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 Gallahad wrote:
The price increase is really disappointing in light of their record revenues and healthy profit growth.

When the last big price increase was announced Australia, New Zealand and Japan were exempt. I was slightly hopeful that GW would take the chance to establish a new internal exchange rate that was less unbalanced than the old one. Unfortunately that hasn't happened. Instead new products are just as expensive as those from the rest of the world and when old products are re-released their prices are increased to 'match' the equivalent international prices. I'm pretty sure that's what has happened to the warcry stuff. I saw the same thing with Underworlds in Japan. The new cardless Vampires are more expensive than the old ones with cards.

It's all smoke and mirrors with GW.

It's certainly true that the existing products didn't go up, but everything that came out after that RoW increase had the same increase as everyone else. It's why special character boxes went from AUD$70 to AUD$77. It's why terrain prices on new product jumped overnight.

They didn't lie. They just didn't tell the whole truth either.

There's an old Bugs Bunny cartoon where he is caught and placed in an outdoor rabbit hutch/pen.
His human captor leaves a large dishpan full of fresh vegetables such as cabbages, carrots, etc.
Between quickly shoved down mouthfuls of this, his favorite food, Bugs complains that he'd rather starve than eat that stuff.
Next scene his belly's distended from eating all that stuff that he loudly complained and still is complaining that he'd never touch.

Here is my unboxing of Sundered Fate: https://taleofpainters.com/2022/11/first-look-warcry-sundered-fate-unboxing/

Five sprues of Gnarlwood terrain. Three are repeated from Heart of Ghur, there is one new sprue that adds more platforms to the existing Gnarloak trees, and another new sprue that build the new platform piece.

There are some comparison pics in my review of how the new platforms combine with the existing trees.

 stahly wrote:
Here is my unboxing of Sundered Fate: https://taleofpainters.com/2022/11/first-look-warcry-sundered-fate-unboxing/

Five sprues of Gnarlwood terrain. Three are repeated from Heart of Ghur, there is one new sprue that adds more platforms to the existing Gnarloak trees, and another new sprue that build the new platform piece.

There are some comparison pics in my review of how the new platforms combine with the existing trees.

Thanks, this answers all my questions and the comparison shots of the old/new trees are incredibly thoughtful.

Nepherite priestess has an unmasked option, different hands, and the scenic base is optional. I don't think the rest of the warband has many customization options, but at least the leader has some diversity.

Gotta love the unnecessary adjectives to those weapon names! I would almost be disappointed if they just said 'Desecrator with Hammer' instead of 'Desecrator with Statue-smasher Hammer'.


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 stahly wrote:
Here is my unboxing of Sundered Fate: https://taleofpainters.com/2022/11/first-look-warcry-sundered-fate-unboxing/

Five sprues of Gnarlwood terrain. Three are repeated from Heart of Ghur, there is one new sprue that adds more platforms to the existing Gnarloak trees, and another new sprue that build the new platform piece.

There are some comparison pics in my review of how the new platforms combine with the existing trees.

Thanks for the helpful info!

Hmm... the masks they wear, and the statue-focus, reminds me heavily of the Order of Ivory, the defence force of Vouxis Prime in 40k (from the book Enemies Without).

Hell, the fact that they 'cast down the idols of their enemies' is exactly what the Order of Ivory does, bringing down the thousands of Ork statues across their homeworld.

They've redone and updated Varanscribe, looks reasonably good now:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/11/30/warcry-roster-builder-organise-your-warbands-and-enter-the-gnarlwood/

Ah shoot, I was hoping when they updated Varanscribe they would include the old Underworlds stuff. The newer stuff is in there (Darkoath have the new guys from Gnarlwood) but I guess we will have to wait for the old stuff a little while longer

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/16/there-are-lots-of-bloody-things-in-the-age-of-sigmar-but-whats-the-bloodiest/

I guess this confirms the next warband will be the "Psuedo-Khornate" worshippers. After this, we just need some Slan fans

Didn’t think the right silhouette was Khorne from the preview - EDIT actually it might not be Khorne as Bloodhunt is the box name so it could be from the other warband. Looks like LVO for the reveal.

