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2021/04/22 14:10:37
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Fixture of Dakka
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Really static. It's pretty true to a lot of her cover art though. I think if she was blowing a bubble of gum it wouldn't feel nearly as plain. Hoping we see a second form for sure.
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2021/04/22 16:33:56
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Unsure if it’s just the paint job, but the arms look oddly thin to me.
Also not a fan of the weird little square she’s standing on with her right leg. Odd tactical rock when they could have modelled it as part of the curb/street.
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2021/04/22 17:18:25
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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The second form seems to be the consensus desire/speculation. If so, we'll get our first Transform: Large model, opening the way to many others.
If not, who would go in the box as the second model? I would assume another Inhuman, but one of the new generation. Quake is the only one that seems popular enough.
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2021/04/22 18:55:59
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Fixture of Dakka
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drazz wrote:The second form seems to be the consensus desire/speculation. If so, we'll get our first Transform: Large model, opening the way to many others.
If not, who would go in the box as the second model? I would assume another Inhuman, but one of the new generation. Quake is the only one that seems popular enough.
Quake/Fury seems like the more obvious pack. She's technically an Inhuman but she has not real ties to the Inhumans as a brand. She just happened to have been created in that gap of time where Marvel thought they could replace the X-Men.
I'd WAY more expect her to be packed with someone from Champions or something similar. Nova (Sam) seems likely. I could also see them going with Squirrel Girl.
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2021/04/22 19:10:44
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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RogueSangre
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I could see them pairing Ms Marvel with Miss America.
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2021/04/23 15:36:40
Subject: Re:Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Fixture of Dakka
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50/ 50 on Omega Red. Putting Miss Marvel in here is like watching Great White Sharks inviting Seals to dinner...
Her weaksauce powers won't be much use on a serious team. Balloon Hands have never much been something anyone ever thought of as a Superpower, along with the infamous Fanfic and Cell Phone Tweets that don't do you much use against a combined attack from Hulk and Spiderman smash team up.
MARVEL is doing exactly what we expected they would do by interjecting these fake agenda characters in when they have no use. I can only guess on Squirrel Girl, who was a joke character in the first place...
You'll be paying 35 bucks for her and a giant squirrel/ squirrel swarm base more then likely.
Better to see more X men, seeing as they already started with them... We need some good sculpts of Nightcrawler, Gambit, and Rogue.
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2021/04/23 15:51:25
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There are people who are excited about Ms. Marvel being released, so there's an audience/market for her.
If Squirrel Girl was released I might be able to get my daughter to play. I wouldn't be opposed to that.
That being said, as a Marvel Comics fan for 30+ years, sure, I'd rather see Nightcrawler, Colossus, or THE FANTASTIC FOUR, but people are allowed to like things I may not be interested in.
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2021/04/23 15:59:00
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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RogueSangre
West Sussex, UK
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I suspect they may have to wait until the movie before they can release the Fantastic Four.
I am not surprised about Ms Marvel. She is a popular character, was the focus of the recent Avengers video game, will have a live action TV series set in the MCU released later this year and is appearing in the Captain Marvel sequel.
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2021/04/23 16:40:36
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Aeneades wrote:I suspect they may have to wait until the movie before they can release the Fantastic Four.
I am not surprised about Ms Marvel. She is a popular character, was the focus of the recent Avengers video game, will have a live action TV series set in the MCU released later this year and is appearing in the Captain Marvel sequel.
And she's a terrific new character. Marvel's "All New, All Different" phase generally flopped but several characters like Miles and Kamala were genuinely wonderful and deserve their spots. Comics are for everyone, not just grognards of a certain age and salt level. :-p
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2021/04/23 16:47:43
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Fixture of Dakka
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Kamala predates that line anyway. She's a unique, inspired character and to a degree, the problem with the line associated with her is simply that a lot of the characters were uninspired attempts to copy that same lightning in a bottle. Given time to breathe, a lot of them have evolved into much stronger characters.
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2021/04/23 17:22:11
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, TX
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Ac4155 wrote:Unsure if it’s just the paint job, but the arms look oddly thin to me.
Also not a fan of the weird little square she’s standing on with her right leg. Odd tactical rock when they could have modelled it as part of the curb/street.
In most cases, the tac rock is the same height as one of the curbs on a base. I have Okoye stepping down off a ledge, and it really changes the feel of the figure.
This sculpt is just all around terrible and bland though. First run of Reaper Bones bad. Having a second figure of her in Embiggened mode wont fix it. Hopefully she comes with some alt arms or something. I guess they aent too hard to sculpt if she doesnt.
