-chutes, so it fits.
Eliminators, however, are just Phobos armour with a cloak and snipe. Nothing about them seems to merit having a 40mm.

So what is the logic for them getting 40mms? All I can guess is that it gave the kneeling models more space to kneel. But that makes the Sgt (who isn't kneeling) look like he has too much room around him.
I cannot imagine Eliminators will all be kneeling once they get a separate kit, but who knows

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Logic is simple. They try to brainwash you to think that models on 25 mm look crappy. So the next thing you do is visit your local GW store, buy a bag of new bases and rebase your entire collection to the new standard.

They make the models and decide what looks cool on them. Bases and all. It is subjective but their stock prices suggest they get it right more often than not. If you don’t like it put them on smaller bases. I personally don’t think the kneeling eliminators would fit on 32 mm. it would all over hang and look weird.

The rules are lax on bases so base how you like.

Overall, I have been happy with the alteration to base sizes. As much as I loathe to admit it as someone that tries to do minimal basing, space marines and orks look much better on the 32mm bases compared to the 25mm which pretty much had models with their feet hanging over.

Maybe it is just me, but I like the idea of HQ choices being on a base one size bigger that the typical unit type they are. It lends some grandeur to them (and extra space for those that like creating mini dioramas) and makes it much easier at a glance to know they are the important dude in this day and age of 50/50 painted to gray.

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Scanned in an attempt to back-fit a pattern; theoretically you could write it out as: T3 = 25mm, T4 = 32mm, multi-wound infantry units = 40mm; characters are sometimes (but not always) up one base size over units. There are enough major breaches in the pattern (if it held true GSC Acolytes would have 25mm bases and Aberrants would have 40mm bases rather than both being on 32mm bases) that it probably isn't something they hold their sculptors to.


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 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:
...Maybe it is just me, but I like the idea of HQ choices being on a base one size bigger that the typical unit type they are. It lends some grandeur to them (and extra space for those that like creating mini dioramas) and makes it much easier at a glance to know they are the important dude in this day and age of 50/50 painted to gray.

I find upgrading from 25mm to 32mm for Guard or Eldar characters does look cool, but putting power-armoured Marine characters on a 40mm base just looks strange. Also I've got my Allarus Custodians on 50mm bases to line up with the FW Aquilon, and while putting Allarus Shield-Captains on 60mm bases would be funny they wouldn't fit anywhere.

 Galef wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
There is no rules logic, I believe. It's all about how a model looks on the base.

Yeah, seems like it. But that is a subjective measure. I think Eliminators would look better on 32mm, for example. And Pink Horrors look better on 25mm (although you can always just get Blue horrors and paint them Pink, problem solved).

At least GW seems pretty lax on what is "required" for bases. "What looks good" gives you some crazy free range (which has pros and cons)

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The whole range of GW's minis as subjectively cool/awesome/meh/grandiose/ugly as balls/etc.

When it comes to bases though, I think they should be on what they come with. Though, I rarely have any problems with people switching bases on characters.
But let's say that you prefer to have Orks on the small bases, when they should be on bigger bases nowadays. That could (and probably will) be seen as modelling for advantage. The smaller the base, the easier they are to fit in a space, and the more orks will get into CC and so on.