 GaroRobe wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/16/there-are-lots-of-bloody-things-in-the-age-of-sigmar-but-whats-the-bloodiest/

I guess this confirms the next warband will be the "Psuedo-Khornate" worshippers. After this, we just need some Slan fans

There's an outside chance that they're something like Ghur Vampires, but yeah, it's probably more Khorne.

I believe the left one is the leader of the khorne warband and the left one the leader of the vampire warband? Too bad they are not ghouls...

I'd love something unique, like Ghur vampires (although bestial vampires seem to have been covered pretty well by Cursed City, so I'm not sure what they could do to make them stand out) but the running theme with this edition of warcry seems to be chaos god specific warbands.

Rotmire Creed=Nurgle
Jade Obelisk=Tzeentch

so if the new warband isn't khorne, I'll be surprised.

 GaroRobe wrote:
I'd love something unique, like Ghur vampires (although bestial vampires seem to have been covered pretty well by Cursed City, so I'm not sure what they could do to make them stand out) but the running theme with this edition of warcry seems to be chaos god specific warbands.

Rotmire Creed=Nurgle
Jade Obelisk=Tzeentch

so if the new warband isn't khorne, I'll be surprised.

It's an expansion, that means two Warbands, right? Why not Khorne vs. Vampires, they're both hunting for blood, would explain the name and all.

Wasn't there a rumor in 2022 that there would be a Khorne vs Slaanesh boxset released in Q1/Q2 2023? Also, Khorne and Slaanesh are really the only two remaining chaos battletomes and both look to be coming in the Spring. Given those two points and the silhouettes looking Khornish and Slaanesh (to me), I am going to guess that this set will be their god specific warbands. If that does turnout to be the case, hopefully that means the last set will be two non-chaos warbands.

 straken619 wrote:
I believe the left one is the leader of the khorne warband and the left one the leader of the vampire warband? Too bad they are not ghouls...

With the way Warcry has been expanding upon the archetypes of the Chaos Warbands, I wouldn't be surprised if the left one is some bestial Vampire character, while the right is a more slick, coniving Khornate worshipper.

Not sure if there's anything "pseudo" about this Khorne warband!

Equinox wrote:Wasn't there a rumor in 2022 that there would be a Khorne vs Slaanesh boxset released in Q1/Q2 2023? Also, Khorne and Slaanesh are really the only two remaining chaos battletomes and both look to be coming in the Spring. Given those two points and the silhouettes looking Khornish and Slaanesh (to me), I am going to guess that this set will be their god specific warbands. If that does turnout to be the case, hopefully that means the last set will be two non-chaos warbands.

The previous 2 boxes have a Chaos God vs a Grand Alliance.
1st: Nurgle vs Chaos
2nd: Tzeentch vs Order

So we still have Khorne and Slannesh from gods and Death and Destructions from Grand alliances. The name of the 3rd box is Bloodhunt (and Khorne is the chaos god associated with blood) and there is a Count Bloodhunt on the Heart of Ghur map with either the FEC of the soulblight symbol (They are practically the same...)

So chances are the 3rd box is Khorne vs Vampires (None of the figures in the preview look like ghouls) and the last one will be Slannesh vs Desctruction (I hope it's Ogors)

Segersgia wrote:

 straken619 wrote:
I believe the left one is the leader of the khorne warband and the left one the leader of the vampire warband? Too bad they are not ghouls...

With the way Warcry has been expanding upon the archetypes of the Chaos Warbands, I wouldn't be surprised if the left one is some bestial Vampire character, while the right is a more slick, coniving Khornate worshipper.

