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I'm definitely grabbing some to test out on my large unpainted slaanesh army

Tried to do a Battle Ready Set in the US. :(

New contrast base colors bottles both out of stock.
Wraithbone
Gray Seer

Contrast paints out of stock:
White
Darkoath Flesh
Black Templar

Contrast paints not available:
Skeleton
Iyanden Yellow
Gryph-Hound Orange
Blood Angel Red
Flesh Tearer Red
Magos Purple
Aethermatic Blue
Plaguebearer Flesh
Warp Lightning
Ork Flesh
Wyldwood
Guilliman Flesh
Snakebite Leather
Basillicum Grey

So 19 out of 36 colors not available on the first day to order. Perhaps they should have delayed the release until they actually had stuff in stock.
The line is definitely NOT "Battle Ready". Not much point in ordering if I can't get the colors I actually want.

T

Does anyone know if Vallejo do a brush primer in the same colour as the new GW spray cans? I have a bunch of reaper bones to do, and don't want to risk spraying them with an unknown rattle can, but equally don't want to spend a chunk on a primer shade I can get cheaper in as good quality.

And with the correct number of Battle Ready paints in the cart its not giving any discount...

T

Edit: Retributor Armour is excluded from the eligible Base colors but all of the other metallics are fine.

timd wrote:
And with the correct number of Battle Ready paints in the cart its not giving any discount...

T

Which paints are you trying to get, and are they all in the list that was in the Terms and Conditions part (and are you on the US site)?

Anyway, yeah, GW failed big time on meeting demand for this product. I'm lucky, after seeing things already going out of stock on the UK preorders, I was at my computer at 12PM refreshing the page until they were up on the US site and grabbed the stuff I wanted.

Made it work by taking out the Retributor Armour and putting in another metallic.

The discount is 13%.

I will be waiting until I can actually get the colors I want, at a better discount.

T

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

timd wrote:
And with the correct number of Battle Ready paints in the cart its not giving any discount...

T

Which paints are you trying to get, and are they all in the list that was in the Terms and Conditions part (and are you on the US site)?

Anyway, yeah, GW failed big time on meeting demand for this product. I'm lucky, after seeing things already going out of stock on the UK preorders, I was at my computer at 12PM refreshing the page until they were up on the US site and grabbed the stuff I wanted.

Man am I happy I gave a list to my FLGS to hold all the stuff I wanted in the new range last week(I wanted about half the Constrast paints and both sprays, along with a few layers). He said he'd be getting a good number in and would set the stuff on my list aside. Since I won't be able to get there on release day due to work, I'm glad I did or there might be nothing to pick up.

I knew this was going to be popular, but not nearly to this extent.

as others noted, this stuff won't just be of use to GW game players but is proably a gamer changer for everything else. folks wanting to paint d&d minis etc will be intreasted in this

 zend wrote:
Any examples of the white contrast paint?

I have no pics to show this but I will say this. Apothecary White against Gray Seer basically does nothing, against Wraithbone you get some gray shadowing. Highlight with some White Scars and you should be golden.

Gray Seer makes a great basecoat for Space Sharks imo.

Ultramarines Blue looks...weird

I went and tried the Contrast paints prior to going to work. I only had a few minutes to try, but I was decently pleased with the results. I was a little rushed, so results weren't ideal, but most of what I got was quite good. The big flat areas definitely need a little more care. But overall, quite good. I am not liking Black Templar as much as I thought I would. I will probably be mixing Contrast and regular paints. Likely using Eshin Grey and Leadbelcher for my boltguns/weapons and coat the entire item in Nuln Oil. Otherwise, most everything else looked good.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I went and tried the Contrast paints prior to going to work. I only had a few minutes to try, but I was decently pleased with the results. I was a little rushed, so results weren't ideal, but most of what I got was quite good. The big flat areas definitely need a little more care. But overall, quite good. I am not liking Black Templar as much as I thought I would. I will probably be mixing Contrast and regular paints. Likely using Eshin Grey and Leadbelcher for my boltguns/weapons and coat the entire item in Nuln Oil. Otherwise, most everything else looked good.

I've seen some examples of the black that look prety good and others that look awful. The black seems to needs to be played with more when you apply it. To much and the effect is lost, to little the effect looks bad. It also really needs a edge highlight to make the black pop at the end. It doesn't feel as rooty tooty point and shooty to apply like the other colours.

