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I wonder what the "terms and conditions" for the Battle ready sets will be? No multiples of the same colour, only one metallic, compulsory varnish? Whatever they are it sounds like its time to start making a project list

Is anybody else bothered by the fact that the paint chart doesn't have the colors grouped by color?
Anyway, I expect the Battle Ready sets to be limited to a smaller pool of paints to choose from rather than the entire range to prevent people from just selecting the just expense options from each category

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Is anybody else bothered by the fact that the paint chart doesn't have the colors grouped by color?

No. But it does seem like they missed the new Layer paints that are up on ACD Distribution:

22-86 Kakophoni Purple
22-87 Sons of Horus Green
22-88 Phalanx Yellow
22-89 Castellax Bronze
22-90 Vulkan Green
22-91 Word Bearers Red
22-92 Bloodreaver Flesh
22-93 Knight-Questor Flesh

 Kanluwen wrote:
I am so on board with their "Battle Ready Paint Sets" idea.

GW offering discounts is always to be welcomed, but considering how restrictive the selection is the discount would have to be pretty good compared to just ordering exactly what you want at a flat ~20% off from an online retailer.

Yeah, if it's a good enough deal I'll find paints I want even if I've no immediate use for them, otherwise I'll just graze the range as and when.

I don't get what is the point of Corvus Black. Don't they already make multiple other black paints?

 Kanluwen wrote:
I am so on board with their "Battle Ready Paint Sets" idea.

Really? In case you haven't noticed, you need to order 10 paints, only 3 of which can be contrast. Even if you use up 2 slots to add primer and varnish for contrast, you still order double the amount of paint you don't really need unless you're new to hobby or dog ate your existing paint stash. As already noted, the savings would need to be huge to even compete with independent stores. Why they couldn't just make new contrast Paint+Build sets instead?

 Irbis wrote:
I don't get what is the point of Corvus Black. Don't they already make multiple other black paints?

The existing black Base paint is a neutral/cool black. This looks to be a "warm" black with a faint tint of brown to it? I dunno I didn't buy any of these colours when FW was making them. Or maybe that's just because it has green either size of the swatch, it might just be a very dark grey.

After the talk about GW replacing models if their primer gunks them up, I have a pot of Celestra Grey - used in paint schemes online for *everything* - and it's crap ever since I opened it. It's part liquid, part chunks of...medium and pigment? Ranking from tiny to large, you can grind them into a homogenous state with a finger or very stiff brush, but it's impossible to get an even finish thanks to tiny particles in there.

Should I actually contact GW for such a thing? I could attach pics of the crap right out of the pot. Feels a bit overkill to have them post a new one from the UK, but I don't feel like paying another 3.30€ to my FLGS when I need a ton to buy new paints, anyway.

PS: my Chardon Granite finally dried out, nooo.

Here in Europe If i'd bought a dud paint (or mini) from a store i'd take it back there rather than going to GW direct since it's the store that's responsible

(In the US it's the manufacturer)

but if the store won't help GW probably would

For all their faults as a company, GW has always had a solid customer service/return record.

GW will replace the pot of paint if the store does not have a suitable replacement. I.E. if all of the same color are botched. If it’s part of a model, they will ask for the specific part number now that was missing or damaged. A few months back I got a dark elf blood bowl team which one arm was missing off the sprue, I had to send a copy of the receipt from the shop and a picture of the box upc to them, but they did send that individual piece.

Bought either from my FLGS or Wayland, can't remember. Otherwise I would've taken it back to the store.

I got a replacement Warboss 'cause his necklace and the horn from his bloodletter trophy was snapped, no proof of purchase needed or anything. To be fair, though, the Battleforce box looked like someone stepped on it, I felt a complaint was reasonable.

With paint it could be a myriad of reasons why it's bad, including storage, but that must be some manufacturing misshap, it's neither dry nor does it have that "medium and pigment seperated" look, there's simply millions of pieces of gunk inside. I guess it's worth a try, because no amount of "wrong" storage would ever do that (but I literally have AK heavy chipping medium that completely evaporated in the same time that the "worn effects" medium bought with hasn't even a tiny bit of build-up dried to the lid, so paint stuff is always...curious ).

So I'm going to buy a pot later today so I can finally copy the kouzes and contact GW, too.

 kestral wrote:
Any word on how this will work with Reaper Bones - my major speed painting area? Will the spray adhere ok to the Bonesium?

Bones do not need priming, etc. etc.

