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 Azreal13 wrote:
Especially as while it refunds their action on their own activation, it doesn't appear to refund any power spent, which could be absolutely clutch.

I believe there's something about the timing that refunds the power or more specifically, the timing window for this occurs when the target is selected but before power is spent. I believe that's how Loki's similar ability works.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Especially as while it refunds their action on their own activation, it doesn't appear to refund any power spent, which could be absolutely clutch.

I believe there's something about the timing that refunds the power or more specifically, the timing window for this occurs when the target is selected but before power is spent. I believe that's how Loki's similar ability works.

In that case, I would merely call it a good ability rather than a great one.

 AduroT wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Especially as while it refunds their action on their own activation, it doesn't appear to refund any power spent, which could be absolutely clutch.

I believe there's something about the timing that refunds the power or more specifically, the timing window for this occurs when the target is selected but before power is spent. I believe that's how Loki's similar ability works.

In that case, I would merely call it a good ability rather than a great one.

Yeah, so if you go to the Appendix A: Timing in the rulebook that has the grossly detailed timing, you find step 2. Declare an enemy character the target of the attack and step 2d. Resolve effects that happen when a character is targeted. Step 3 is then Pay Power.

Nevertheless I can still see it being one of those abilities that you seldom use, then one day it wins you the game. Depending on board state, it may often be advantageous to do just for the repositioning, irrespective of if it negates an attack or not.

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Massive differences on the two sides this one, so HSM can be happy....

@Alph If it helps, you can pretend that if you select Energy damage with his basic attack he's using sparkle fingers!

Rumors that the Xmen might be a totally different game that is compatible and can be platyed against MCP Ala Warmahordes.
Which may mean that factions will work totally differently to account for how transient the xmen are.

As to the Goblin.
I LOVE how his card changes to represent him going a bit cockoo for cocoa puffs.

Now i just want to see the Affiliation Card. So far the only villains of spiderman that have been release/announced are Venom, GG and Doc Oc. Kingpin might be on that but we will see.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Rumors that the Xmen might be a totally different game that is compatible and can be platyed against MCP Ala Warmahordes.
Which may mean that factions will work totally differently to account for how transient the xmen are.

Rumours where?

I heard it on reddit.

Seems legit.

Azreal13 wrote:
@Alph If it helps, you can pretend that if you select Energy damage with his basic attack he's using sparkle fingers!

Good idea - I'm totally doing this!

Azreal13 wrote:Seems legit.

Ha!

Looks like some one else might be going a little Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!

Hmm, Mysterio listed on the Faction card, and therefore confirmed as a model.

I wonder who'll be pleased with this?!

Well, me for one.

I'm not a huge Carnage guy myself, that that list, and the team affiliation ability, are quickly making me consider Spider-Foes as a lead faction.

I see that both Venom and Carnage are part of that same faction. I hope there's something in there that keeps the two from working together while using the faction rules.

Venom hates Carnage so much that Eddie Brock actually worked alongside Spider-Man to stop Carnage. And Carnage has no love at all for Venom.

Eumerin wrote:
I see that both Venom and Carnage are part of that same faction. I hope there's something in there that keeps the two from working together while using the faction rules.

Venom hates Carnage so much that Eddie Brock actually worked alongside Spider-Man to stop Carnage. And Carnage has no love at all for Venom.

Which is funny because there is actually a card that shows them working against Spiderman.

Venom is also part of the Web Warriors faction, so they've covered his/its conflicted motivation, and the card, while also being entitled "Uneasy Alliance" shows Spidey and Venom working against Carnage, not the other way around, and specifies they're the only possible targets of the card.

You are right, Trip Up does show however.

So we're firmly in the Venom works both sides, and there are instances where he's worked with Carnage against Spidey, even if it was just the 90s TV show. Until Brock's conscience and Cletus' psychosis take over at least.

 Azreal13 wrote:
So we're firmly in the Venom works both sides, and there are instances where he's worked with Carnage against Spidey, even if it was just the 90s TV show. Until Brock's conscience and Cletus' psychosis take over at least.

Pretty sure there's also been a Venom host that isn't Brock that worked with Carnage as well.

I wonder if we'll get a Sinister Six affiliation to cover the actual Six, or if they get stuck in the Spider-Foes affiliation.

Lots of good gak coming down the line tho

One of the recentish things I read had Spider Man and Venom working together to fight against Osborn fused with the Carnage Symbiote, aka Red Goblin iirc. Incidentally Doc Oc also helped fight against that, saving the life of Aunt May and earning a clean slate from Pete.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Hmm, Mysterio listed on the Faction card, and therefore confirmed as a model.

I wonder who'll be pleased with this?!

Who indeed?!?

