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The Scions quad is totally bonkers

Huh. Didn't realize the elf boss was a woman (because: elf, and because every tell was obscured), and also... is her 'cloak' forming out of the jewel attached to the rod in her left hand, or is that just a weird 'GW join,' and the layout of the sprue just required a connection there?

Voss wrote:
Huh. Didn't realize the elf boss was a woman (because: elf, and because every tell was obscured), and also... is her 'cloak' forming out of the jewel attached to the rod in her left hand, or is that just a weird 'GW join,' and the layout of the sprue just required a connection there?

The whole of the warband is female.

The fluff is that these are somehow 'bonded' to shadow daemons and some can actually turn themselves into pure shadow or wield it as a weapon. Looks like that's what they're showing here.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Voss wrote:
Huh. Didn't realize the elf boss was a woman (because: elf, and because every tell was obscured), and also... is her 'cloak' forming out of the jewel attached to the rod in her left hand, or is that just a weird 'GW join,' and the layout of the sprue just required a connection there?

The whole of the warband is female.

The fluff is that these are somehow 'bonded' to shadow daemons and some can actually turn themselves into pure shadow or wield it as a weapon. Looks like that's what they're showing here.

Are they all female? I'm pretty sure a few are male (like the ones with more defined abs, ie, magic firehand, ponytail crossbow dude, etc). I know Morathi prefers women over men, but the tenebrael shard was a guy and even the Daughters of Khaine have the Doomfire Warlocks.

99.9% sure they're all female. We'll need the 360 views to be sure, but the ones you're saying are male seem to have the same cloth-strip across their breasts as the others do.


Tenebrael Shard was male, but also Shadowkin--a distinctively different faction which are Malerion's.

Lots of spoilers on the r/warcry subbreddit right now.

Long story short, the grand alliance books offer some significant changes and additions. Legions of nagash, for example, has a big list. Thralls include fell bats, bat swarms, direwolves.

Wow. I'm not unhappy with the Sylvaneth and Idoneth stuff there.

Leader abilities are interesting.

It looks like all Heroes have been rolled into the lists as leaders. Yep interesting that they split abilities into Fighter and leader tables now.

All 7 Cities of Sigmar have lists - Hammerhal, Living City, Greywater Fastness,The Phoenicium, Anvilgard, Hallowheart and Tempest's Eye

Ironjawz get Gore Gruntas

Khainite Shadowstalkers are in the Order book so the other 8 Warcry warbands "might" be in the Chaos book.

Death and Destruction are 64 pages, Order is 112 pages Chaos unknown probably 112 too but will they all cost the same?

It does look like there's a lot of new stuff.

I hate that they'll be 4 different books, but I'm loving the expansion of Warcry into a full AoS skirmish game, which it should have been from the start. Completely skipped the game initially, Chaos vs Chaos and ONLY Chaos vs Chaos was a crap design choice. Didn't even look at Warcry for many months until I found out most factions finally had a cardpack to make them playable, but the balance is kinda off for the non-Chaos warbands from everything I hear. Haven't been able to actually play it due to lockdown, but I now have terrain and cards and minis painted and ready to go. Hoping everyone gets a workover and rebalance for these books, even if it means the cards are no longer good

Daughters of Khaine are more or less GW's take on Drow from DnD. So they are a female led faction with males as basically an underclass. Morathi digs this in further by basically cursing them (without the aleves knowing) so that the males are born generally less physically capable.

So far the only males in DoK are warlocks who are skilled in battle (they are basically mage skirmishers), but who are also rare. One or two of that band might well be male warlocks. Morathi also gives the rare warlocks a blessing which is basically a rune that, if they start to get any ideas of superiority toward Morathi or her control; she kills them with it.


Of the party the one with crossbows and casting a spell could be warlocks on foot. Favouring magic and ranged attacks over close combat.

Those look a lot more like the shadow elves from Warhammer Quest Silver Tower than any of the Daughters of Khaine stuff.

From memory, when they showed the alternate builds back in the initial preview, the two presumed male fighters share the same loadouts, either dual crossbows or magic and dagger, so they're pretty much guaranteed to be the foot slogging equivalent of the Doomfire Warlocks. The rest are all definitely women.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Those look a lot more like the shadow elves from Warhammer Quest Silver Tower than any of the Daughters of Khaine stuff.

They look like the Tenebrael Shard, but the Tenebrael Shard is outright called Shadowkin.
The Mistweaver Saih never really got the same faction association.

Important note to make in any regards is that the Shadowstalkers are seemingly a secret faction in terms of the lore.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
From memory, when they showed the alternate builds back in the initial preview, the two presumed male fighters share the same loadouts, either dual crossbows or magic and dagger, so they're pretty much guaranteed to be the foot slogging equivalent of the Doomfire Warlocks. The rest are all definitely women.

Art seems to point towards all female:

We'll see either way on Saturday with the 360 views.

Oh man I am super excited for those grand alliance books now!