Squirrel Girl or America Chavez seem the most obvious pairings. I can't think of an iconic Ms. Marvel villain.
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2021/04/23 19:12:30
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I mean... they could pack her with a new Captain Marvel since Carol's current card is aggressively bad? Ms. Marvel does idolize her, even taking her OG appearance when the powers first manifest.
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2021/04/23 19:26:46
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/994666477
Good play video with Scarlet Witch (5), Mr. Sinister (4) and Quicksilver (3) involved.
There's a few spoilers in there with attacks, superpowers, and tactics cards.
(Sorry, I have not had time to parse it all out yet.)
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2021/04/23 19:39:57
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Is it not a good model, no. So static, skinny arms, and a pointless tactical rock. Should be easy to convert and fix that given her power set. I’m hoping they pack her with another of the Champions.
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2021/04/23 20:03:01
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Seconding the guess she'll have a bigger, Stretch Armstrong form by way of companion model - probably with a more dynamic pose to contrast the uninspiring one the pose shown has. Quake/Fury combination makes sense and they've got art already, that or maybe Mockingbird or Agent 13.
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2021/04/25 06:47:03
Subject: Re:Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
Minnesota
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Grot 6 wrote:50/ 50 on Omega Red. Putting Miss Marvel in here is like watching Great White Sharks inviting Seals to dinner...
Her weaksauce powers won't be much use on a serious team. Balloon Hands have never much been something anyone ever thought of as a Superpower, along with the infamous Fanfic and Cell Phone Tweets that don't do you much use against a combined attack from Hulk and Spiderman smash team up.
MARVEL is doing exactly what we expected they would do by interjecting these fake agenda characters in when they have no use. I can only guess on Squirrel Girl, who was a joke character in the first place...
You'll be paying 35 bucks for her and a giant squirrel/ squirrel swarm base more then likely.
Better to see more X men, seeing as they already started with them... We need some good sculpts of Nightcrawler, Gambit, and Rogue.
Damn dude, you act as if Ms. Marvel is taking the place of someone else "more deserving". Everyone can have their cake and eat it too, homie. Just pass on the purchase like a normal person and wait for your next dose of Mutant fun.
I for one am excited to get Kamala in this game. She's one of the few characters in the newer age of heroes that has been done correctly and is almost universally praised as such.
This game is gonna be going for a LONG time, we'll get more and more as the years go on. You got some fun, let others have some too.
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2021/04/25 20:42:02
Subject: Re:Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Fixture of Dakka
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Something tells me that you haven't played this game yet...
And as much as you opened yourself up for it, I am going to pass. This game is awesome, and even if you want to REEEE about something that won't be of much use in it, you are partially right.
Go on ahead and bring her to the table.
You'll use her ... maybe once, before you figure out what type of a game this one is.
Thanks though... Automatically Appended Next Post:
More like "Champions". Such as RiRi, Miles, Nova, or one of those other ones that pass for the "Nu Metal" brand of Marvel.
You have a couple already, so I'd expect to hear more "Champions" talk in the next couple of months along with a few more X Men.
Asmodee has Cable, Domino, and Deadpool and Bob ... Then Mr Sinister, Luke Cage/ Iron Fist,. Sin/ Viper, and Scarlett Witch, up in preorder... So who knows. I'm really liking the speed and style of the releases... A little bit of everything, spread out across the brand is always a good thing.
One thing that can be given Kudos, The games releases... They really are stepping up and getting figures out in a reasonable time to get work put in to finish them, as you get them. (Of course there is still that issue of the overcomplicated sculpts, but hey. 2 out of 3 ain't bad)
(You are going to want to pin that Omega Red, BTW.)
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2021/04/26 02:45:10
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Are the rules/cards/etc for this game freely available?
I'd like to:
1) Try it out first and
2) possibly use other minis in games of Crisis Protocol as well
EDIT:
Found the rules - is there a good source for the cards?
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2021/04/26 03:00:18
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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http://www.mcpdb.com/
except crisis cards, MCP reveals everything online for characters before they are released so there are less qualms about this.
Also, Ms. Marvel i do not know alot aboutl but i do like her powers as a concept.
But I do hope she gets an embiggened version to maybe hulk size.
She is also somewhat tied to inhumans from what i remember, Lockjaw is her pet!!! Automatically Appended Next Post:
Dude.
this game is full of unpowered characters going toe to toe with gods and coming out on top.
She will be good lol. There are like maybe, 3-4 bad characters in the game. Even the much maligned crossbones is used pretty often
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2021/04/26 04:13:57
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Sadly one of those 3-4 bad characters is Hulk. Makes me wish they would do errata or fixes sometimes. He just doesn't really feel like a 6 threat character no matter what team he's on, especially after the release of all the other 6 threats that show how good they can properly be.
