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2019/05/11 13:44:16
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
The "metallics" and flesh tones look poor to me, but anything that makes it easier for people to get into the hobby is a good thing. Will certainly give the odd colour a try on miniatures where they should work best.
I may have to give these a try. Looking at some of the other pictures, there are purple and grey options, too.
I wonder how well you can mix them, though?
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2019/05/11 13:57:47
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Interested in the white. That should be....different.
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2019/05/11 14:30:18
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
According to this twitter post, the pictured Horror was literally undercoat>contrast>one highlight. That's genuinely impressive; that effect would take a two-tone zenithal undercoat and 4-6 layers of washes/shades/glazes to achieve using existing paints. And that single extra highlight layer really improves the contrast paint effect.
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2019/05/11 14:36:45
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Yodhrin wrote: According to this twitter post, the pictured Horror was literally undercoat>contrast>one highlight. That's genuinely impressive; that effect would take a two-tone zenithal undercoat and 4-6 layers of washes/shades/glazes to achieve using existing paints. And that single extra highlight layer really improves the contrast paint effect.
Really? Regular undercoat and 3 or 4 layerswould do it imo.
Yodhrin wrote: According to this twitter post, the pictured Horror was literally undercoat>contrast>one highlight. That's genuinely impressive; that effect would take a two-tone zenithal undercoat and 4-6 layers of washes/shades/glazes to achieve using existing paints. And that single extra highlight layer really improves the contrast paint effect.
Really? Regular undercoat and 3 or 4 layerswould do it imo.
I’m not an onion or an ogre, I don’t do layers. these paints are made specifically for me .
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2019/05/11 14:56:59
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Looks like this would make yellows easier. One undercoat and either one or two layers of Contrast might make churning out Imperial Fists or Badmoons less intimidating.
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2019/05/11 15:08:36
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
puma713 wrote: Looks like this would make yellows easier. One undercoat and either one or two layers of Contrast might make churning out Imperial Fists or Badmoons less intimidating.
I was thinking the same thing for the temple guard blue/baharroth blue/ulthuan grey glow blending. I think it's really going to shine with bright schemes. Vivid blues, greens, yellows. I bet orange looks good too.
2019/05/11 15:32:53
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Some of these models have a "dipped" look to them so I'd have to think about when/where to use this stuff. Still, as a fast and easy way to get your troops done it seems to be a good idea.
2019/05/11 15:46:58
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Alexonian wrote: very intrigued, wonder how long until they release
It says June, so I’m guessing a few weeks .
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2019/05/11 15:50:56
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Well, at least we've officially removed any excuse for not having fully painted armies. Not sure if they'll be much use for people painting to a higher standard, but it doesn't get any easier than a single coat for base/highlight/shade all at once.
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2019/05/11 16:17:00
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Peregrine wrote: Well, at least we've officially removed any excuse for not having fully painted armies. Not sure if they'll be much use for people painting to a higher standard, but it doesn't get any easier than a single coat for base/highlight/shade all at once.
I imagine it will see some use by the more experienced painters. I'm especially interested to see what some of these Contrast paints look like over something other than a white undercoat (I'm thinking a bright green over Stormhost Silver would look good for Necron Warscythes).
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2019/05/11 16:24:45
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Peregrine wrote: Well, at least we've officially removed any excuse for not having fully painted armies. Not sure if they'll be much use for people painting to a higher standard, but it doesn't get any easier than a single coat for base/highlight/shade all at once.
I doubt that very much. Given the way they're trying to sell it as a simple two step process (contrast/technical, with the latter being the base), they're conveniently skipping over all the detail work that remains essentially unchanged (trim, guns, pouches, eyes, etc). The kind of people who didn't paint, didn't avoid it because of shades and highlights- they didn't really know or care about them. They just didn't like doing the work or dealing with the fiddly bits. All that is still there.
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2019/05/11 16:31:40
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
I like the contrast paints. For organic shapes and fabrics they seem like they will take a lot of the layering process out of it. I might try it out to finally paint my Empire army.
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2019/05/11 16:36:09
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Peregrine wrote: Well, at least we've officially removed any excuse for not having fully painted armies. Not sure if they'll be much use for people painting to a higher standard, but it doesn't get any easier than a single coat for base/highlight/shade all at once.
I doubt that very much. Given the way they're trying to sell it as a simple two step process (contrast/technical, with the latter being the base), they're conveniently skipping over all the detail work that remains essentially unchanged (trim, guns, pouches, eyes, etc). The kind of people who didn't paint, didn't avoid it because of shades and highlights- they didn't really know or care about them. They just didn't like doing the work or dealing with the fiddly bits. All that is still there.