Lose wise Khinerai and Melusai are also "secret" elements of the armed forces. Basically if its not a witch aelf chances are you're not supposed to know about it

I suspect the spru count is the same between this set and the original, but a bunch of doorways doesn't compare to the terrain and monsters in the original. Was looking forward to this, but at $210 USD, this is a pass. Will browse Ebay for the warbands, but not paying retail or discount retail for this. With the Darkest Dungeon KS just going live at $150 USD for the game, I know where my money is going.

 Overread wrote:
Lose wise Khinerai and Melusai are also "secret" elements of the armed forces. Basically if its not a witch aelf chances are you're not supposed to know about it

Morathi is just a powerful elf who is pleased to be the oracle of Khaine and leads a cult that may be a bit fanatical but is ultimately comprised just of Khaine worshipping elves who are just elves and especially not anything other than normal elves, just like Morathi.

Screw megagargants. When are they gonna release the model of whatever left that massive skull?

And why haven't the Bonelords claimed it for their tithe?

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Lose wise Khinerai and Melusai are also "secret" elements of the armed forces. Basically if its not a witch aelf chances are you're not supposed to know about it

Morathi is just a powerful elf who is pleased to be the oracle of Khaine and leads a cult that may be a bit fanatical but is ultimately comprised just of Khaine worshipping elves who are just elves and especially not anything other than normal elves, just like Morathi.

Nice - I imagine this being sent to concerned citizens in many Azyrite cities by the authorities.

Its notable that they have become a part of the Azyrite society. Clever girl.....


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 Hellfury wrote:
Lots of spoilers on the r/warcry subbreddit right now.

Long story short, the grand alliance books offer some significant changes and additions. Legions of nagash, for example, has a big list. Thralls include fell bats, bat swarms, direwolves.

Soulblight goodness?

 GaroRobe wrote:
Screw megagargants. When are they gonna release the model of whatever left that massive skull?

And why haven't the Bonelords claimed it for their tithe?

Their advance stalled after Archaeon returned and stabbed Katakros in the chest.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Screw megagargants. When are they gonna release the model of whatever left that massive skull?

And why haven't the Bonelords claimed it for their tithe?

Their advance stalled after Archaeon returned and stabbed Katakros in the chest.

It should be noted that Katakross didn't lose that fight, its simply a very advanced form of strategic victory beyond the comprehension of mortals to understand.

zamerion wrote:

What might those little symbols mean? Hmmmmm....

 Segersgia wrote:

zamerion wrote:

Spoiler:

What might those little symbols mean? Hmmmmm....

Oooh, you got me all excited now. Weird that it'd be 9 of them though, and that two aren't the scions of flame or shadowkin. (Though the former was introduced in the first "season.") Rampant speculation, but two symbols have blood drops. Maybe that Soulblight warband we keep getting teased by the rumor engine? Also, could the scorpion be linked to that chained spiky leg/tail rumor pic?

You know, its weird they haven't released a skaven as one of the models in any warband. We got chaos duardin, aelves, beastmen, and ogors. But not a single skaven, despite them being chaos followers now. Ooh, but I'd happily trade a skaven for a chaos troggoth model

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Segersgia wrote:

zamerion wrote:

Spoiler:

What might those little symbols mean? Hmmmmm....

Oooh, you got me all excited now. Weird that it'd be 9 of them though, and that two aren't the scions of flame or shadowkin. (Though the former was introduced in the first "season.") Rampant speculation, but two symbols have blood drops. Maybe that Soulblight warband we keep getting teased by the rumor engine? Also, could the scorpion be linked to that chained spiky leg/tail rumor pic?

You know, its weird they haven't released a skaven as one of the models in any warband. We got chaos duardin, aelves, beastmen, and ogors. But not a single skaven, despite them being chaos followers now. Ooh, but I'd happily trade a skaven for a chaos troggoth model

Bottom right - Skaven good-great Symbol-mark shown - All praise-worship the Horned Rat

Ohh and I need a Soulblight warband

Thats why I brought up the skaven haha. They're a little late to the party

Dungeon fighting preview, 1/2" range for push into the pit is a bit short you'd want to have really messed up to leave a fighter 1/2" from a pit unless here is counter attack or other reason to do it. The rules could carryover to normal games for bit more variety.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/22/warcry-catacombs-dungeon-warfare/

Dungeon Abilities

There are also additional abilities that your warbands will have access to, enabling them to interact with the dungeon environment. There are three universal abilities that can be utilised by any warband, and another three that are unique to certain factions, such as the Corvus Cabal.

'This is Sparta!' style push into the pit is awesome.

Corvus Cabal getting wall running is awesome.

Getting very hyped for this box set.

Sprue pics - interesting that the Shadowstalkers are on the more standard sized double sprue and the Scions are on the smaller triple sprue like the other Warcry warbands as they have probably been done for awhile. I count 7 spears on the Shadowstalker sprue and multiple knives way more than needed so this sprue is definitely designed with AoS in mind.









and sides 3 and 4 of the board pack the squares are square in these images (someone messed up the preview image)



20 Clanrats with the Skaven box