I think the being thing about the black for alot of people, will be it's use as a panel liner on tanks. It doesn't seem as fussy when used this way.

 Lockark wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I went and tried the Contrast paints prior to going to work. I only had a few minutes to try, but I was decently pleased with the results. I was a little rushed, so results weren't ideal, but most of what I got was quite good. The big flat areas definitely need a little more care. But overall, quite good. I am not liking Black Templar as much as I thought I would. I will probably be mixing Contrast and regular paints. Likely using Eshin Grey and Leadbelcher for my boltguns/weapons and coat the entire item in Nuln Oil. Otherwise, most everything else looked good.

I've seen some examples of the black that look prety good and others that look awful. The black seems to needs to be played with more when you apply it. To much and the effect is lost, to little the effect looks bad. It also really needs a edge highlight to make the black pop at the end. It doesn't feel as rooty tooty point and shooty to apply like the other colours.

I think the being thing about the black for alot of people, will be it's use as a panel liner on tanks. It doesn't seem as fussy when used this way.

It just went on way too light for my liking. It could be that the pot needed more shaking. I don't know. I will get a pot, but I won't be heartbroken if I have to do something different for my black than that. The Blood Angels Red seemed like it was a little too orange, but not bad.

If Black Templar functions like it was for me, it might work really well for darkening jet engines and whatnot. I only had very limited play time with it. And a second coat likely would solve the issue.

BomBomHotdog wrote:

 zend wrote:
Any examples of the white contrast paint?

I have no pics to show this but I will say this. Apothecary White against Gray Seer basically does nothing, against Wraithbone you get some gray shadowing. Highlight with some White Scars and you should be golden

I can second this, against Grey Seer it's all but invisible and with Wraithbone you can see it, but it doesn't look particularly "white" there. I think it'd work best against a pure white basecoat.

Tested some out yesterday in store and the staff gave a good bit of advice on these paints and thats shake them really really well before use, something to do with the large amout of pigment in them.
As to results they are quick and will be another paint in the arsenal. They do not (to me) paint in the same way as others and flow differently than the current paints so application will be different than bases and even washes, over all i like them.

As to shortages there's potentially millions of hobbyists around the world and a lot of them (majority?) Will be looking/buying these at release but no one really knows how many people paint minitures from various systems and company's as i can see those using mantic/hoards etc wanting to try these as well. Give it a couple of weeks and the sales level will stabilize.

I found this really useful, credit to The Hairy Gamers on Facebook (I think).

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
I found this really useful, credit to The Hairy Gamers on Facebook (I think).

Spoiler:

Ty for sharing that, it think this will be very very useful and save a lot of experimentation.

I'm curious how these would look applied over a watered down nuln oil, sort of a pre shading, I'll play with that later.

Wow seeing those on the bases is actually is super helpful for picking my army colors!

Anyone think that maybe the black templar contrast would look better with a second coat? I'm really torn right now on whether or not to buy it or just keep use abbadon black for my black robes on the gloomspite gitz. (My original intention was to do this entire army in contrast paints, even to the point of the using the grey for non-metalic metal effects)

The Corax White stuff *does* look a bit flatter with less contrast - or is that just my phone screen plus sunlight? But it really looks like the special primers make the paint stick less to raised edges and stuff. So maybe a coat of varnish after priming with non-Contrast primers or after zenithal lighting would actually improve the experimentations we've seen on youtube so far.

I really should've web ordered from the GW site yesterday morning. I get the feeling that my independent store will get nothing at all at first and the GWs I'm closest to tend to be picked clean by the regulars by the time I get there.

Seeing that Carnosaurus makes me want to just knock out all the Sauri and Skinks I have from the old 5th ed starter (and a failed attempt to muster the willpower to resculpt weedy dudes into monstrous BB linesauriers) as a practice run. Maybe add a SC (minus Carni) and gift it all to my nephews to build dioramas with their Lego castles and stuff. I might actually build and paint the cavalry instead of literally throwing them away if I had to spend more than 5 minutes on each...they're so ugly even the GW SC page doesn't show them outside the group picture!

I know a fair few of us wondered about these over metallic colours, so ウォーハンマーストア横浜 on facebook posted these over leadbelcher

I wonder what red/orange that is bottom left that would be good for the Warcry Iron Golems. It might even be Gore Grunta Fur?