We're getting closer to a 'real' Sinister Six - but I'd take even one of the latter versions at this point!

I wouldn't get too excited about affiliation-spoilers. Remember Angela has been on the Asgardian card since near launch and she isn't even on the 2020 release calendar.

Spider foes feels more like an Amalgamation of just villains that hate spidey.
Doesnt feel like a group inspired by story or in the books, but just guys that just so happen to no be in a group yet.

Well, we're also going to get an odd accumulation of heroes shortly. Daredevil, Punisher, and Taskmaster are due this year. None of them have ever really been in any hero group.

What are we going to get, Manhattan's Street Enforcers?

 drazz wrote:
Well, we're also going to get an odd accumulation of heroes shortly. Daredevil, Punisher, and Taskmaster are due this year. None of them have ever really been in any hero group.

What are we going to get, Manhattan's Street Enforcers?

Yeah im curious about that.
I dont think every hero or villlain needs an affiliation.
Im interested in how these new round of heros turn out and where they fit in, being less super powered(Punishers is just "I have guns" lol) so im wondering if its just gonna be these guys are more squad fillers that shole up weakenesses in your team.

Also, we could get Heros for Hire.

Not sure if it's a typo but I think it would be cool to have a super hero peanut like the thread says. I nominate something like the Punisher for the Green Goober!

I dont think every hero or villlain needs an affiliation.

I think for gameplay purposes they probably do, ultimately. Or they're so strong that you take them anyway, which isn't healthy balance.

As it stands currently you can probably only afford one character that isn't affiliated in most lineups, so that instantly puts that slot under much higher competition than it does for affiliated slots, meaning the top one or two choices will likely get chosen over and over and other models won't see much play. It also keeps the team structure loose but fundamentally fluffy, and works against people theory crafting the optimal lineup and disregarding factions entirely.

We can afford a few without a faction, but ultimately I don't think they're good for the game (unless they have a mechanic like WS) or will become redundant.

Im interested in how these new round of heros turn out and where they fit in, being less super powered(Punishers is just "I have guns" lol) so im wondering if its just gonna be these guys are more squad fillers that shole up weakenesses in your team.

Punisher gets repeatedly smacked about but keeps on trucking, iwhich is potentially a superpower, it just isn't classed as such. But fundamentally Hawkeye, Black Widow, Zemo and Crossbones all have a place, so there's plenty of room for the City heroes amongst the Global and Galactic level ones. The likes of Daredevil have punched above their weight on many occasions, he's even "beaten" Hulk.

But "I have guns" remains a perfectly adequate superpower when you consider how many characters in the game aren't actually bullet proof.

You can pretty much guarantee you can find a 'team' for any hero or villain that's been around long enough

eg https://comicvine.gamespot.com/punisher/4005-1525/teams/

We know ghost rider is on the way, and with that X showing up i'd be surprised if Wolverine isn't among the first of the Xmen to show so the Hearts of Darkness should be possible (assuming a 3 man team roster is ok?

 drazz wrote:
Well, we're also going to get an odd accumulation of heroes shortly. Daredevil, Punisher, and Taskmaster are due this year. None of them have ever really been in any hero group.

What are we going to get, Manhattan's Street Enforcers?

Daredevil has the Defenders (Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist) as probably his more classic group. There's been a few other groups but that's probably the one more likely as the street group. I'm surprised it's not more well known that Daredevil has been through a variety of groups.

Punisher has also joined it a few times funnily enough. Though what one he'll be finalized in is going to be odder.

Taskmaster.. Depends on if he's counted as being part of Hydra or not still. He's been part of a few groups, some of which he's personally led as a mercenary leader.

Punisher Taskmaster is going to be released in a couple of months. Expect him along with Ghost Rider.

Manhattan Street was supposed to be next, after the Thanos run, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Spiderteam. IIRC, we were supposed to see the Defenders next, but then the Corona stuff kicked up.

Your main Villains' right now are-
Thanos, Corvus Glaive and Proxima, Black Dwarf and Ebony, Ronan the Accuser,

Update from Website-

https://www.atomicmassgames.com/

Update from back in March, PreCorona-

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/marvel-crisis-protocol-taskmaster-punisher/

My info is that Defenders is next, and there's something else brewing for X men.

Hawkeye and Black Widow are supposed to be out next week, give or take.


Update.

I have word from ... a little bird, that-

Ghost Spider, Miles Spiderman, Ghostrider, Antman and Wasp are out in August,

Punisher and taskmaster, Angela and Enchantress in September,

Daredevil and Bullseye , Kingpin are going to be out in November...

I'd expect to hear more about Jessica Jones, Power Man and iron Fist coming after that...

They also said the releases are fluid at this point, so if you are going to get them, get them when they come out, there's no way of knowing availability.