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I gave them a try at the weekend as I know have them all except for Black. Managed to knock up 6 ETB Pox Walkers within about 4 and a half hours (a bit of which was spent cleaning an entirely pot of knocked over contrast). Really impressed with the results for the time spent. Not the fastest but I am a very slow painter. Once my black arrives will give some Death Guard a try.

 BrookM wrote:
I'm a bit miffed that a lot of the Contrast is still sold out on the GW site, was hoping to make use of their paint bundle deal before it ends, but alas.

If you have a GW shop, they actually are doing it in stores as well.

Tried out the red and yellow, as they're shades not covered by Army Painter Quickshades, and I'm sold.




https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/777075.page

Along with just slopping them on, they work quite well for more controlled touch-ups as well. Very impressed with just how good they are.

They won't completely replace Quickshades for me, as I like the control of the less opaque pigments in most of the Quickshades, but they're certainly fun.

I actually wonder if a quickshade subsequent pass solves two things. Accentuate the recesses more and protects being a polyurethane layer on top. Might be interesting to see them together

 BrookM wrote:
I'm a bit miffed that a lot of the Contrast is still sold out on the GW site, was hoping to make use of their paint bundle deal before it ends, but alas.

Just get the paints you want from element games instead. Comparatively you save about £4 on the price, and that covers all the layer paints too if you don't want 4 base paints.

Firestorm games also has a lot of contrast paint in stock as well - I think more than Element games last I checked.

I dont think I've used them before... will have to check them out. I didnt really need any new paints anyway, but I figured I'd do the bundle to take advantage of the former forge world colours, and the same amount of products on EG was cheaper so I just ordered em.

I've always found Firestorm to be very good and reliable. Discount isn't always as high as Element/Wayland but the service is normally faster and on many things the discount difference isn't that huge anyway.

 PurpleEcho wrote:


My one issue with them is with the initial reason they were invented. How much real world time will they save me? For the time saved in applying the contrast paints because of the very nature of the paint you often have to go back to retouch over areas with the original basecoat and this just results in a feeling of "Is this saving me a huge chunk of time?" I mean sure you could slap contrast on and not care

This is why I think the best option is just a single contrast layer of the main colour followed by painting the rest with regular paints (plus maybe Contrast on the bits hard to get right otherwise: faces and cloaks come to mind). This is only faster if you already wash different parts of the mini in different shades though. If you're the type to just do base colours plus a single all-over wash it's probably no quicker.

Did half of War of the Ring the weekend, just painting a single contrast colour on each over Wraithbone. Will add in some details but mostly want them to look like coloured game pieces rather than mins (for usability). Not much quicker than just a wash over a spray primer, but at least I didn't have to buy six different spray primers. And got more choice on colour. And it does look *a bit* better. You get some minor highlighting around the raised areas.

Has anyone tried Contrast over a Vallejo liquid metal base? With the stronger metals it could make the effect better?

Has GW given any indication as to when Contrast paints will be getting a restock?

Many of the to be expected popular colors are OOS and have been since...the start?

 Alpharius wrote:
Has GW given any indication as to when Contrast paints will be getting a restock?

Many of the to be expected popular colors are OOS and have been since...the start?

Obviously not enough people have asked, as the skitari kept asking and got a transport out of it. Flood them with requests .

I called my local GW and they still have a ton of stock. Including the seemingly highly sought Black Templar Black.

All of the stores got sent an excess of stock after seeing how fast the paint sold out online during the preorder, I was told that by the guy that runs my local GW. That's currently the place to go and get paint that are out of stock online

 Alpharius wrote:
Has GW given any indication as to when Contrast paints will be getting a restock?

Many of the to be expected popular colors are OOS and have been since...the start?

Yup, 19 out of 36 contrast item unavailable or out of stock on the first day of pre-orders when I tried to order.


This seems to be the answer to where all the paint went:

 Jeansicus wrote:
All of the stores got sent an excess of stock after seeing how fast the paint sold out online during the preorder, I was told that by the guy that runs my local GW. That's currently the place to go and get paint that are out of stock online

My local GW received new paints yesterday, but even they didn't get all of them (they're still out of Black templar, apothecary white, and Flesh tearer red).
So GW stores are still the best place to get them atm, but call ahead just in case.

