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Can’t.

Don’t know what imgur is!

Also, it’s Gaze of Ynnead, but we know what it really is

ooppss :(

At the end soulburst its only atack first?

thanks!

Only attack first, unless you can already attack first, or have charged. Then you get +1 to hit as well.


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One can also make a pretty resilient Warlord.

Trait 1 - Lord of Rebirth.
Regain a wound at the start of each battle round. And each time you would lose a wound, on a 5+ it’s not lost.

Married with

The Lost Shroud (artefact). All damage is halved, rounding up. And a further 5+ to ignore wounds (not sure you can use both 5+ in that scenario though?)

Other artefacts?

Hungering Blade.
Replaces power sword, starglaive or huskblade. Melee, Melee, S+3, AP-3, D2. Each 6 to hit does an additional MW.

Song of Ynnead
Replaces Shuriken Pistol. 18” range, Pistol 3, S5 AP-1 D1. Each 6 to wound is AP-3, and each time an attack from this weapon kills an enemy model, the target unit is -1 Ld until the end of the turn

Mirrorgaze
-1 to hit for attacks that target the bearer

Soulsnare
Once per game. Thrown in place of shooting. Select an enemy unit within 6”, roll 1D6. 1 = nowt. 2-5 D3 Mortal Wounds, thrower regains that many. 6 = D6 MW, and bearer regains all their lost wounds

Corag Hai’s Locket (possibly my fave)
Each time an enemy unit is destroyed by an attack made by the bearer (any type of attack, including Psychic). add 1 to the bearer’s Move and Attacks for remainder of the battle.


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Other WL traits,

Warden of Souls
Whilst Soulbursting, +1 to attacks and strength characteristic

Walker of Many Paths
Re-roll on hit or wound each turn. If army is Battleforged, roll a D6 for each CP spent. 5+ that CP is immediately refunded

Fear of the Grave
Enemy units within 6” are at -1 Ld. -2 during any turn in which the Warlord destroyed a unit.

Favoured of Ynnead
Each time the Warlord piles in or consolidates, they can move up to 6” instead of 3”

Master of Death
Each unmodified hit roll of a 6 made for an attack by this Warlord scores 2 hits instead of 1


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Right. Off for a Sunday Lunch (hopefully. I’ve not booked or owt!).

Will answer further questions once I’m back later. Please note I’m not currently up to speed on the playing aspect of the game, so info will be just that. No opinion, no comment on how Rule A interacts with Rule X. Best I can do there is give the exact wording, rather than potted ones I offered above.

No more extra actions?

No multiple FNP type of rolls for 1 wound.

Fair enough. Still far tougher than most Eldar characters?

Just....not sure it’s still much to sing about when you’re a weedy T3?


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karandrasss wrote:
No more extra actions?

Tied to Stratagems it would seem.

I have got photos I shared with my local gaming club, just don’t want to cause Dakka any trouble.

Any mandatory Warlord Traits for the special characters?

Lord of Rebirth seems to mimic the Nurgle Death Guard one that also regenerates. Although you're right that a high Toughness Nurgle character gets more value out of it, but it does mean an unusually tough unit for Eldar. Target with Word of the Phoenix to replenish any wounds that are lost, for even more rapid healing.

Walker of Many Paths might be useful to keep refunding CP to fuel stratagems that rely on Soulburst.

Is Dakka liable if the images aren't hosted on the site?

A short rundown on Stratagems would be nice, i.e. what can and can't they do.

How many CP for extra action?

Fire and Fade 2CP

Once the unit has shot, it can move 7”. Can’t charge in the same turn.

Deadly Misdirection 2CP

Used when a unit falls back. It can still shoot and charge that turn

Ynneads Net 2CP
Ynnari Bikers can move, advance and still charge.


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 Gael Knight wrote:
Is Dakka liable if the images aren't hosted on the site?

Buggered if I know, but don’t want to create any hassle for our friendly mods.

The real question is:

How do the characters look, particularly the Yncarne? Any major changes in rules and/or points?

Any "shoot as if shooting phase, fight as if fight phase" type stratagems?

Not that I can see.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not that I can see.

RIP

Currently trying to sign up with Imgur. This might take a while as I’m battered into submission by the modern age.

The things we do for Nerds

Warning. All photos taken in my patented Crap-O-Vision. I do the best I can. Stop judging me.




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Hopefully this works?

https://m.imgur.com/a/G5V4A8L

To quote that Blizzard convention: is that (Incubi stratagem) a joke?

Thanks for the link. Looks to me that Ynnari are insanely CP heavy to really make the most out of them. With a focus on melee too.

So now we wait to see if the BIG FAQ is going to nerf allied CPs.

......well, I thought ynnari might be interesting until I realized you lose all detachment benefits too. Lol. So you gain a rule that is definitely worse than rising crescendo and PFP, slightly better than Battlefocus and lose your detachment benefit to gain some truly awful Stratagems.

Inevitable fate and ynneads net are basically the only useful ynnari only Stratagems. Some of them are hilariously conditional too: only if you have ynnari harlequins drukhari and craft world units together? So one of each detachment and all three ynnari character tax? Seriously?

Would that particularly harm Ynarri though?

I suspect I’m missing something here, but surely they can just CP farm the same, just making the erstwhile allies Reborn?


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Sorry, cross posted. Was in response to puma713.

Am I crazy ... I’m not seeing a soul burst action defined anywhere ...

It’s under ‘Strength From Death’ fella.

At first pass, it also appears that there could be very powerful combos for the Yncarne ... and then you look deeper into what everything is locked into and it’s underwhelming.



Geoff Robinson’s looks right .... looking like we have been nerfed to the ground.

Just passing on one group’s opinion, but my local club seem to think it’s a Nerf a long time coming?

I neither endorse nor reject that opinion, because it’s not mine. I don’t know enough about the tabletop side of things right now to have a valid opinion of my own on the matter.

Yeah no, they are completely destroyed. Revenant is now flat worse than the other psychic disciplines and thier stratagems are as well.
Based entirely around melee while losing many of the best elf melee units (talos, grots, solitaire). No double fight or double shoot even though many other armies have those strats. No army synergy. Yvranne got far worse with the loss of words of the Phoenix, visarch remains pointless and ynncarne remains overcosted by 100+ points.

the_scotsman wrote:
So you gain a rule that is definitely worse than rising crescendo and PFP, slightly better than Battlefocus and lose your detachment benefit to gain some truly awful Stratagems

You don't seem to lose BF, PFP or Crescendo.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s under ‘Strength From Death’ fella.

Maybe the verbiage is not as intuitive to me. It makes me believe that a soul burst action is something in addition to what’s described under SFD but you’re probably right.


Very underwhelmed and disappointed so far.

Thanks for posting these.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Would that particularly harm Ynarri though?

I suspect I’m missing something here, but surely they can just CP farm the same, just making the erstwhile allies Reborn?

That's what I'm getting at - if the primary mechanic of CP farming also gets nerfed, then this new CP-heavy version of Ynnari is even worse than at first glance because not only were the powers and abilities nerfed, but now you must lean on your strategems to take full advantage of your army. That's why I'm curious to see what happens with the BIG FAQ - it will complete the picture of what Ynnari can do now.