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No. I decided against getting them as part of the KS, as the shipping to Oz will be murderous. Found a place that still had all three items in stock and jumped on them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
No. I decided against getting them as part of the KS, as the shipping to Oz will be murderous. Found a place that still had all three items in stock and jumped on them.

nice.

I need to take a pic of my old 2nd Ed box along with the new one.

M.

I should get a pic of my entire novel collection. I've even got sword and dagger

I love the minis in this new box. They are much smaller than I expected them to be, which is great I was expecting more scalecreep nonsense.

Very good detail compared to the last boxed set minis (and I quite liked them - miles above the starterbox before that). Even more jazzed about the KS minis if they're going to look like this.

Still unhappy that they duplicated the Wolverine between boxes. They couldn't've given us a Hunchie, Centurion or Enforcer as the other 'Mech?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I love the minis in this new box. They are much smaller than I expected them to be, which is great I was expecting more scalecreep nonsense.

Very good detail compared to the last boxed set minis (and I quite liked them - miles above the starterbox before that). Even more jazzed about the KS minis if they're going to look like this.

Still unhappy that they duplicated the Wolverine between boxes. They couldn't've given us a Hunchie, Centurion or Enforcer as the other 'Mech?

just hold your wolverines, smile..... and give a good middle finger to Harmony Gold

For anyone wondering about scale:



That's what they are compared to a Chaos Termy.

And the 90-odd new 'Mechs from this KS appear to be of the same design standard, meaning that they'll all be in scale and won't suffer from Iron Wind Metals constant scale creep!

Now put that Catapult next to your old ones and wonder what has been eating. I did!

M-.

Ah that plastic Catapult is nothing compared to this fella.

I'm back from GenCon 2019! Here are some pix form the Catalyst Game Labs booth:

Gah. I'd love to be able to buy those stl files...

These are looking great, and that Warhammer Black Widow is great.

They need a better 3D printer.

That Glaug...er...Marauder is fairly nice. Needs some cleanup but not terrible.

 TalonZahn wrote:
They need a better 3D printer.

Better positioning and more on point layer curing time for that resin, I'd say. Detail quality looks more than good enough for what it is.

And yes, more cleanup than "eh, yank the supports".

 Albertorius wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
They need a better 3D printer.

Better positioning and more on point layer curing time for that resin, I'd say. Detail quality looks more than good enough for what it is.

And yes, more cleanup than "eh, yank the supports".

They're definitely better than the Robotech KS minis


/cries in parts count and minis not received

Really wish they had taken the sculpt from the original Warhammer design, not in love with that one at all. Such an iconic Mech they need to have a rethink.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Warhammer#/media/File%3AWarhammer.jpg

Also hoping the finishing on the final models will be a lot sharper than the ones that exist already. Still think them moving to a better quality plastic would make a big difference.

well the original warhammer is one of the unseens

BrianDavion wrote:
well the original warhammer is one of the unseens

Can they not produce them still?

 Chimaera wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
well the original warhammer is one of the unseens

Can they not produce them still?

No. Catalyst will not use artwork featuring the Unseen.

 Chimaera wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
well the original warhammer is one of the unseens

Can they not produce them still?

nope. basicly they had to drop the images after a lawsuit with harmony gold. you can read the story here
http://www.sarna.net/news/did-you-know-tale-of-the-unseen-mechs/

BrianDavion wrote:

 Chimaera wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
well the original warhammer is one of the unseens

Can they not produce them still?

nope. basicly they had to drop the images after a lawsuit with harmony gold. you can read the story here
http://www.sarna.net/news/did-you-know-tale-of-the-unseen-mechs/

That’s an interesting read, thanks for sharing.

Seems like the game is up for Harmony Gold either way and they should just give it up now for the fans of Battletech sake as it looks like Catalyst have a pretty robust workaround.

Still wish they could adjust that Warhammer, bigger cockpit, more pronounced shoulder boxes and lose the shoulder pads/pauldrons for something nearer to the original (similar to the MWO shoulder pauldrons) but guess that can’t happen :(

Harmony gold tried to go after MWO and HBS's battletech game awhile back, (claiming among other things that the Atlas battlemech was a copy of the armored Valkyrie *eyeroll*) that court case was fairly quick. it was found out that HG's ownership of Macross was questionable as it was, and it was clear they where at this time just trying to bully other companies, the judge dismissed the case with prejudice. and I've heard that the judge was openly pissed off at HG

The updated model does have a bigger cockpit than the Unseen.

Maybe bigger cockpit was the wrong choice of words.

If you look at the unseen one the head looks much more pronounced and more stylish.

Another thing I notice is all the new range of mechs have similar leg styles where the original ones were much more highly styled and unique.

 Albertorius wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
They need a better 3D printer.

Better positioning and more on point layer curing time for that resin, I'd say. Detail quality looks more than good enough for what it is.

And yes, more cleanup than "eh, yank the supports".

According to FB, they were done by Mack The Maker to a very tight deadline:

Stay up to 11 pm finishing the last batch of 3D printing? Check.
Wake up at 02:30 to drive to GenCon? Check
Deliver a 3D printed prototypes of BattleTech Kickstarter mech for Catalyst Game Labs?
Check.

 Chimaera wrote:

Another thing I notice is all the new range of mechs have similar leg styles where the original ones were much more highly styled and unique.

It kind of makes sense if you think about it.

How much variety do we see in continuous track systems for tanks? If it ain't broke, why fix it?

You'd expect more design consistency in that case. The Shadowhawk, Wolverine, Griffin, and Battlemaster are basically all the same thing while the Warhammer, Rifleman, and Longbow all shared the same legs in their Macross originals.

The FAQ seems to have been updated with shipping guesstimates:

How much will shipping cost?

We are working to estimate that with different pledge managers and fulfillment companies. Here is what we've gathered so far:

Depending on the country, a STAR CAPTAIN pledge with a couple of small add-ons is looking to run about $20-ish. CGL pays the freight and VAT (when needed) to get it into the country. If the Mech Packs chosen necessitate a second wave, that would be $12-14 as well. So, worst case, around $30-34. but perhaps much better.

For larger pledges, and especially those who require a larger second-wave... Let's say STAR COLONEL with 8 Mech Pack add-ons (full set) 2 BattleMats and a half dozen faction packs to keep it interesting. This varies a lot more, but the average looks to be coming in at $27.50 (+/-$5) for the first wave, and $18.50-ish on the second wave.

Our goal is to get this locked down with hard costs very soon. but we wanted you to see what we are seeing. Please note: these are current estimates on average pledge. A lot of places charge per-piece handling fees so adding 24 sets of dice can skew the handling fees, but they are so light they hardly bump the weight costs.

As we know more, so will you!

Still need that Oceania hub...