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Can you still fire after using the tallarn order 'get around behind them' to move out of CC and still fire in the shooting phase? It says the tank can move before or after firing as if it were the movement phase, so I'm guessing probably not?

 DoomMouse wrote:
Can you still fire after using the tallarn order 'get around behind them' to move out of CC and still fire in the shooting phase? It says the tank can move before or after firing as if it were the movement phase, so I'm guessing probably not?

In either situation (barring another rule allowing you to fire within 1" of an enemy unit or to fire after falling back), the answer is no.

Beforehand, you're within 1" of the enemy, so may not be selected to fire.
Afterwards, you've fallen back, thus cannot be selected to fire.

BRB Page 179, Shooting Phase, Step 1, Choose Unit to Shoot With wrote:You may not pick a unit that Advanced or Fell Back this turn, or a unit that is within 1" of an enemy unit.

Cheers, just wanted to check my interpretation was right! Thanks

 BaconCatBug wrote:

BRB Page 179, Shooting Phase, Step 1, Choose Unit to Shoot With wrote:You may not pick a unit that Advanced or Fell Back this turn, or a unit that is within 1" of an enemy unit.

Wouldn't that completely break pistols or make then anyway useless, if taken as written?

Pistols are a specific exception to that rule.

 flandarz wrote:
Pistols are a specific exception to that rule.

Not RaW https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/730922.page

Maybe not, but quite literally everyone plays them as intended. Ie: shooting Pistols within 1" and firing Assault after Advancing. So I'd say that's kind of a pointless argument.

 flandarz wrote:
Maybe not, but quite literally everyone plays them as intended. Ie: shooting Pistols within 1" and firing Assault after Advancing. So I'd say that's kind of a pointless argument.

Yeah, except as an important example proving how RAW =/= RAI

 flandarz wrote:
Maybe not, but quite literally everyone plays them as intended. Ie: shooting Pistols within 1" and firing Assault after Advancing. So I'd say that's kind of a pointless argument.

I play them as written, and I'll leave it at that.

 Stux wrote:

 flandarz wrote:
Maybe not, but quite literally everyone plays them as intended. Ie: shooting Pistols within 1" and firing Assault after Advancing. So I'd say that's kind of a pointless argument.

Yeah, except as an important example proving how RAW =/= RAI

This was basically my doubt, I realize it does not make sense, but don't want to trigger an argument over RAW or RAI
It's ok guys, just making sure

As per the first reply, if the Transport Fell Back it can’t shoot unless some other special rule allows it.

What’s with another thread full of off topic arguing? Keep to the topic guys, let’s this forum become useless.