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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/20 21:25:22
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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According to this article from DenofGeek
Unsubstantiated so far as I can tell. And once again ‘an inside source’, sources I’m typically skeptical about as a matter of course.
However, I feel that may suit the guys behind Game of Thrones better. They’re a proven dab hand at battle scenes and swords and that. Translate Battle of the Ilegitmates for Jedi v Sith, and you may get an inkling of what I’m hoping for.
I’m particularly hopeful that in terms of translating the old lore, we’ll see the same sort of cherry picking from Rebels. Keep the good, leave out the dodgy. Including EU ship designs being brought back into canon.
A trilogy showing the fall of the Sith could work nicely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/20 21:36:52
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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So would that be the next three films?
The final of this trilogy better make bank first.
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-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/20 21:40:46
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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Erm, possibly the one after? There are two more coming. This ‘un, and Rian Johnson’s one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/20 21:59:48
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Wow, ok. They are dreaming big.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/20 22:09:29
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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They are indeed.
Galaxy is a big place though, so plenty to explore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/20 22:09:37
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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Multispectral Nisse
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I'm hugely dubious I'd enjoy that. I liked the old Dark Horse storylines well enough, and like most people enjoyed the plot of KotOR, but wow did all the retcons ruin what was an interesting time... all of a sudden everyone back then was a 'Darth' and writers were just clicking their fingers and bringing new Sith splinter Empires into existence.
The Sith were once a pretty cool idea. A one off title in one of the OT novelisations that hinted at something deeper, explored further in virtual pre-history. Then for some reason they were everywhere, and Star Wars was redefined into some eternal philosophical battle between rival sects of monks. With laser swords.
Based on the old comics, the 4/5000 year old tales of the Jedi seemed like a truly different time. Now though, there's just too much cross-pollination between the two eras. Darth this and Darth that, with some sort of immortal Sith guy being responsible for every bad thing that happened to the galaxy ever until Darth Bane. A Republic army featuring guys with white armour. The Sith Imperial capital ships being vaguely triangular and the fighters having the 'cockpit between two big wings' layout. Ugh...
I've been coming round to the conclusion that essentially, all I ever liked about Star Wars was the story of the plucky upstart Rebellion against the tyrannical regime with the Jedi stuff being a cool reason to root for Luke as a last scion of the past, a 'special hero' of the good guys. It was the setting I grew up with, not just in the films but novels, the old WEG RPG books, so on. This is why I only really like Rogue One I guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/20 22:12:21
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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Well, Rebels did a solid job of keeping the wheat and ditching the chaff.
Admiral Thrawn is Admiral Thrawn. Ruukh works nicely. No stupid bloody Yuuzhan Vong or endless Clone Emperors etc.
With similar ‘strategic narrative surgery’, Old Republic Stuff could be spit and polished into something more coherent? I dunno. It’s not my knowledge forte!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/20 23:20:41
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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While every Tom, Dick and Harry and his dog being cloned certainly got old, I actually really enjoyed the idea of the Yuuzhan Vong. The actual execution could have used more polish, to get more consistency between the different authors (like deciding at the start whether Luke was going to be the badass warlord or the doubt-riddled, ineffectual philosopher, rather than having it switch every second book...) but the organic tech was a stark difference in the tech-heavy universe, and having the Jedi come up against an enemy they can't feel in the Force was a really interesting hook.
I feel as well that with The Last Jedi including the idea that people can 'shut themselves off' from the Force, they've left the door open for revisiting the Vong later on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/20 23:45:40
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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Just say no to Vong!
If we are wish listing then I would go for a Thrawn trilogy. The old books are still perfectly serviceable, the story would be that after his kidnapping by space whales (seriously guys, space whales?) he gets thrown into the unknown regions and forms an alliance with the Chiss and the Imperial remnants there. The story can progress along the same lines as the old books did just with the FO replacing the main Warlord faction and the New Republic being formed from the remnants that survived Starkiller's attack and the Resistance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/20 23:59:20
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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I'd give it a try. At this point the after OT storyline hasn't really left me wondering at all. I'd much rather see more movies set during the era of the Galactic Empire, or further back in the era of the Old Republic. There's just so much more there to work with.
