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Also EA and bioware abandon anthem.
See this is what happens, RPG Studios get masaacred for life Services and microtransaction bs.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Also EA and bioware abandon anthem.
See this is what happens, RPG Studios get masaacred for life Services and microtransaction bs.

Try reading things other than Jimquisition.

They aren't "abandoning" anything.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Also EA and bioware abandon anthem.
See this is what happens, RPG Studios get masaacred for life Services and microtransaction bs.

Try reading things other than Jimquisition.

They aren't "abandoning" anything.

No they aren't they add a seasonal update (huray) and a bunch of corporate speech.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Also EA and bioware abandon anthem.
See this is what happens, RPG Studios get masaacred for life Services and microtransaction bs.

Try reading things other than Jimquisition.

They aren't "abandoning" anything.

Come off it man, the writing isn't so much on the wall as the wall has been torn down and rebuilt ten times taller in the shape of the words "DED GAEM" then painted in fluorescent colours and augmented with flashing high powered neon.

Read between the lines and apply some logic based on the industry's previous behaviour; "what is next for Anthem" is a slow slide into even further irrelevance with token updates of low-effort skins and "content" based on recycled assets intended to drag out every last penny they can from what remains of its playerbase as it makes futile attempts to "pivot" into a knockoff Fortnite.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Also EA and bioware abandon anthem.
See this is what happens, RPG Studios get masaacred for life Services and microtransaction bs.

Try reading things other than Jimquisition.

They aren't "abandoning" anything.

No they aren't they add a seasonal update (huray) and a bunch of corporate speech.

Try reading.
I hear it's fundamental!


They're moving away from the Act structure(which saw us getting fully voiced and animated cutscenes as part of a story arc, with new missions and dungeons introduced) to something else(as of yet unannounced) and there are seasonal events finishing out this year.


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 Yodhrin wrote:

Come off it man, the writing isn't so much on the wall as the wall has been torn down and rebuilt ten times taller in the shape of the words "DED GAEM" then painted in fluorescent colours and augmented with flashing high powered neon.

Read between the lines and apply some logic based on the industry's previous behaviour; "what is next for Anthem" is a slow slide into even further irrelevance with token updates of low-effort skins and "content" based on recycled assets intended to drag out every last penny they can from what remains of its playerbase as it makes futile attempts to "pivot" into a knockoff Fortnite.

Polly wanna cracker? In case you miss the reference, I'm saying you're doing nothing but parroting the drivel espoused by people who don't actually play the game and just follow the "EA bad!" crowd.

Because spoiler:
Everything you said is wrong about what the Cataclysm update was.

I swear the number of times Kanluwen pops up to defend anything from EA makes me think he has all his savings in EA stocks or something. How can anyone not see Anthem as something EA is trying to quietly let die and ignore at this point?

Next thing he'll say is that 2K20 was the best iteration of the 2K series so far and that the gambling in it gave him "pride and accomplishment".

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

Come off it man, the writing isn't so much on the wall as the wall has been torn down and rebuilt ten times taller in the shape of the words "DED GAEM" then painted in fluorescent colours and augmented with flashing high powered neon.

Read between the lines and apply some logic based on the industry's previous behaviour; "what is next for Anthem" is a slow slide into even further irrelevance with token updates of low-effort skins and "content" based on recycled assets intended to drag out every last penny they can from what remains of its playerbase as it makes futile attempts to "pivot" into a knockoff Fortnite.

Polly wanna cracker? In case you miss the reference, I'm saying you're doing nothing but parroting the drivel espoused by people who don't actually play the game and just follow the "EA bad!" crowd.

Because spoiler:
Everything you said is wrong about what the Cataclysm update was.

You mean the Cataclysm update the template for which has now been explicitly set aside and won't be done again, with them instead focusing on desperately trying to hawk a store-brand version of "seasonal" MP-focused systems, that Cataclysm update? The Cataclysm update I didn't actually say anything about at all, which you apparently didn't notice over the honking flashing alarm that alerts you to don your shining armour and ride to the defence of Corporate Daddy, that Cataclysm update? You're always a giggle Kan, never change.