The "base chart" is super useful indeed, much better than space marine backpack pictures that were used on Citadel Paint app for the main range.

I can instantly see some colours that are must-have. Gryph-charger grey matches Shadespire boards perfectly and Space Wolves grey looks awesome for basing as well. Surprisingly, Skeleton horde looks better on Grey seer than Wraithbone undercoat.

This is what Darren Latham can do with contrast.


Edit. Here I see the text from his blog.

Hi all, With the release of the new Citadel contrast paints I thought it would be a great opportunity to re visit painting non metallic metals (nmm).
I wanted to try out the new contrast colours and apply them to this technique to see what results I could achieve.
With this in mind I picked a suitable miniature which was a Stormcast Liberator and undercoated it with the new wraithbone spray.
All contrast paints where thinned with the new contrast medium during this process.
Here are the stages I did when painting-

1. Wraithbone spray
2. Nazdreg yellow
3. Snakebite leather
4. Fyreslayer flesh
5. Cygor brown
6. Black templar
7. Iyanden yellow glaze all over
8. Wraithbone base paint highlight
9. Pure white highlight

You can see that most of the technique involves a lot of glazing the colours over each other. Rather than highlighting in stages as you would normally paint this involves working backwards essentially. So starting with larger areas of lighter colours and then shading down with less paint.
As with all nmm painting the real trick is when you add those final white highlights and hot spots to trick the eye.
I’m pretty happy with the test result and compared to my other nmm painting it was much quicker although a little messier if I’m honest but I’m sure with more practice with the paints this will improve.
Cheers! Daz

Whoa, remember just because pro painters can use them like that doesn't mean they're any good! Or so I got told a few pages back..

I think contrast is going to be something where you need a just after application shot as well as the final dried version as how much you put on seems so significant

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:


I know a fair few of us wondered about these over metallic colours, so ウォーハンマーストア横浜 on facebook posted these over leadbelcher

What's the green? It looks perfect for Alpha Legion

I tried them out yesterday and I managed to get enough time to play around with them (about an hour and a half). Tried out some glazing and blending on the palette and on the model I used and was pretty happy with the results.

For panel areas you do need to babysit the paint so it settles correctly and I did two coats instead of one to manage the paint and increase the intensity when I was done with the first coat. I do like how well the paint can be tinted, even when putting light over dark colours, which they say not to do. I did that on the base and the hammer and got a pretty pleasing result on my Sequitor test model.

The high pigmentation has serious drawbacks in that the paint separates like mad in the pot and in some cases on the palette. I realise all paints separate but it happens in almost a minute in some cases.

Here's what I managed to do in between chat and having to stand because there were no chairs in the shop to help brace myself (the photos are larger in the gallery):

BomBomHotdog wrote:

 zend wrote:
Any examples of the white contrast paint?

I have no pics to show this but I will say this. Apothecary White against Gray Seer basically does nothing, against Wraithbone you get some gray shadowing. Highlight with some White Scars and you should be golden.

Gray Seer makes a great basecoat for Space Sharks imo.

Ultramarines Blue looks...weird

BOLS did a video with both Apothecary White and Talassar Blue on Wraithbone white.

Green looks like Terradon Turquoise
Gold looks like Iyandean Yellow
The top-left looks like maybe Snakebite Leather
Bottom left might be Gore grunta. There's a surprising amount of Browns.
Blue is Talasar Blue (hello Tsons)

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

Spoiler:

I know a fair few of us wondered about these over metallic colours, so ウォーハンマーストア横浜 on facebook posted these over leadbelcher

I was just wondering about that yesterday as well. Pete the Wargamer has a video as well on the subject but using an airbrush and contrast paint. I don't know why but I was expecting more of a metallic effect. I was somewhat unrealistically hoping that you could get a metallic tinge HH UM paint scheme in just two steps (silver primer, contrast base coat) as opposed to using a metallic paint with subsequent highlights and washes.

So people complain paint is useless, bad etc. Then it's sold out in droves and people complain about that. If they didn't sold likely would hear "told it's bad". Gw can't win

Seems to be doing pretty well. Good thing i'll have month holiday in japan so lack of stock is not a worry for me.

Couple intnresting colours on the base pictures so i'll store those for future use. Def giving some a try