Love it or hate it, the new trilogy films have been awful at world building.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 00:29:41
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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I'd love a thrawn trilogy too, but as hats says the new films have done a poor job at fleshing out the universe, I'm not even sure how they would bring thrawn in at the point since the imperial remnant doesn't exist, neither does the new Republic as far as I'm aware post last Jedi?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 00:34:30
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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I didn't register "Old Republic" when I read the title, despite automatically knowing "Star Wars"... and then Game of Thrones...
...at first I was a little concerned that George R.R. Martin might have a little too much fun with Luke and Leia...
Then I realized you can do the 'weiner' song to the Star Wars theme, and now here we are...
...all my dreams broken.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 10:14:01
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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I sincerely hope this is A: true, and B: focused on the early part of the period, either the Hundred-Year Darkness where the Dark Jedi first split away from the Jedi and conquer the Sith species, or the subsequent Great Hyperspace War. Failing that, the pre-KotOR segment of the Old Sith Wars would be interesting. Adapting KotOR itself, or the preceding Jedi Civil War(ie, Revan's origin story) would be potentially interesting, but a bit dicier in terms of translating the tale while preserving the appeal of it, though the structure of the game's story does lend itself to an "OT-inspired" format complete with big twist for the second movie.
If they move into the The Old Republic MMO kind of era...I hope they do a lot of reworking. While I don't share Riquende's distaste for "turning Star Wars into rival monks with laser swords" thing, I do heartily agree that they tied the aesthetic of TOR too heavily into the prequel/OT style, and any stories of that period should snap all versions of Vitiate right out of existence, and that goes double for the Knights of the Eternal Bore saga.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 10:49:53
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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As someone not at all up on Old Republic stuff (wrong console, didn't have a PC), I'm pretty open to more or less anything.
I just hope they sow some seeds of intrigue that link it to the original stuff. That's no mean feat, writing wise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 14:05:43
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So long as they write entertaining stories, I'm willing to give it a chance. But given DisneyWars recent track record, I'm afraid I'm going to be waiting until AFTER some of my friends have seen it to go myself, as I can no longer take it on faith that a Star Wars movie will feature a story I consider entertaining.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 14:36:50
Subject: Re:Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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I'm honestly most interested in the used future/seedy underbelly aspect of Star Wars so I'm more excited for the Mando and Solo was my jam.
But what exactly is the release schedule going to look like for this project? Are Disney still pushing a Star Wars movie every year as their operating model or are they planning to slow down?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 14:48:58
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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I don't think it's been published so far?
But, in terms of Mando, Solo and Rogue One? I do feel the 'A Star Wars Story' gubbins is better suited to TV? More time to develop characters, and explore those grubby underbellies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 20:02:11
Subject: Re:Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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Captain Joystick wrote:
But what exactly is the release schedule going to look like for this project? Are Disney still pushing a Star Wars movie every year as their operating model or are they planning to slow down?
They announced after Solo that they were going to slow down a little to focus more on quality over speed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 20:02:30
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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Multispectral Nisse
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Yodhrin wrote:While I don't share Riquende's distaste for "turning Star Wars into rival monks with laser swords" thing
For the sake of clarity, I'm not saying that Star Wars shouldn't have that in at all as it's obviously one of the most iconic parts of any of the films. What I'm against is making absolutely every element all new films/ EU/supplmentary material tie into some ongoing eternal conflict of specifically 'Jedi' vs specifically 'Sith' like that's the only interesting thing about the setting.
(See Solo: "Hey, you guys like bounty hunters, smugglers and criminal empires? What if one was being run by a Sith! With a lightsaber!")
Actually, do either of the two new Episode films actually use the word 'Sith'? I only watched each of them once and I'm not going to subject myself again...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 20:18:36
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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Riquende wrote:
Actually, do either of the two new Episode films actually use the word 'Sith'? I only watched each of them once and I'm not going to subject myself again...
