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2019/05/22 14:36:59
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
I'm a very cynical old git. I'v been around since 3rd ed 40k. I hate many things GW've pulled over the years- scale creep, toyification of the lines, I could go on.
However, I have to say, I love what they are doing with contrast and making things accessible to newcomers. I love Duncan and co's painting videos and so on. This is really positive work and I hope the company is rewarded heavily for it.
Warhammer Community has had ups and downs and makes me groan occasionally, but it has been a good effort I feel, in general.
2019/05/22 14:47:47
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Crimson wrote: Well, that was long video of people telling how amazing these paints are, instead of properly showing what they do. Now, I am convinced that these will be a good, but I'd really like to see a step by step painting process with these on couple of different models by a competent painter. Duncan, get to it!
It was apparently the 'all clear' signal for the people at the Painter's Weekend event they held to post up what they did there.
Tyler Mengel posted up these:
This one was "all Contrast, barring the metals over the off-white":
Spoiler:
This one was "a mix of Contrast and regular paints"
Spoiler:
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2019/05/22 14:52:37
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
=Angel= wrote: I'm a very cynical old git. I'v been around since 3rd ed 40k. I hate many things GW've pulled over the years- scale creep, toyification of the lines, I could go on.
However, I have to say, I love what they are doing with contrast and making things accessible to newcomers. I love Duncan and co's painting videos and so on. This is really positive work and I hope the company is rewarded heavily for it.
Warhammer Community has had ups and downs and makes me groan occasionally, but it has been a good effort I feel, in general.
Contrast to get you started. Duncan and Peachy to keep you enthused and trying harder.
Luvverly.
Spesh when you compare to the old, old, old 'guides'. Paint it red! Like, put a line on it. MAGIC! Collect your Golden Demon!
Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?
Wish they’d show some of the finished pieces to see what real painters can do with them.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2019/05/22 15:04:03
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
rayphoton wrote: Yeah, that video did way more to sell me on this as opposed to people who work for GW. Some of those artists I follow and have a lot of respect for.
This kind of post shows that people didn't actually pay attention to what was happening at the Tokyo trade event same time as Warhammerfest was doing open demos for people at the event.
How do you mean?
Age Quod Agis
2019/05/22 15:13:20
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
rayphoton wrote: Yeah, that video did way more to sell me on this as opposed to people who work for GW. Some of those artists I follow and have a lot of respect for.
This kind of post shows that people didn't actually pay attention to what was happening at the Tokyo trade event same time as Warhammerfest was doing open demos for people at the event.
How do you mean?
It wasn't just employees that were painting models using the new stuff. They had demo stations at Warhammerfest where anyone could use the stuff on preprimed models and there was a woman known for her painting showcasing the stuff in Tokyo.
2019/05/22 15:19:22
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
rayphoton wrote: Yeah, that video did way more to sell me on this as opposed to people who work for GW. Some of those artists I follow and have a lot of respect for.
This kind of post shows that people didn't actually pay attention to what was happening at the Tokyo trade event same time as Warhammerfest was doing open demos for people at the event.
How do you mean?
It wasn't just employees that were painting models using the new stuff. They had demo stations at Warhammerfest where anyone could use the stuff on preprimed models and there was a woman known for her painting showcasing the stuff in Tokyo.
The horde of general people painting poxwalkers didn't impress me. Beginners suck no matter what they are using.(I did too when I was starting off)
Link to the tokyo lady?
Age Quod Agis
2019/05/22 15:24:22
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/22 15:53:19
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Overread wrote: Poor Duncan - first they are releasing Knights with spikes on them and now now they are releasing contrast paints and destroying his glory of being "two thin coats" man!
They'll likely have to retire him or spend copious amounts of time retraining him to say "one thick coat"
Make him paint wearing a parka for a couple weeks, he’ll get it down quick enough.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2019/05/22 16:05:14
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
This mini was painted by Kris Belleau of MiniWarGaming:
Spoiler:
This is what I was painting in the vid. 90% was done in a hour, then the knit picking phase was longer... I was mainly curious about how it blended.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/22 16:16:40
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
The Skaven above impressed me, but is it weird that Kris' Arch-regent, in an hour... doesn't seem very exciting? I feel like it conveys neither "faster" nor "better" in this particular instance... and I usually really like his work.
11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
3730 Total (210pts painted)
2019/05/22 16:24:24
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: The Skaven above impressed me, but is it weird that Kris' Arch-regent, in an hour... doesn't seem very exciting? I feel like it conveys neither "faster" nor "better" in this particular instance... and I usually really like his work.
I think it's likely something from his nitpicking afterwards. Not familiar with his work though, as I avoid MWG these days.
2019/05/22 16:29:53
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
That Skaven looks pretty good for very little effort. Normally I’m one for painting a very small number of minis to the highest standard I can manage, however, I should be receiving a Zombicide Invader pledge sometime and these look perfect for getting those minis looking good enough to play with.
2019/05/22 19:58:09
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
I've been fairly underwhelmed by all the painted examples so far, these newest ones are no different with the exception of the grey-blue parts of the Skaven.