Also; EA are, in fact, bad, and I don't need anyone else to tell me that because I have functional senses, a brain, and a memory of the last twenty years of the gaming industry's behaviour.

Removed - Rule #1 please.

I feel like at this point its pretty clear that the new Dragon Age is going to be the Final Fantasy for Bioware that Square had originally intended....

Dragon Age is going to charge for sword swings and arrows. It will allow one save file, and charge 30$ for an extra one slot. Achievements will be paywalled.

A dev has all ready said DA4 is Anthem with Dragons, now admittedly that was before BioWare gakked the bed and released it as Anthem but still there are big flashy warning signs all over DA4.

SeanDrake wrote:
A dev has all ready said DA4 is Anthem with Dragons, now admittedly that was before BioWare gakked the bed and released it as Anthem but still there are big flashy warning signs all over DA4.

You can't spell scamer without EA.
Ofcourse there are warning signs all over it.

I miss the old days when Electronic Arts was made up of hungry gamers who wanted to make the next Baldurs Gate, or the next Heretic, or the next Commander Keen. It's now a bunch of corporate shills that have never played video games in the life, couldn't figure out the first level of Gauntlet, and don't see games as a art form, but simply as a business model.

We need more Hideo Kojima and less Preston Watamaniuk.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I miss the old days when Electronic Arts was made up of hungry gamers who wanted to make the next Baldurs Gate, or the next Heretic, or the next Commander Keen. It's now a bunch of corporate shills that have never played video games in the life, couldn't figure out the first level of Gauntlet, and don't see games as a art form, but simply as a business model.

We need more Hideo Kojima and less Preston Watamaniuk.

Honestly its the same thing GW had up until the CEO change. Big companies steadily get more suits in the upper ranks and more focused on the return on investment, shareholders, profits and such. They can so easily lose sight of the product and the customer to the point where it actually starts to harm their sales. Sadly its often a steady effect and takes a long time for them to realise that they are losing customers; masked by the fact that they start to milk heavily on those that do remain. So the profits might even be up even if the number of active customers is going down.

PC games have also masked this heavily by, at the same time, going from niche to mainstream anda massive market expansion. So the loss of customers is hidden by the fact that there's a lot of new generations and new customers coming in the front door for the first or only second time.


In the end hopfully the UK regulations and changes along with other governments will spark an attitude change at the big companies. AT best we might hope that they move off the micro milking cow and gambling milking cow. At worst they might do what Konami did and say "well ok gambling, even with the regulations, is way more lucrative so lets just keep going! Gambling all the way" and we end up with a bunch of IP licences used purely as "fruit machine title fronts" ona generation of AAA gambling games.

 Overread wrote:
Sadly its often a steady effect and takes a long time for them to realise that they are losing customers; masked by the fact that they start to milk heavily on those that do remain. So the profits might even be up even if the number of active customers is going down.

It's not that they don't realize; its that they don't care. Once the well is dry they'll cash out, take a few massive bonuses for good measure and find a different industry to run into the ground. The active word in "robber barrons" is robber. They're just breaking in, taking everything that isn't nailed down and getting out before they get caught. Nobody cares about the well being of the house they just burgled.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Sadly its often a steady effect and takes a long time for them to realise that they are losing customers; masked by the fact that they start to milk heavily on those that do remain. So the profits might even be up even if the number of active customers is going down.

It's not that they don't realize; its that they don't care. Once the well is dry they'll cash out, take a few massive bonuses for good measure and find a different industry to run into the ground. The active word in "robber barrons" is robber. They're just breaking in, taking everything that isn't nailed down and getting out before they get caught. Nobody cares about the well being of the house they just burgled.

Robber Barons are not exploiter capitalists.

A robber baron is someone that has enough economic Monopolistic and monolithic position, that he can influence his core buissness. (basically Pre cartelllaw capitalism.)