They don't. And I'm fairly sure it was mentioned elsewhere that Snoke is not a Sith, bu I haven't really been keeping up with the new background stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 20:25:12
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Riquende wrote: Yodhrin wrote:While I don't share Riquende's distaste for "turning Star Wars into rival monks with laser swords" thing
For the sake of clarity, I'm not saying that Star Wars shouldn't have that in at all as it's obviously one of the most iconic parts of any of the films. What I'm against is making absolutely every element all new films/ EU/supplmentary material tie into some ongoing eternal conflict of specifically 'Jedi' vs specifically 'Sith' like that's the only interesting thing about the setting.
(See Solo: "Hey, you guys like bounty hunters, smugglers and criminal empires? What if one was being run by a Sith! With a lightsaber!")
Actually, do either of the two new Episode films actually use the word 'Sith'? I only watched each of them once and I'm not going to subject myself again...
Overall, what I think really worked in the Prequel Trilogy was Palpatines cunning, and amazing patience. To organise, then orchestrate such an event and get it all your own way is frankly astounding.
For us Sad Old Grognards (a collective, not descriptive term), that was largely lost on us. Because we knew the End Game. We knew implicitly who survived, who won, and where the seed of hope was planted. If I could get a mindwipe, and have a 24 hour ‘childlike wonder’ injected or affected, I’d love to watch the first six films in Prequel/original order. I genuinely feel I may find a deeper appreciation for the whole.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 20:26:32
Subject: Re:Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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If they do the Old Republic, they need to steer far away from SW:TOR. It kinda screwed up the story of the first two KOTOR games in order to create the new big bad emperor.
What they should do is follow Revan after the end of the first film, as he is leaving known space to chase after something he can sense but not see. It is heavily implied he is going after the original Sith race and their Empire, which has been surviving either outside of the known galaxy or on the rim worlds. The whole "Immortal God Emperor" is really meh and kinda makes Plageuis looks like a little bitch in the later movies because you know, that is what he wanted but couldn't figure it out.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 20:35:47
Subject: Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Riquende wrote: Yodhrin wrote:While I don't share Riquende's distaste for "turning Star Wars into rival monks with laser swords" thing
For the sake of clarity, I'm not saying that Star Wars shouldn't have that in at all as it's obviously one of the most iconic parts of any of the films. What I'm against is making absolutely every element all new films/ EU/supplmentary material tie into some ongoing eternal conflict of specifically 'Jedi' vs specifically 'Sith' like that's the only interesting thing about the setting.
(See Solo: "Hey, you guys like bounty hunters, smugglers and criminal empires? What if one was being run by a Sith! With a lightsaber!")
Actually, do either of the two new Episode films actually use the word 'Sith'? I only watched each of them once and I'm not going to subject myself again...
Overall, what I think really worked in the Prequel Trilogy was Palpatines cunning, and amazing patience. To organise, then orchestrate such an event and get it all your own way is frankly astounding.
For us Sad Old Grognards (a collective, not descriptive term), that was largely lost on us. Because we knew the End Game. We knew implicitly who survived, who won, and where the seed of hope was planted. If I could get a mindwipe, and have a 24 hour ‘childlike wonder’ injected or affected, I’d love to watch the first six films in Prequel/original order. I genuinely feel I may find a deeper appreciation for the whole.
With new folk, I subscribe to the Machete Order(4, 5, 2, 3, 6). It preserves the shock reveal from the OT, it puts a bit of distance between Empire and Jedi which helps Luke's more assured attitude feel a bit more earned(since it "feels" like more time has passed), but you still get the additional context of the Prequels while skipping the largely superfluous Episode 1, and it also recontextualises the Prequels as part of Luke's story, rather than a straight chronological order which can leave Luke feeling a bit like an interlude in Anakin's tale.
I'd love to try Modified Machete Order(R1, 4, 5, 2, TCW, 3, 6), but I suspect that would be a bit much for a total newbie to deal with, even though I think R1 is a solid addition to the OT and The Clone Wars pretty much saves the Prequels from themselves.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 21:23:31
Subject: Re:Star Wars. GoT Team doing Old Republic Movies?