Nothing seems anywhere close to this:
Spoiler:
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sockwithaticket wrote: I've been fairly underwhelmed by all the painted examples so far, these newest ones are no different with the exception of the grey-blue parts of the Skaven.
Nothing seems anywhere close to this:
Spoiler:
Remember that this was most likely the first time these painters had used the new Contrast paints. They were more likely trying to find out what the paints could do (like blending on the Arch-regent) instead of focusing on painting an award-winning model.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/22 20:57:30
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Some of those do look pretty decent. Award-winning? No. Better than most stuff seen on the table top? Yeah. Better than grey plastic? Abso-feckin-lutely!
I'm curious how these might look over some zenithal primed stuff, especially non-traditional black-grey-white zenithal. Guess I'll have to pick a few up to try out...
2019/05/22 21:44:59
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
I definitely think the model examples are a lot more interesting than the video was tbh. I just want to see more examples of things competent painters have done, and to know roughly how long they spent.
But it seems the video may have resulted in some kind of embargo drop for those painters, so the Skaven for example is really useful to understand what these paints can do. It looks pretty good for the time spent.
2019/05/22 22:07:46
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Some thoughts from Pete the Wargamer on the new Contrast paints:
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/22 22:09:06
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
sockwithaticket wrote: I've been fairly underwhelmed by all the painted examples so far, these newest ones are no different with the exception of the grey-blue parts of the Skaven.
Nothing seems anywhere close to this:
Spoiler:
Remember that this was most likely the first time these painters had used the new Contrast paints. They were more likely trying to find out what the paints could do (like blending on the Arch-regent) instead of focusing on painting an award-winning model.
While not expecting award-winning, I did think painters of their repute would produce something more impressive even while playing around. Don't see much evidence of blending on the vamp, a bit of layering sure.
Ditto the bloke in the other vid mentions wet blending and I just don't see anything on his examples that looks like a particularly good blend. The best thing is the Nurgle machine's armour plate, but I was just looking at that thinking, give me a camo wash (or even paint), some sepia and some dark brown and I reckon you could get a very similar result without much difficulty.
That Vamp dude and the Skaven are amazing. Other stuff is mixed.
I absolutely love the pillar, though, looks like a flamer went to town on it. Not good if you want dusty ruins, but for a bombed out city with sooth and stains it'd be a nice start.
Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights.
2019/05/23 00:31:11
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Valander wrote: Some of those do look pretty decent. Award-winning? No. Better than most stuff seen on the table top? Yeah. Better than grey plastic? Abso-feckin-lutely!
I'm curious how these might look over some zenithal primed stuff, especially non-traditional black-grey-white zenithal. Guess I'll have to pick a few up to try out...
I'm interested in this as well. I have a bit of the new Vallejo German Field Grey spray left over from my AT Titans, which is a slightly warm grey colour that should make a good shade tone for the warm white contrast spray. I'll have to find a nice neutral grey for the cooler contrast tone.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2019/05/23 06:55:58
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
Nick Bayton has already shown off his Zenital-primed Contrast efforts on the Twitter.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
2019/05/23 07:46:49
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
sockwithaticket wrote: I've been fairly underwhelmed by all the painted examples so far, these newest ones are no different with the exception of the grey-blue parts of the Skaven.
Nothing seems anywhere close to this:
Spoiler:
Does somebody expect this to produce effect like that? Hell no. It's not miracle tool.
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2019/05/23 08:54:53
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
sockwithaticket wrote: I've been fairly underwhelmed by all the painted examples so far, these newest ones are no different with the exception of the grey-blue parts of the Skaven.
Nothing seems anywhere close to this:
Spoiler:
Because the models your seeing are first attempts (or close to it) and more importantly because they are done using purely Contrast.
There is only so much you can do when painting a model with only a kind of glaze to work with.
Give them a bit of time and let them use the rest of the paint range and you will get beautiful things, but this was just to show off what the Contrast paint itself can accomplish and the Skaven looks, imo, amazing for that.
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2019/05/23 09:08:49
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
sockwithaticket wrote: I've been fairly underwhelmed by all the painted examples so far, these newest ones are no different with the exception of the grey-blue parts of the Skaven.
Nothing seems anywhere close to this:
Spoiler:
Does somebody expect this to produce effect like that? Hell no. It's not miracle tool.
I'm pretty sure that's one of the promo images they're using for the Contrast line, which would imply it was done with Contrast paints.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2019/05/23 09:11:08
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8
sockwithaticket wrote: I've been fairly underwhelmed by all the painted examples so far, these newest ones are no different with the exception of the grey-blue parts of the Skaven.
Nothing seems anywhere close to this:
Spoiler:
Does somebody expect this to produce effect like that? Hell no. It's not miracle tool.
I'm pretty sure that's one of the promo images they're using for the Contrast line, which would imply it was done with Contrast paints.
Precisely and I'm not looking for someone to have produced work of that (seeming) quality already, just something that indicates it's a possibility with just that contracts paints. So far nothing looks like even a stepping stone to that kind of work, so I wonder why they've got it as a promo image alongside the paints.
11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
3730 Total (210pts painted) 