But yeah. Most characters end up useful one way or another.
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2021/04/26 04:32:41
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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If i was to say the real bad characters are
Hulk
Bullseye
Gamora
Ultron.
The rest can be played is varying degrees, but those just dont work as intended
IF you want to play hulk, use She hulk instead in a friendly game
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2021/04/26 06:17:10
Subject: Re:Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Fixture of Dakka
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What exactly are her "Powers", aside from fan-fic and getting in the way?
The books I've seen her in are paramount to a joke on a good day, and an insult on a bad one.
What does she do with the oversized, out of balance catchers mitts?
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At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. |
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2021/04/26 06:22:09
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Are you willing to actually engage in good faith or are you going to just continue to gak on a character you dont like and just say "Well she is bad"
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2021/04/26 07:05:08
Subject: Re:Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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I've played this game quite a bit. I have every character purchased, All assembled, half of those painted, and have done my best to keep up with the releases and learning the characters as they continue to drop.
It's fairly interesting to me that you seem to know next to nothing about game design but tout yourself as knowing exactly how a character you don't like will play on the board before she's even been previewed.
Just tell us the truth, you don't want these "fake agenda" characters in the game because it harms your view that everything should be about you.
It's not even going to be an issue of "I told you so" when she drops because you'll just hide behind a new strawman defense. Just take your ball and go home man, no one wants to deal with closet racist morons on the boards.
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2021/04/26 08:00:23
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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“I don’t know what her powers in the comics are, I haven’t seen her cards, but I know she’ll be bad in the game.”
Seriously man? And you accuse the other guy of REEEEEing?
hotsauceman1 wrote:
She is also somewhat tied to inhumans from what i remember, Lockjaw is her pet!!!
Only very slightly really. She’s only briefly interacted with them, and Lockjaw was only “her pet” for a short while near the beginning, having been sent by Medusa to check out the new inhuman making waves and report back. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if she does not have the inhuman affiliation in the game.
Otherwise her powers are a fairly simple shape changing, getting bigger or smaller. It Looks like stretching but she’s actually adding mass so the bigger fist does add weight to her hits, her arm doesn’t stretch, it gets longer, ect. However when she’s small, she’s small, none of Ant Man’s super dense strength stuff. Going small is generally used to dodge and sneak away. Also has a minor healing factor, but it tends to be less about recovering during a fight and more recovering quicker for the next one. Primary weakness is electricity and that has been known to temporarily make her lose her powers.
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2021/04/26 13:17:35
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Alpharius wrote:Are the rules/cards/etc for this game freely available?
I'd like to:
1) Try it out first and
2) possibly use other minis in games of Crisis Protocol as well
EDIT:
Found the rules - is there a good source for the cards?
There is a very active Table Top Simulator community for the game with regular leagues. The final for the first invitational league was a few days ago.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/999019137?fbclid=IwAR17fSbDnXbNC1Lg6kxMkijj9f7BC_c8BFUW67opD3sAaovLb0OR4nhIB3c
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2021/04/26 16:40:49
Subject: Re:Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Speaking for forced diversity....
Pretty cool pose honestly.
I'm hoping he has a more sgressive style of play for avengers
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2021/04/26 16:41:21
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Fixture of Dakka
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hotsauceman1 wrote:http://www.mcpdb.com/
except crisis cards, MCP reveals everything online for characters before they are released so there are less qualms about this.
I don't think that site is being update anymore. It's been moved here:
http://mcpdb.acrossthebifrost.com
Automatically Appended Next Post: Alpharius wrote:
2) possibly use other minis in games of Crisis Protocol as well
The one thing I'd warn on this is just that the figures are a little larger scale than most games. The figures might not fit as well as you like.
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2021/04/26 16:51:48
Subject: Re:Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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hotsauceman1 wrote:Speaking for forced diversity....
Pretty cool pose honestly.
I'm hoping he has a more sgressive style of play for avengers
Now THAT is a badass sculpt! Poor Ms. Marvel looks like a magazine promo in comparison lol.
Hope Warmachine turns out well. I may end up getting a 2nd to convert into a better Iron Man, as I'm underwhelmed by the core box version.
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2021/04/26 16:58:47
Subject: Marvel Crisis Protocol from Atomic Mass Games - X-Men pg.19
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Fixture of Dakka
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New Cap looks fantastic. Can't wait to get my hands on him.
I massively reposed my Iron Man. He's definitely high on the list of characters I'd like to see get a new version both for sculpt and rules reasons.
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