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Dreadwinter wrote:If they do the Old Republic, they need to steer far away from SW:TOR. It kinda screwed up the story of the first two KOTOR games in order to create the new big bad emperor.
What they should do is follow Revan after the end of the first film, as he is leaving known space to chase after something he can sense but not see. It is heavily implied he is going after the original Sith race and their Empire, which has been surviving either outside of the known galaxy or on the rim worlds. The whole "Immortal God Emperor" is really meh and kinda makes Plageuis looks like a little bitch in the later movies because you know, that is what he wanted but couldn't figure it out.....
The 'Old Republic' era spans thousands of years (of a basically unchanging Galaxy with no tech progress, which is... weird), but it means they can ignore the games with no consequence or care. Neither the old republic 'emperor,' revan or plagueis really matter to the film audience. They can be referenced or ignored at will
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 22:04:41
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Voss wrote: Dreadwinter wrote:If they do the Old Republic, they need to steer far away from SW:TOR. It kinda screwed up the story of the first two KOTOR games in order to create the new big bad emperor.
What they should do is follow Revan after the end of the first film, as he is leaving known space to chase after something he can sense but not see. It is heavily implied he is going after the original Sith race and their Empire, which has been surviving either outside of the known galaxy or on the rim worlds. The whole "Immortal God Emperor" is really meh and kinda makes Plageuis looks like a little bitch in the later movies because you know, that is what he wanted but couldn't figure it out.....
The 'Old Republic' era spans thousands of years (of a basically unchanging Galaxy with no tech progress, which is... weird), but it means they can ignore the games with no consequence or care. Neither the old republic 'emperor,' revan or plagueis really matter to the film audience. They can be referenced or ignored at will
The interesting bits of the Old Republic are all covered in the KOTOR/TOR series. It even deals with large parts of Great Hyperspace War.
Now, they could ignore all of this established backstory and go for something newer, which would eventually conflict with the later timeline things. Or they could not make the same mistake twice and capitalize on the already established lore/fandom and move from there. We will see which move they make.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 22:13:58
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Hopefully they adapt something solid. There's been a lot of missteps and nonsense since they ran out of GoT books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 23:03:28
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This I feel is Disney’s advantage.
All the ‘old EU’ is now non-canon, or Legend.
This gives them free reign to adopt the good bits, without having to carry the bloody awful bits.
Now, where that line lies, I’ll leave to you. Suffice to say I am hopeful!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 23:10:05
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:This I feel is Disney’s advantage.
All the ‘old EU’ is now non-canon, or Legend.
This gives them free reign to adopt the good bits, without having to carry the bloody awful bits.
Now, where that line lies, I’ll leave to you. Suffice to say I am hopeful!
Yeah, but lets be fair here. Sometimes they think the good bits are the bloody awful bits and the bloody awful bits are the good bits.
Is Abram's tied to this at all? I may have overlooked this detail but it is important. He is real hit or miss with me. I like his more original stuff but some of his work on pre-existing IPs is a little bothersome. His IMDB doesn't say anything about it, but it does have other unsettling things on it.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/22 02:37:02
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Fixture of Dakka
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Gimme some good movies with guys like Ulic Qel-Droma, and the like from the old comics that covered the Old Republic.
Although the Blizzard shorts are damn epic, despite being pretty similar to 'modern' stuff, as said before, where you smash the Old Republic and the Sith together and you just get the Empire. The old Dark Horse Tales of the Jedi comics really gave a feel of being 'Ancient Star Wars'.
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Dreadwinter wrote:Yeah, but lets be fair here. Sometimes they think the good bits are the bloody awful bits and the bloody awful bits are the good bits.
Perhaps I'm not paying close enough attention, but I haven't seen Disney pulling anything out of the reservoir of my most maligned EU memories - the Emperor's infinite clones are nowhere to be seen, nobody's shot down a tie fighter by shooting the pilot through the windshield with a pistol, Triocculus doesn't exist, sometimes that random dude in the background leads an otherwise normal uneventful life.
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