I gave in last night and bought the bundle from element games
Estimated arrival is around 10th July

I'm completely fine with waiting though
I have a batch of 44 cultists I'm finishing the old fashioned way

Then i can sit and test these contrasts out on various undercoats

I'm really leaning towards a gold undercoat and a blood angel red contrast paint over for my World Eaters/Crimson Slaughter *dependent on what codex I want to play at the time

fresus wrote:
My local GW received new paints yesterday, but even they didn't get all of them (they're still out of Black templar, apothecary white, and Flesh tearer red).
So GW stores are still the best place to get them atm, but call ahead just in case.

Black Templar has been out of stock at my local GW since release day. It'll be a while before the hype dies down and product ships normally.

Yeah going out of stock on this was kinda expected, esp right now when everyone wants them at the same time so its putting far more strain on the production side. Give it a few months and the panic will settle down as people start working with them. It might last a little longer because the method of application tends to use paint up faster than regular paints that you'd always water down. Plus there's likely way more beginners doing beginner mistakes and experimenting with them.

Annoyingly I've had Black Templar on order from Wayland Games for weeks now. I pre ordered it along with some other colours. Got the others but Black Templar is still out of stock.

 dan2026 wrote:
Wayland Games

Good luck.

I can't find a pot of wraithbone to save my life. I'm beginning to consider just using grey seer as the base for my army instead lol.

JSG wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Wayland Games

Good luck.

They have a bad reputation?
Honestly I have never had any trouble.

 dan2026 wrote:

JSG wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Wayland Games

Good luck.

They have a bad reputation?
Honestly I have never had any trouble.

Wayland are reliable, but they have a reputation for being somewhat on the slower side.

Partly its a legacy issue because their old store didn't show accurate stock levels so you could order something "in stock" and find yourself waiting 2 weeks because it was actually out of stock and not manually updated (likely a split between online and store sales). This setup a reputation that they've not lost, even though their current store has accurate stock displays. I also think that being a big stock turnover they sometimes hit the limit on what they can order from some distributors/suppliers in a given week, so again that can sometimes extend the delivery time.

It's more a frustration esp in these days where we are used to Amazon dropping stuff off the next day (gone is the old "please leave at least 14 days for delivery" days of mail order).

The problem I have with Wayland is communication when something is out of stock.

Most other websites I order from for hobby supplies give an ETA on delivery/dispatch.

Wayland you still have to ticket them/phone.

BUT

They are prepared to split orders for delivery you just have to message them asking so.

Sometimes I don't mind waiting - like with ElementGames I've just emailed them to ask them please don't dispatch my contrast paints until you have everything

I ordered the element games bundle within 5 minutes and still waiting for my black Templar. Local GW has been out since launch day as well. Manage to order from Firestorm and was shipped by Royal Mail 24 postage (turns out 1st class) on Tuesday but frustratingly still not arrived.

For what it's worth I have checked with multiple hobby shops in my area and they are all stating that they are getting their contrast restocked today, Friday the 28th.

So you may want to check back with your local store if you have one. I live on the US West Coast.

Wayland are a good supplier but you do have to take into account how they go about their orders. In recent times, so long as you don't order something as "restock expected", the orders have been dealt within days and you're looking at delivery within a week.

The preorders are usually good too and I've had confirmation even a day before a release date. This is the only time I've been waiting on a preorder, and quite forgiving, save that I mostly preordered a single contrast yellow simply to get free p&p on the order. Iyanden Yellow is now back in stock on the GW site, so I'm going to assume we can expect to see a result soon...

I have just ordered a bunch of contrast paints from dark sphere. Seems the have a decent stock on a number of paints. Be worth checking out.

My FLGS got everything in on release day except the black and Darkoath Flesh for some reason. Got the latter but the black is still MIA.

I know this baby is all the way down the second page, but I found this video very interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU0rc0EOOys