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Why I'm supposed to be all hyped about some vatborn mech designs?

M.

PS: Warhammer hype! Warhammer hype!

Warhammer, Archer, Rifleman, Marauder.

That'll do me as far as IS 'Mechs go.

[EDIT]: And please Jesus no more Zeus or Catapults. I have 6 of each. I don't need more!

I only have 1 Zeus, but 3 Catapults already. Last one with a serious case of steroid abuse.

M.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Warhammer, Archer, Rifleman, Marauder.

That'll do me as far as IS 'Mechs go.

[EDIT]: And please Jesus no more Zeus or Catapults. I have 6 of each. I don't need more!

the Zerus makes no sense anyway, it's a Lyran mech but it's only 80 tons

It's an Ultra-Light.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's pretty!

Only another day to go.

The hype is real, I can't wait.

I wish those classic mechs end up being sold as single units. I don't care if the end up being metal or plastic, but I want a ton of bug mechs for my collection.

M.

From what I keep hearing that might not be possible because of the stupid "in perpetuity" thing that FASA organised with Ral Partha (which passed onto Iron Wind). So they CGL cannot make and sell BTech miniatures, but they can make expansions for their games that include miniatures.

All the previous Lance Packs were Alpha Strike expansions, as they came with rules and cards. Seems the same applies here.

People can gak on Catalyst for all sorts of things, but never forget that the original creators of BTech did a bunch of stupid gak that we still feel the impacts of today.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
From what I keep hearing that might not be possible because of the stupid "in perpetuity" thing that FASA organised with Ral Partha (which passed onto Iron Wind). So they CGL cannot make and sell BTech miniatures, but they can make expansions for their games that include miniatures.

All the previous Lance Packs were Alpha Strike expansions, as they came with rules and cards. Seems the same applies here.

People can gak on Catalyst for all sorts of things, but never forget that the original creators of BTech did a bunch of stupid gak that we still feel the impacts of today.

FASA made a lot of idiot deals yeah, most of which involved selling rights instead of lisencing them.

Any info about current starter sets being available via the KS?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
From what I keep hearing that might not be possible because of the stupid "in perpetuity" thing that FASA organised with Ral Partha (which passed onto Iron Wind). So they CGL cannot make and sell BTech miniatures, but they can make expansions for their games that include miniatures.

All the previous Lance Packs were Alpha Strike expansions, as they came with rules and cards. Seems the same applies here.

People can gak on Catalyst for all sorts of things, but never forget that the original creators of BTech did a bunch of stupid gak that we still feel the impacts of today.

I knew that, I just wish that CGL gives IWM a license to the new sculpts to sell single units.

M.

IWM might not be intreasted in producing plastic.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Any info about current starter sets being available via the KS?

I really hope they're add-ons, as it'd let me do everything at once.

Ah well. We'll know in 10 hours.

BrianDavion wrote:
IWM might not be intreasted in producing plastic.

But they might be able to produce the new mechs that CGL are producing in plastic as single metal models under license. That depends on a bunch of things, obviously, but not least whether or not CGL would even want to do that since the R&D for those new miniature designs isn't cheap, and handing those designs over to IWM, however friendly they all are with each other, might not be worth it for a whole number of reasons.

I actually don't fully understand how the current license and agreement between the two companies works anyway. Was there ever anything stopping IWM from developing and selling redesigned/updated mechs in the style (though specifically not simply copies) of the MWO designs? Or could they just not be bothered because there might not have been much cash in doing so?

MWO designs are designs for a video game, and the rights for those are owned by (IIRC) Microsoft. So whilst people can make 3D printed versions of those 'Mechs (and not sell them, but people do because it's the Internet), another company cannot make them for BattleTech, because that's a different company.

This is why Catalyst has someone else designing their re-un-back-in-black-seen for the upcoming release, rather than just using MWO designs.

As I said, BTech rights are fething all over this place. It's exhausting.

Holy crap, the Btech kickstarter is blowing up. I think it actually crashed Kickstarter for half a minute when it started.

Backer 325 here! Looks like all stretch goals have been broken- and so is the poor Catalyst Games Lab kickstarter runner.

From the BattleTech Facebook page...

FULLY FUNDED in just seven minutes, and the first wave of stretch goals cleared in about 20 minutes -- AMAZING! Thank you to everyone who has pledged, and everyone who will. We've got many more stretch goals to unveil - stay tuned!

Nah, that's fake news... You see, Battletech is NOT popular!

I've said it elsewhere, but I'm hoping they limit the amount of stretch goals. I like it when project have definite goals in sight and don't let themselves get bogged down with "free" stuff or add-ons.

Someone call me when there is a Warhammer available. They have had 3d printings of the stupid thing for years now.

I think there's a fair bit of Warhammer in there; sexy models will sell a lot of boxes.

Justyn wrote:
Someone call me when there is a Warhammer available. They have had 3d printings of the stupid thing for years now.

https://bg.battletech.com/news/battletech-clan-invasion-kickstarter-coming-july-17/

Stretch goals will rapidly fill the ranks with more Clan and Inner Sphere ’Mechs boasting all-new looks... the Warhammer and Phoenix Hawk will hot-drop from the Inner Sphere Battle Lance pack.

As noted it's in one of the stretch goals.

Yes I saw it got added in the second set of stretch goals. Now what am I going to do with extra Riflemen, Phoenix Hawks and Wasps. Okay more wasps is probably also good. Think I can get$5 each for the Riflemen and Hawks on ebay??

Star Colonel for me. 180 of us so far, that’s a lot of new canon characters

So the IS Command and Battle Lance boxes might as well be called Unseen boxes 1 and 2, right?

Having trouble trying to reach the kickstarter page for some reason.....

Man, this thing is going to hit 750k easy. Did CGL underestimate demand? That's so uncharacteristic!

I'm 100% in at Star Captain, but have to say these aren't really "stretch goals" per se... as we're unlocking the opportunity to buy more things.

As it stands, non-paper stretch-goals right now are literally one base of Battlesuits. :-p

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I'm 100% in at Star Captain, but have to say these aren't really "stretch goals" per se... as we're unlocking the opportunity to buy more things.

As it stands, non-paper stretch-goals right now are literally one base of Battlesuits. :-p

I'm fine with that. I can get my Star Captain pledge and add in $20 for the third Lance pack. Less big physical stuff means less chances for CGL to screw up production.