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Well, this was always going to be the Khan and upwards decisions, and they talked about it at length about the web chats planned for those levels. While I hope the Kodiak makes a reappearance, I am very happy with the Stone Rhino.
I too am curious about the Linebacker and the Night Gyr, but it was not my decision.
Urusei Yatsura, Cerebus the Aardvark, Machiavelli, Plato and Happy Days. So, how was your childhood?
Sacredroach wrote: I too am curious about the Linebacker and the Night Gyr, but it was not my decision.
I suggested a Linebacker as a potential addition to a new Clan Star (rather than replacing anything). It's a goofy looking overly fast heavy in dire need of a redesign, so I'm glad it's getting one. Just wish it wasn't at the expense of the Hellion, which is an incredible machine.
Sacredroach wrote: Well, this was always going to be the Khan and upwards decisions, and they talked about it at length about the web chats planned for those levels. While I hope the Kodiak makes a reappearance, I am very happy with the Stone Rhino.
I too am curious about the Linebacker and the Night Gyr, but it was not my decision.
Showing my limited experience with alot of the Mechs but I had never even heard of the Stone Rhino.
Sacredroach wrote: Well, this was always going to be the Khan and upwards decisions, and they talked about it at length about the web chats planned for those levels. While I hope the Kodiak makes a reappearance, I am very happy with the Stone Rhino.
I too am curious about the Linebacker and the Night Gyr, but it was not my decision.
Showing my limited experience with alot of the Mechs but I had never even heard of the Stone Rhino.
#JusticeForGhostBear
The Stone Rhino is the Clan name for the Behemoth.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Sacredroach wrote: Well, this was always going to be the Khan and upwards decisions, and they talked about it at length about the web chats planned for those levels. While I hope the Kodiak makes a reappearance, I am very happy with the Stone Rhino.
I too am curious about the Linebacker and the Night Gyr, but it was not my decision.
Showing my limited experience with alot of the Mechs but I had never even heard of the Stone Rhino.
#JusticeForGhostBear
AKA Behemoth. It was a Smoke Jaguar favorite and also featured in the Wolf's Dragoons I think.
Urusei Yatsura, Cerebus the Aardvark, Machiavelli, Plato and Happy Days. So, how was your childhood?
Sacredroach wrote: AKA Behemoth. It was a Smoke Jaguar favorite and also featured in the Wolf's Dragoons I think.
It's also on the cover of TRO: 3055.
It's not in the most current editions.
Spoiler:
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Sacredroach wrote: Well, this was always going to be the Khan and upwards decisions, and they talked about it at length about the web chats planned for those levels. While I hope the Kodiak makes a reappearance, I am very happy with the Stone Rhino.
I too am curious about the Linebacker and the Night Gyr, but it was not my decision.
Showing my limited experience with alot of the Mechs but I had never even heard of the Stone Rhino.
#JusticeForGhostBear
The Stone Rhino is the Clan name for the Behemoth.
Sacredroach wrote: Well, this was always going to be the Khan and upwards decisions, and they talked about it at length about the web chats planned for those levels. While I hope the Kodiak makes a reappearance, I am very happy with the Stone Rhino.
I too am curious about the Linebacker and the Night Gyr, but it was not my decision.
Showing my limited experience with alot of the Mechs but I had never even heard of the Stone Rhino.
#JusticeForGhostBear
AKA Behemoth. It was a Smoke Jaguar favorite and also featured in the Wolf's Dragoons I think.
It looks more familiar, but its not as quickly identifiable for me.
Yeah, no way in hell the artist intended that huge cannon on the back to be just a small pulse laser, and hidden torso Gauss weapons? Makes no sense. Awesome model though, always one of my favorites design-wise
As far as omnimechs, was there ever rules for them outside campaigns? Fluffwise they're just an easy way to swap out different weapons loadouts onto the same chassis
The Stone Rhino artwork was one of the Unseen, produced out-of-house by Victor Musical Industries, Inc. so the art preceded FASA's decision to use it as the Stone Rhino.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
The Kodiak thing is messing with my Ghost Bears plan...
I can understand getting rid of a 2nd line mech that's exclusively associated with a single Clan, but replacing it with another 2nd line mech that's pretty much associated with a single Clan kind of ruins that line of thinking.
Maybe I'm just not fussed about the Stone Rhino because I've got one of the originals, it's a lovely mech and I'd want three of them if it wasn't for that.
Chillreaper wrote: The Kodiak thing is messing with my Ghost Bears plan...
I can understand getting rid of a 2nd line mech that's exclusively associated with a single Clan, but replacing it with another 2nd line mech that's pretty much associated with a single Clan kind of ruins that line of thinking.
