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Well, it's clearly on the "thanks, but no thanks" range for me. I'll either proxy it or not bother.

 aracersss wrote:
well to be fair ... It comes on a time where core troops borderline the 50-60$ mark nowadays compare to past iterations. The current hammerhead got abvsorved into the skyray kit, in a similar fashion to the baneblade, and due to the time it went to 60$. Given currect inflation, 75$ sounds about the normal trend for dual/multi build vehicle kits

GW still double their profit annually, that mean they will continue to push the price higher and higher to gain more profit.

Haven’t bought anything gw apart from a few copies of conquest mag when it came out but is it wrong to want to build a Catachan river borne assault force with these things.

 xKillGorex wrote:
Haven’t bought anything gw apart from a few copies of conquest mag when it came out but is it wrong to want to build a Catachan river borne assault force with these things.

Not until you look at the old plastic Catachan models and remember how their shoulders look.

 Albertorius wrote:
Well, it's clearly on the "thanks, but no thanks" range for me. I'll either proxy it or not bother.

Yeah, if it’s in the $75 range (I’d pay up to $50), I’ll bow out as well, which is a shame as I could have gone for 2-3 of them.

So it looks like the Dunerider has a double Broad-Spectrum Data Tether and 4 cognis heavy stubbers (although the latter was obvious from the model). I wonder if being doubled means it has an increased range of the tether or perhaps a higher leadership bonus (or both?)

Any sign of a similar thing for the 'battle tank' variant?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Any sign of a similar thing for the 'battle tank' variant?

Not yet, but I'm sure we'll be seeing more soon. One thing the battle tank probably has is the broad spectrum data tethers as well, which is good. Means it can use the +2 BS strat.

The fact that they didnt call the BDT something else than "2 bdt" has me confused. If it had another name, then i would expect some new rules, as it stands, BDT dont stack, so having 2 on the same model wouldnt do anything new.

Now this is my wishful thinking typing :

Maybe this preview actually is a rules preview formulated in a weird way to fake us out. Maybe (emphasis on the maybe and the wishful thinking) the disembarcation ramp actually was an ability that let us disembark after moving the transport? Maybe the ammo crates let us use them up to double shoot with the stubbers (4 charges per game?) Maybe the directional fins let us do something special that i cant think of right now.

Realistically, this article was just a teast to keep us interested while they spoil non-admech apocalypse factions everyday

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/06/21/rules-preview-battle-tanks-and-troop-transportsgw-homepage-post-3/

Rules Preview

The Dunerider is a Dedicated Transport


Disintegrator's setup:
Prow mount:

The primary gun on the Disintegrator:

Can swap to:


WE GOT A MORTAR BOTS!
Skorpius Disintegrator is a Heavy Support choice and has a point higher Toughness than the Dunerider.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The Dunerider is a Dedicated Transport

Spoiler:

Disintegrator's setup:
Prow mount:

Spoiler:

The primary gun on the Disintegrator:

Spoiler:

Can swap to:

Spoiler:

WE GOT A MORTAR BOTS!
Skorpius Disintegrator is a Heavy Support choice and has a point higher Toughness than the Dunerider.

Rules preview dont show ALL rules,right? because the no invuln save feels off for an admech model

I mean ... It's a tank. It seems fitting w/o one compare to the rest

I mean, the Ironstriders don't have Invulnerable saves...but I'd assume there's a few things we haven't seen yet.

The part I'm curious about is if we're going to see a new AdMech book this year that addresses some "known issues" and brings in the new units.

There's been rumblings of an Alpha Primus HQ choice for a long time for Skitarii(and for the record, I don't think the Blackstone Fortress guy is a Skitarii anymore) to be able to get fielded as a singular army.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I mean, the Ironstriders don't have Invulnerable saves...but I'd assume there's a few things we haven't seen yet.

The part I'm curious about is if we're going to see a new AdMech book this year that addresses some "known issues" and brings in the new units.

There's been rumblings of an Alpha Primus HQ choice for a long time for Skitarii(and for the record, I don't think the Blackstone Fortress guy is a Skitarii anymore) to be able to get fielded as a singular army.

Every unit in the codex (apart from basic servitors) have an invuln save, 6+ or better

aracersss wrote:

I mean ... It's a tank. It seems fitting w/o one compare to the rest

Dunecrawlers are most definitly a tank and have a 5+ invuln

VladimirHerzog wrote:


Dunecrawlers are most definitly a tank and have a 5+ invuln

No, they're walkers.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I mean, the Ironstriders don't have Invulnerable saves...but I'd assume there's a few things we haven't seen yet.

The part I'm curious about is if we're going to see a new AdMech book this year that addresses some "known issues" and brings in the new units.