Honestly I don't know how I feel about that... I will have to see the miniatures to decide if I like it or not if that's the case

 straken619 wrote:

Equinox wrote:Wasn't there a rumor in 2022 that there would be a Khorne vs Slaanesh boxset released in Q1/Q2 2023? Also, Khorne and Slaanesh are really the only two remaining chaos battletomes and both look to be coming in the Spring. Given those two points and the silhouettes looking Khornish and Slaanesh (to me), I am going to guess that this set will be their god specific warbands. If that does turnout to be the case, hopefully that means the last set will be two non-chaos warbands.

The previous 2 boxes have a Chaos God vs a Grand Alliance.
1st: Nurgle vs Chaos
2nd: Tzeentch vs Order

So we still have Khorne and Slannesh from gods and Death and Destructions from Grand alliances. The name of the 3rd box is Bloodhunt (and Khorne is the chaos god associated with blood) and there is a Count Bloodhunt on the Heart of Ghur map with either the FEC of the soulblight symbol (They are practically the same...)

So chances are the 3rd box is Khorne vs Vampires (None of the figures in the preview look like ghouls) and the last one will be Slannesh vs Desctruction (I hope it's Ogors)

That's nicely reasoned out and probably just what this is.

 straken619 wrote:

Segersgia wrote:

 straken619 wrote:
I believe the left one is the leader of the khorne warband and the left one the leader of the vampire warband? Too bad they are not ghouls...

With the way Warcry has been expanding upon the archetypes of the Chaos Warbands, I wouldn't be surprised if the left one is some bestial Vampire character, while the right is a more slick, coniving Khornate worshipper.

Honestly I don't know how I feel about that... I will have to see the miniatures to decide if I like it or not if that's the case

With the general gist of WarCry being to present Chaos mortals in unexpected new ways i could see 'dapper Khorne' against beastly Vampires. It would certainly be a fresher wind for Khorne than yet another bunch of burly barbarians.

The boxes were specific God devoted v specific factions.

Heart of Ghur:
Rotmire Creed(Nurgle Rotbringers, once they saw their full AoS rules) v Hashut's Chosen(Slaves to Darkness)

Sundered Fate:
Jade Obelisk(Tzeentch Arcanites, once they saw their full AoS rules) v Huanchi's Hunters(Seraphon)

That's very different from Grand Alliance stuff.

It is kind of interesting to note though that the first two warbands have aligned with two of the warbands(Khagra's Ravagers and the Starblood Stalkers, respectively) released with the Direchasm season of Underworlds.

Keep in mind these will be regular humans--even bloodreavers are bulked up WELL beyond natural proportion.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The boxes were specific God devoted v specific factions.

Heart of Ghur:
Rotmire Creed(Nurgle Rotbringers, once they saw their full AoS rules) v Hashut's Chosen(Slaves to Darkness)

Sundered Fate:
Jade Obelisk(Tzeentch Arcanites, once they saw their full AoS rules) v Huanchi's Hunters(Seraphon)

That's very different from Grand Alliance stuff.

It is kind of interesting to note though that the first two warbands have aligned with two of the warbands(Khagra's Ravagers and the Starblood Stalkers, respectively) released with the Direchasm season of Underworlds.

The way I see it this might be another point for my theory... The next Direchasm Warbands are Crimson Court and Hedkrakka's Madmob. So Death and Destruction.
If this is not a coincidence the next box might have Khorne vs Vampires (Death)
And the last one will have Slannesh vs Bonesplitterz (Destruction)

Or maybe GW is doing totally random stuff and I am slowly going crazy... thinking I could predict their next move...

 straken619 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The boxes were specific God devoted v specific factions.

Heart of Ghur:
Rotmire Creed(Nurgle Rotbringers, once they saw their full AoS rules) v Hashut's Chosen(Slaves to Darkness)

Sundered Fate:
Jade Obelisk(Tzeentch Arcanites, once they saw their full AoS rules) v Huanchi's Hunters(Seraphon)

That's very different from Grand Alliance stuff.