Maybe I'm just not fussed about the Stone Rhino because I've got one of the originals, it's a lovely mech and I'd want three of them if it wasn't for that.
well in fairness the stone rhino is proably in a lot of inner sphere armies after 3058
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
Chillreaper wrote: The Kodiak thing is messing with my Ghost Bears plan...
I can understand getting rid of a 2nd line mech that's exclusively associated with a single Clan, but replacing it with another 2nd line mech that's pretty much associated with a single Clan kind of ruins that line of thinking.
Maybe I'm just not fussed about the Stone Rhino because I've got one of the originals, it's a lovely mech and I'd want three of them if it wasn't for that.
well in fairness the stone rhino is proably in a lot of inner sphere armies after 3058
Put my pledge down again, ditching another two IS Lances.
Someone on the official forums is saying that the changes, despite saying "proposed" in the spreadsheet, are set in stone.
Guess we'll have to wait for their next update to see if that's true.
[EDIT]: And we've reached the point on the official BTech forums where people are posting dictionary definitions of the word 'some' to justify how when Catalyst said that 'some' 'Mechs may change they of course meant 1/3rd of the ones on offer.
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Have to say I was hesitant before the start of this Kickstarter, since I was worried about how it was going to be run, but now that I know the full list of mechs and I know the price points I’m in for a double Galaxy Commander, which is about 4x more than I’ve ever spent on a Kickstarter. Looks like it’s not slowing down either. More new backers today than in any of the last nine and third biggest increase in funds over the last eight, and the days not over yet. Looking forward to see if GenCon brings another boost.
Justyn wrote: My bet is wave one will get fulfilled, and Loren Coleman will steal the rest to buy a new mansion.
Loren apologized for that, it was apparently an accounting error. I'm willing to forgive and move on as it's not unknown to happen to busniesses in the stage CGL was at the time.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
In addition to not really trusting CGL with this much money, I’m also anxious about the stuff that CGL will be outsourcing. Totally expecting that these vendors will make for trouble and delays down the line, not because they are bad or especially unreliable; it’s just that such additional wrinkles tend to end up more of a burden as all the pieces need to move in unison to get the product moving to backers.
Manchu wrote: In addition to not really trusting CGL with this much money, I’m also anxious about the stuff that CGL will be outsourcing. Totally expecting that these vendors will make for trouble and delays down the line, not because they are bad or especially unreliable; it’s just that such additional wrinkles tend to end up more of a burden as all the pieces need to move in unison to get the product moving to backers.
obviously with any kickstarter you need to accept that it might not pan out, so yeah don't go silly.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
I'm very interested to see their wave shipping schedule. Delays are a given, but I don't want to spend on shipping per delivery wave as my country can be very delivery-unfriendly. Right now my plan is to try and keep everything to whatever wave 1 turns out to be, and just get the rest on retail.
Fall 2020. I'm not expecting it to be out any sooner.
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
I personally apply a few rules to Kickstarters to inform whether I’ll back and by how much. If it helps anyone these were my considerations for the Battletech Kickstarter.
1. Value: This is my primary question. At the end of the day as a backer I’m taking on a decent amount of risk so I have to receive a decent amount of value in return. For me that means either a lot of exclusive stuff or receiving about 50% off MSRP. In terms of this Kickstarter I think the value is there. Based upon the material used and the quality that I’ve seen in the starter boxes, my cutoff was $5 a mech (since the mechs are what I’m most interested in), which they reached and the inclusion of maps, scenarios, etc. just sweetens the pot for me.
2. Preparation: I need to see that the stuff that’s being done for the Kickstarter is at a certain point. If all they have are a couple of sketches I’m out. Too many risks involved. In this case they already have the first few boxes basically in production (they stated everything below the $300,000 level is too far along to change the contents). They have recently produced starter boxes, with a resupply coming and they have at least the 3D designs drawn for future mechs, so I think they a decent handle on things up to and including production. They’ve also already started supplying the digital content and have cut off producing more physical content, which for me is actually a good thing. Overall I think they’ve set out realistic goals, and are prepared to get things done, although I always expect a 6 month delay. They’ve also already stated that they expect there to be at least two waves of content.
3. Kickstarter history: I’m wary of companies that do a failed Kickstarter and then try to run out another. This is where things get shaky for Catalyst. I don’t know the full details on their Shadowrun Kickstarter, but from what I gather there was a shipping issue that primarily affected Europe. I don’t know if this has been addressed (I know a few companies that switched certain partners between Kickstarters due to these types of issues), but I also live in the US where there weren’t any problems as far as I can tell, so I’m not as worried about this. If you live in Europe though I would read up on it and take it into account.