Main concern would be the solvent used in the spray, causing tackiness.

Sacrifice a sprue, or check on the Reaper forums.

 Irbis wrote:
I don't get what is the point of Corvus Black. Don't they already make multiple other black paints?

This pic from the Battle Bunnies blog is a Titan shoulderpad painted in Corvus Black:

Is there a good post of imgur Instagram etc of the preview models they had at warhammer fest?
I am trying to determine which paints to get but want to see better quality photos than the ones I've been finding of the all the sample models in one or two photos.

Thanks!

Just an aside, my FLGS just received a new paint rack from GW today. Same as the old one, but it’s in preparation for the new paint on the 15th.

Whats funny is the last few weeks they haven’t been able to get paints to fill the holes on the shelf.

 Ghaz wrote:

Spoiler:

So... I have a ton of Death Guard I bought when 40k rereleased this time. They're built, but sitting unloved and unpainted in a box at the moment.
Are any of those Contrast paints anything like the Death Guard green scheme? The names are no use whatsoever for me to figure it out.

shank911 wrote:Is there a good post of imgur Instagram etc of the preview models they had at warhammer fest?
I am trying to determine which paints to get but want to see better quality photos than the ones I've been finding of the all the sample models in one or two photos.

Thanks!

Gimgamgoo wrote:So... I have a ton of Death Guard I bought when 40k rereleased this time. They're built, but sitting unloved and unpainted in a box at the moment.
Are any of those Contrast paints anything like the Death Guard green scheme? The names are no use whatsoever for me to figure it out.

Garro has decent pictures of the models at the show up close, which should help picking colours:
https://www.facebook.com/Garro30k/photos/a.1075995342421061/2314041761949740/?type=3&theater

 Theophony wrote:
Just an aside, my FLGS just received a new paint rack from GW today. Same as the old one, but it’s in preparation for the new paint on the 15th.

Whats funny is the last few weeks they haven’t been able to get paints to fill the holes on the shelf.

Same as old or as current? We got one as well but it’s only halfish as wide as the current ones.

 Redemption wrote:

shank911 wrote:Is there a good post of imgur Instagram etc of the preview models they had at warhammer fest?
I am trying to determine which paints to get but want to see better quality photos than the ones I've been finding of the all the sample models in one or two photos.

Thanks!

Gimgamgoo wrote:So... I have a ton of Death Guard I bought when 40k rereleased this time. They're built, but sitting unloved and unpainted in a box at the moment.
Are any of those Contrast paints anything like the Death Guard green scheme? The names are no use whatsoever for me to figure it out.

Garro has decent pictures of the models at the show up close, which should help picking colours:
https://www.facebook.com/Garro30k/photos/a.1075995342421061/2314041761949740/?type=3&theater

Thanks for that. Those pics seem far better than the swatch GW produced. I wonder how much tidy up those SM's had, as there seems to be little patchiness except on the yellow. I expected them to be patchier.

AduroT wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Just an aside, my FLGS just received a new paint rack from GW today. Same as the old one, but it’s in preparation for the new paint on the 15th.

Whats funny is the last few weeks they haven’t been able to get paints to fill the holes on the shelf.

Same as old or as current? We got one as well but it’s only halfish as wide as the current ones.

One of my local stores went from the old paint rack (similar to the one seen HERE) to the current paint rack (seen HERE) back in March. With them being primarily a comic shop with no room for in-store gaming I thought it was an odd move. It may have been something GW required of those who carry their paint line.

Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Redemption wrote:

shank911 wrote:Is there a good post of imgur Instagram etc of the preview models they had at warhammer fest?
I am trying to determine which paints to get but want to see better quality photos than the ones I've been finding of the all the sample models in one or two photos.

Thanks!

Gimgamgoo wrote:So... I have a ton of Death Guard I bought when 40k rereleased this time. They're built, but sitting unloved and unpainted in a box at the moment.
Are any of those Contrast paints anything like the Death Guard green scheme? The names are no use whatsoever for me to figure it out.

Garro has decent pictures of the models at the show up close, which should help picking colours:
https://www.facebook.com/Garro30k/photos/a.1075995342421061/2314041761949740/?type=3&theater

Thanks for that. Those pics seem far better than the swatch GW produced. I wonder how much tidy up those SM's had, as there seems to be little patchiness except on the yellow. I expected them to be patchier.

You'll probably see better pics from GW once the paints go up on pre-order this weekend, if not sooner.