It is kind of interesting to note though that the first two warbands have aligned with two of the warbands(Khagra's Ravagers and the Starblood Stalkers, respectively) released with the Direchasm season of Underworlds.

The way I see it this might be another point for my theory... The next Direchasm Warbands are Crimson Court and Hedkrakka's Madmob. So Death and Destruction.
If this is not a coincidence the next box might have Khorne vs Vampires (Death)
And the last one will have Slannesh vs Bonesplitterz (Destruction)

Or maybe GW is doing totally random stuff and I am slowly going crazy... thinking I could predict their next move...

It's a bit too consistent to just be coincidence if it turns out to be true.

 straken619 wrote:

The way I see it this might be another point for my theory... The next Direchasm Warbands are Crimson Court and Hedkrakka's Madmob. So Death and Destruction.
If this is not a coincidence the next box might have Khorne vs Vampires (Death)
And the last one will have Slannesh vs Bonesplitterz (Destruction)

Or maybe GW is doing totally random stuff and I am slowly going crazy... thinking I could predict their next move...

See, I kinda thought that might be a point for your theory too...but then I went digging up the remainder of the box names.

"Bloodhunt" is making me think that it's almost an action or a ceremony/event. It's not beyond belief that vampires might be involved...but the silhouette looks more elvish. Initially I was thinking Black Ark Corsairs, but after seeing the silhouettes a bit better today? Thinking Idoneth.

The final box is titled "Nightmare Quest", which if that isn't an invitation for Slaanesh and Lumineth's much discussed but as yet unseen Vanari pathfinders/rangers to make an appearance? I don't know what else could be.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 straken619 wrote:

The way I see it this might be another point for my theory... The next Direchasm Warbands are Crimson Court and Hedkrakka's Madmob. So Death and Destruction.
If this is not a coincidence the next box might have Khorne vs Vampires (Death)
And the last one will have Slannesh vs Bonesplitterz (Destruction)

Or maybe GW is doing totally random stuff and I am slowly going crazy... thinking I could predict their next move...

See, I kinda thought that might be a point for your theory too...but then I went digging up the remainder of the box names.

"Bloodhunt" is making me think that it's almost an action or a ceremony/event. It's not beyond belief that vampires might be involved...but the silhouette looks more elvish. Initially I was thinking Black Ark Corsairs, but after seeing the silhouettes a bit better today? Thinking Idoneth.

The final box is titled "Nightmare Quest", which if that isn't an invitation for Slaanesh and Lumineth's much discussed but as yet unseen Vanari pathfinders/rangers to make an appearance? I don't know what else could be.

''Nightmare Quest'' could involve FEC, they live in a nightmare of insanity and imagine themselves to be noble Knights, so they could very well be on some sort of deranged quest.

Whoever keeps greenlighting DoK releases should be tarred and feathered.

That's entirely possible. I only bring up the Vanari pathfinders/rangers as they're mentioned to be "questing" throughout the Realms at large, looking for sites for the Scinari to lock down geomantic upheavals.

Worth mentioning that the two boxes so far have had names that seem to be descriptive of both factions:
"Rot and Ruin"--Rotmire Creed and Hashut's Chosen
"Sundered Fate"--Jade Obelisk and Huanchi's Hunters

"Bloodhunt" might be, as mentioned, an event or rite. Hell, if it's Idoneth like I'm thinking? It could be both. Ghur is home to one of the most bestial Enclaves, which is heavy on Akhelians("knights"/"warrior nobility")...and the Soulbound stuff has been expanding them a bit more when it comes to activities in the realms at large.

"Nightmare Quest" is likely intended to tease both factions. Slaanesh is basically a lock for the "Nightmare" side of things, leaving "Quest" open for something else.

JSG wrote:
Whoever keeps greenlighting DoK releases should be tarred and feathered.

Any objection to switching out "DoK" for "any Elf"?