An exploiter capitalist is basically a selfdestructive bubble capitalist, cashing out and running a company into the ground for personal gains and is more strictly connected to Stockmarkets.

i like how it is nowadays remarkable to get a full experience for 60bucks

I just want to say again, I have over 120 hours in Witcher 1 and 2 alone, and 3 is shaping up to be over that alone. All told, I have spend close to 100 on the entire series.

They just don't make them like this, much anymore.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I just want to say again, I have over 120 hours in Witcher 1 and 2 alone, and 3 is shaping up to be over that alone. All told, I have spend close to 100 on the entire series.

They just don't make them like this, much anymore.

Man, if you haven't gone through the DLC yet for Witcher 3, you're going to be even more blown away. The DLC is an example of what DLC should BE, not just cut out content from the main story, playing W3 for the first time is probably one of the best experiences I've had in this console generation.

 Grimskul wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I just want to say again, I have over 120 hours in Witcher 1 and 2 alone, and 3 is shaping up to be over that alone. All told, I have spend close to 100 on the entire series.

They just don't make them like this, much anymore.

Man, if you haven't gone through the DLC yet for Witcher 3, you're going to be even more blown away. The DLC is an example of what DLC should BE, not just cut out content from the main story, playing W3 for the first time is probably one of the best experiences I've had in this console generation.

Ayy, the dlc are the icing, except they are also another cake with icing on top.

So, last night, played the game for about 2 hours....gotta ask:

Is there anything that doesn't try to have sex with Geralt? They put more into the sex scenes in this game than EA and Bioware put into the entirety of Anthem!

HEEEYOOOOOOOOOO!

He's kind of like that in the stories too - I mean he's basically totally disease free and can't father children so basically guilt and risk free sex.




That said once you make it to parts in Witcher 3 like the Baron's story arc then that seriously shows the teams story telling quality. Heck that sub-story within the narrative is better than some full RPG stories!

A big problem is there is no "good guy" route. Everything is a lesser evil. It's like the whole Roche choice in Witcher 2. You want to help the racially oppressed people, but they are sorta mass-murderers. You want to help Roche, as he's a honest and good man, but he's going to re-enforce the racial divide and destroy the Scoiatel. I'm feeling really bad about most of my decisions.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
A big problem is there is no "good guy" route. Everything is a lesser evil. It's like the whole Roche choice in Witcher 2. You want to help the racially oppressed people, but they are sorta mass-murderers. You want to help Roche, as he's a honest and good man, but he's going to re-enforce the racial divide and destroy the Scoiatel. I'm feeling really bad about most of my decisions.

Atleast you are thinking.
That is a good thing for an RPG imo, and the reason i like Fallout 1.2. and NV more then 3 and 4.
76 shall not be named.

I dunno. Being an adult has robbed me of the desire to invest 100-200 hours into a game, amazing though it maybe, with little or no positive result in the end.

Why play a game you can't win? If everything still sucks at the culmination of the adventure, was the trip worth it? It's the same feeling I got at the end of the Mass Effect series. I felt cheated. Whelp, that was a giant waste of time, mining all those planets and finding every stupid nook and cranny.

I want to believe I'm making a difference. At the end of every Witcher game, I feel like I've made everything....worse.

I rather like it in a sense that at least the choices make you think. DnD style games the choices are often very bland and open. You either save the orphans from the fire or you leave them to burn. One is clearly perfectly good and the other is perfectly evil. They also throw in the odd "neutral" option as well.

Witcher kinda makes you take choices that are neither perfectly good nor evil and sometimes you can't see the ramifications of the choice until you've made it.




Of course neither is perfect. Sometimes its nice to play a simpler adventuring game where the morals are bright and clear and you can be that pure good/evil character that you wish to be (though I tend to find it feels very odd when you've made the polar opposite choices through hte game and yet you're in the same position each time)

Btw.
Ghost recon thingy majig.
Happened.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Btw.
Ghost recon thingy majig.
Happened.

Which thingy what now?!

Yes, context please. What do you mean by Ghost Recon thingy majig?

Hu, seems like i missed to link these.

It's so bad and ubified that, well Sterling is drunk and the other two aussies jumped on it.