 AduroT wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Just an aside, my FLGS just received a new paint rack from GW today. Same as the old one, but it’s in preparation for the new paint on the 15th.

Whats funny is the last few weeks they haven’t been able to get paints to fill the holes on the shelf.

Same as old or as current? We got one as well but it’s only halfish as wide as the current ones.

Same as current one. Adjustable shelves, shelves on the sides for accessories and such.

I hey, I just remembered I happened to have a picture of the new rack because it was sitting next to the new releases. So yeah, what we have a set up like this, though we arranged the accessory racks differently;



And then the new one looks like this, seen to the right of the terrain kits;



Gonna be a trick to get it to fit into the available space still though.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Spoiler:

So... I have a ton of Death Guard I bought when 40k rereleased this time. They're built, but sitting unloved and unpainted in a box at the moment.
Are any of those Contrast paints anything like the Death Guard green scheme? The names are no use whatsoever for me to figure it out.

There’s an example of a Death Guard plague marine painted with only contrast paints (after the Ultra) in the top video here: https://citadelcolour.com/playlist/6039187301001/6038117442001

 Theophony wrote:
GW will replace the pot of paint if the store does not have a suitable replacement. I.E. if all of the same color are botched. If it’s part of a model, they will ask for the specific part number now that was missing or damaged. A few months back I got a dark elf blood bowl team which one arm was missing off the sprue, I had to send a copy of the receipt from the shop and a picture of the box upc to them, but they did send that individual piece.

That was strict. For me it's been no questions asked. Well last time customer rep asked did I need one or two sprues of rohan warriors to replace my broken one from pelennor's field box Box only has one...Didn't try to sneak in free sprue.

Warhammer TV will have 'Painting with Contrast' both Wednesday and Friday at 4 pm BST:




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Contrast paint applied over a Rhino:

So I had a quick play with these at UK Games Expo. I'm the sort of crap painter they's supposedly aimed at and my initial response is: hmm.

On the one hand, they're magic. Laying down a single coat and getting a wash and highlight effect is pretty neat. But there are drawbacks. You need to work it more carefully than a wash because it will pool, or sit unevenly on flat surfaces. You have to be very careful how much is on your brush and it's not immediately obvious how much that should be. Painting with a lightly loaded brush gives a very different effect to a heavily loaded one (even once you clean up the pooling). Getting consistency isn't that easy*

Second issue is the colour, maybe it's just me but the green shading looks kinda weird on green power armor. I mean, there's a reason most GW paint guides have you do power armour by either pin-washing with Agrax/Nuln oil, or all over wash and neaten up. Rather than using the green or blue washes.

Lastly: cleaning up mistakes really is difficult. You need to wait for it to dry (taking longer than normal paints) then redo the white/grey, then the contrast. And y'know, it's slippy! Harder to control it than normal paints. As a beginner that's a huge drawback. I can see myself using it as a base layer for the main model colour then doing the rest of the model with regular paints but I'm not sure I'd want to try painting everything that way. That said I was demoing with a thrashed GW medium shade brush so it's possible this is less of an issue when using a decent brush.

*I mean, it's easy if you know what you're doing but you can't just slap it on.

What's the over/under on the amount of time before a fully shoddy looking "pro painted" with Contrast Paints army shows up on eBay for a daft price?

I still think these are going to be a useful tool in the box rather than an answer in themselves. As many have said the overall results look so difficult to control and generally inconsistent. And vehicles? As most expected that Rhino just looks poor.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Irbis wrote:
I don't get what is the point of Corvus Black. Don't they already make multiple other black paints?

The existing black Base paint is a neutral/cool black. This looks to be a "warm" black with a faint tint of brown to it? I dunno I didn't buy any of these colours when FW was making them. Or maybe that's just because it has green either size of the swatch, it might just be a very dark grey.

It's an extremely dark charcoal grey, so dark it looks black next to most other colors. Because it looks black you can use it as black, and then use a dark wash to add "blacker" areas in shadows and recesses to add a surprising amount of depth to a solid black armour like deathwatch would have.

-frank

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
What's the over/under on the amount of time before a fully shoddy looking "pro painted" with Contrast Paints army shows up on eBay for a daft price?

I still think these are going to be a useful tool in the box rather than an answer in themselves. As many have said the overall results look so difficult to control and generally inconsistent. And vehicles? As most expected that Rhino just looks poor.

Please. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was one or two up there already. Someone already retried to jock some of the pots they stole from the event for stupid prices…