While that may be true, I tend to agree with Peregrine here in that this is an easy way to get your army to tabletop, 3-color minimum. Some people hate painting, but they don't want to lose points in a tournament for having a grey army. This paint line speaks directly to them. Slather this stuff on your Orks' skin, your Orks' pants and their weapons and suddenly, you have a tabletop "legal" army that looks halfway decent. I know at least one person who this line is perfect for for this very reason. They don't care too much about how good the little bits look, as long as they have color on them.
Furthermore, it eliminates yet another barrier to entry, even if it is only a perceived one. A new player that buys a box can easily get a few Contrast pots, paint up their battleforce and get playing with something they're happy with rather than struggling through the learning curve of miniature painting. They can always go back and touch up the details - but it lets them get going quicker, which is always good.
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2019/05/11 16:46:15
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
I can't help thinking you can achieve the same effect by mixing Lahmean medium with whatever color you need. But I guess if you have a big project, these would keep the "mix" consistent.
Glad they're available for people, but I doubt I'll get any soon
Galef wrote: I can't help thinking you can achieve the same effect by mixing Lahmean medium with whatever color you need. But I guess if you have a big project, these would keep the "mix" consistent.
Glad they're available for people, but I doubt I'll get any soon
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This sounds like it's totally different than just thinning your paints with Lahmian Medium.
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2019/05/11 17:54:04
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
I saw them today. I am impressed although I'd need to explore their uses for advanced painting, not just speed painting armies. But I was informed the eavy metal team had been playing with techniques using them so that should be interesting.
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2019/05/11 18:10:16
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
So GeeDub reinvented semi-gloss undercoat and Les Bursley's Magic Wash, correct?
Not smack talking, it's an excellent combo and my "go to" method. Nice to see it easily available and prepackaged, lowers the barrier to entry. Just a bit odd to see people so stoked for a method that's pretty old and (I had thought) pretty well known.
Either way, I'll try it out. See if the ease of not mixing my own is worth the added cost. Cool add to the line!
2019/05/11 18:14:16
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Lady Atia has posted a large number of example pics of models painted with the Contrast paints on War of Sigmar
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2019/05/11 18:15:37
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
I'll buy one or two and give them a try. Never a bad idea to have another way of painting brown. Might be cool to give white a try as well. Anything to get those Stormtroopers painted...
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2019/05/11 19:14:59
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Galef wrote: I can't help thinking you can achieve the same effect by mixing Lahmean medium with whatever color you need. But I guess if you have a big project, these would keep the "mix" consistent.
Glad they're available for people, but I doubt I'll get any soon
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This sounds like it's totally different than just thinning your paints with Lahmian Medium.
I've been using Lahmean medium to mix heavily with my layer paints for months now. If you get the mix juuuust right, they achieve a similar affect to all the sample models we've seen.
That blue horror for example. I can mix a blue layer paint with Lahmean medium and coat it over a white primer horror and do the same thing.
The only bonus I see personally for the Contrast paints is that the mix is consistent each time you use it over have try and get that perfect ratio of layer paint to Medium.
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The models I want to see tutorials for with these paints.
*Plaguebearers
*Squigs.
With Looncurse being 100% squig heavy, it would be great to paint them fast and have them look good.
The cave trolls are really the only models that stand out as looking great, the rest don't look bad by any means. And seeing as how I never paint 90% of what I buy, this is a boon for lazy painters like me.
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2019/05/11 19:38:27
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
I just painted speed painted up this blood reaver in 30 minutes to showcase what it looks like if you take regular acrylic paint and thin it with just water.
Everything is just one layer of paint.
Tell me, is there any significant difference to what GW is showing?
2019/05/11 19:41:27
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
GaroRobe wrote: The models I want to see done are:
*Plaguebearers (though, these models are usually just a white undercoat and a few washes)
*Squigs.
With Looncurse being 100% squig heavy, it would be great to paint them fast and have them look good.
Check the LINK to War of Sigmar that I posted earlier.for some squigs (of the regular and Mangler varieties).
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2019/05/11 19:59:39
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
DanceOfSlaanesh wrote: I just painted speed painted up this blood reaver in 30 minutes to showcase what it looks like if you take regular acrylic paint and thin it with just water.
Everything is just one layer of paint.
Tell me, is there any significant difference to what GW is showing?