There's been rumblings of an Alpha Primus HQ choice for a long time for Skitarii(and for the record, I don't think the Blackstone Fortress guy is a Skitarii anymore) to be able to get fielded as a singular army.

Everything in AdMech bar the Onager Dunecrawler (which have their force field) have the 6+ Biotic invun save, in this case it makes sense since this isn't a walker or humanoid robot with bionic bits

 Crimson wrote:

VladimirHerzog wrote:


Dunecrawlers are most definitly a tank and have a 5+ invuln

No, they're walkers.

a tank on legs is still a tank in my eyes. plus its invuln comes from a forcefield, no reason for admech not to kit out other vehicles with them.

Agamembar wrote:

Everything in AdMech bar the Onager Dunecrawler (which have their force field) have the 6+ Biotic invun save, in this case it makes sense since this isn't a walker or humanoid robot with bionic bits

Yeah, I should have clarified a bit more.

The Ironstriders have the Bionics save but not an actual Force Field.

Quite taken with the Tank.

Lots of shots, and definitely fills something of a gap in the arsenal.

Wow, the Repulsor is breathtakingly awful. Absolute trash.

Whereas, both variations of the Skorpius look pretty awesome. The MBT version is crazy good. And the transport isn't half-bad. I wish it had the ability to take Phosphor Blasters. Beggars can't be choosers. Still does its job well enough. But man, the MBT is going to be sweet. Mortars and missiles!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Wow, the Repulsor is breathtakingly awful. Absolute trash.

Whereas, both variations of the Skorpius look pretty awesome. The MBT version is crazy good. And the transport isn't half-bad. I wish it had the ability to take Phosphor Blasters. Beggars can't be choosers. Still does its job well enough. But man, the MBT is going to be sweet. Mortars and missiles!

The repulsor also doesnt cost much more than a normal repulsor and didnt show all rules yet, atm it look good.

Only thing I dont like is that the dunerider can only carry 10, while being bigger than a Rhino and skitarii being smaller than Space Marines.

Repulsor looks pretty decent to me. Up to four s10 shots, which do a minimum of 3 damage for each unsaved wound.

If you’re going pure Primaris, it definitely brings the pain.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Repulsor looks pretty decent to me. Up to four s10 shots, which do a minimum of 3 damage for each unsaved wound.

If you’re going pure Primaris, it definitely brings the pain.

More like gets shot off the board turn one. And the regular Repulsor can have four S9 shots and more transport capacity.

Also, what is really hilarious is that the "Heavy" Laser Destroyer is demonstrably less heavy than the regular Laser Destroyer.

Well, if we’re assuming any given unit won’t survive the first player turn, isn’t everything bobbins?

 0XFallen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Wow, the Repulsor is breathtakingly awful. Absolute trash.

Whereas, both variations of the Skorpius look pretty awesome. The MBT version is crazy good. And the transport isn't half-bad. I wish it had the ability to take Phosphor Blasters. Beggars can't be choosers. Still does its job well enough. But man, the MBT is going to be sweet. Mortars and missiles!

The repulsor also doesnt cost much more than a normal repulsor and didnt show all rules yet, atm it look good.

Only thing I dont like is that the dunerider can only carry 10, while being bigger than a Rhino and skitarii being smaller than Space Marines.

No transport capacity in the game is based on relative sizes of models.

Voss wrote:

 0XFallen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Wow, the Repulsor is breathtakingly awful. Absolute trash.

Whereas, both variations of the Skorpius look pretty awesome. The MBT version is crazy good. And the transport isn't half-bad. I wish it had the ability to take Phosphor Blasters. Beggars can't be choosers. Still does its job well enough. But man, the MBT is going to be sweet. Mortars and missiles!

The repulsor also doesnt cost much more than a normal repulsor and didnt show all rules yet, atm it look good.

Only thing I dont like is that the dunerider can only carry 10, while being bigger than a Rhino and skitarii being smaller than Space Marines.

No transport capacity in the game is based on relative sizes of models.

Wella chimera transports 12 AM units, Which also seems to have less transport capacity as the tracks are thick and the vehicle angled at the front and back

It’s also what it can transport.

10 Fulgurite Electro-Priests being carted to the front line is a nasty old prospect, because they hit like a tonne of bricks,

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s also what it can transport.

10 Fulgurite Electro-Priests being carted to the front line is a nasty old prospect, because they hit like a tonne of bricks,

Now imagine if that assault ramp has some sort of rule attached to it that lets stuff disembark after movement...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s also what it can transport.

10 Fulgurite Electro-Priests being carted to the front line is a nasty old prospect, because they hit like a tonne of bricks,

Sure but they are still blind bodybuilders. They also dont benefit from the incoming dual BSDT rules