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It makes sense to roll all the snowflake chapters into one book, with supplements for the big chapters.

I guess I was t the only one to want/ suggest for complete custom chapter tactics for lesser known successors/ home made chapters.
Very excited for this!
Wish Tig and Khan were a bit more blingy, but still cool.

That Tactical Warsuit is what those Centurion kits were supposed to be. Which is Battlemech.

And I really didn't think that I would like to have a White Scar army before seeing that new Khan.

So nice to see Deathwatch still locked out of who knows how many new units. Well played Gee Dubs, well played.

How did they make a primaris baby carrier and still have it be a manlet compared to the grey knight baby carrier?

The one thing I'm really unsure of is the guy on the far right with the comms gear.

What is up with that helmet?

WhiteDog wrote:
Also a new event the "psychic awakening" is coming. What do you guys think it might be ?

It looks like an Imperial I symbol with a stylized eyeball in it. Isn't that the Astra Telepathica symbol? So maybe a Sisters of Silence + Astra Telepathica release?

Probably also something about how humans slowing becoming a psychic race is progressing more rapidly and so now we all have to buy Endless Spells.

 Kanluwen wrote:

The one thing I'm really unsure of is the guy on the far right with the comms gear.

What is up with that helmet?

I bet you can do a Comms Guy or the Helix Adept, but not both.

Ragnar69 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Also with all the datasheets being available to all Chapters as it suggests, that means you Dark Angels players can finally enjoy 4++ Centurions.

I guess DAs/BAs/SWs will become supplements like in 3rd edition. That's fine as long as we don't get the situation from 4th where SW still only had that 3rd ed. Supplement and didn't get the goodies from the new SM dex.

In this photo there are 6 codexes


So I think DA/BAs/SWs might still have their own codexes and not a simple codex "supplement". (6 supplements + DA/BA/SW makes 9 which is the number of loyalist legion).

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I bet you can do a Comms Guy or the Helix Adept, but not both.

I'd imagine it will be 1:5 for them, encouraging max sized units.

Hoping one of those Supplements is Black Templars.

WhiteDog wrote:
In this photo there are 6 codexes
So I think DA/BAs/SWs might still have their own codexes.

And one of those is White Scars. I'm presuming it will be the First Foundings from the SM book, since it seems to be bringing a character with each.

We've seen Tigurius(Ultramarines) and Khan(White Scars) and we know there's an Iron Hands guy on the way(Iron Hands book).
That would leave Raven Guard, Imperial Fists, and Salamanders.

With a little bit of luck, the Imperial Fist codex will also talks about Crimson Fist and Black Templars ?

 Carnikang wrote:
Hoping one of those Supplements is Black Templars.

I would guess it will be Imperial Fists + successors (including BT).

Six supplements are probably going to be Ultramarines, White Scars, Imperial Fists, Iron Hands, Salamanders and Raven Guard. They'll probably have rules for famous successor chapters in their respective primogenitor legion's codex.

Edit: looks like multiple people beat me to it.

I'm curious about the "redacted" supplements. If its just the existing variant chapters(BA, DA, SW and DW) why bother hiding them? Including the White Scars book would take up all five. Yet we know that an IH character is inbound so chances are good they will get there own book as well.

YEEESSS

GoatboyBeta wrote:
I'm curious about the "redacted" supplements. If its just the existing variant chapters(BA, DA, SW and DW) why bother hiding them? Including the White Scars book would take up all five. Yet we know that an IH character is inbound so chances are good they will get there own book as well.

From the wording of the preview:

To suggest that an Imperial Fist and a White Scar fight in the same way is nearly heresy – and the new codex and codex supplements really lean into the distinct identities of each Chapter to ensure they work on the tabletop the way they do in the lore. Codex: Space Marines has everything you need to play with an army of gene-enhanced super-soldiers, and each of the supplements offers you additional, Chapter-specific datasheets and thematic rules that emphasise their unique heritage and the genetic legacy of their Primarch.

I'm guessing they plan on doing the First Founding Chapters as the supplements then BA, DA, SW will get their own codices which tell you that you replace keyword <Chapter> with their keyword.

I assume that while GW already has a number of Codex Supplements in mind (which may or may not be indicated by the pic) there's potentially any number of supplements they could add. Maybe we'll see one for the Emperor's Spears

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:

WhiteDog wrote:
Also a new event the "psychic awakening" is coming. What do you guys think it might be ?

It looks like an Imperial I symbol with a stylized eyeball in it. Isn't that the Astra Telepathica symbol? So maybe a Sisters of Silence + Astra Telepathica release?

Probably also something about how humans slowing becoming a psychic race is progressing more rapidly and so now we all have to buy Endless Spells.

I'm thinking that as Endless Spells did so well for AoS and that its production GW can shift to China we'll see 40K copy the mechanic over. Much like faction terrain has become a thing for 40K and AoS. I can well see different factions getting different spells whilst forces like Tau would get something like a "summon drones" ability etc... What will be interesting is if things like the demon faction Endless Spells carry over to 40K like the models do. Imagine having flaming heads spewing hook whips charging across in 40K!

WhiteDog wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/03/apocalypse-mega-battle-and-warhammer-40000-previewgw-homepage-post-1/

A White Scars codex wow this was not expected.

Also a new event the "psychic awakening" is coming. What do you guys think it might be ?

Case: NIGHTMARE GREEN, the apocalypse that was always just on the horizon where humanity starts to approach it's true psychic potential.

Didn't expect a new Khan model. Makes me wonder things about the Chapter Tactic.

Sounds like good news for successors, what with the custom tactics. Of all things, I'm really eager to see those.

The grav-rhino and not-a-dread look.... ok (I actually like the articulation on the dread for once), but I'm really not sold on all the stubber barrels. What is it with the downgrade to stubber-based weapons on primaris vehicles?

Real kits for Shadowspear stuff was expected, if not incredibly exciting. While the snipers get their fusils, I'm not clear if the infiltrators get any new things beyond the bobblehead.

The 'retracted' supplements (is this a UK thing? 'Redacted' is normal in my world). Eh. Never sold on spamming rulebooks this way- I wonder how long it will take to get them out, and if they'll be more than a page or two of rules plus assorted datasheets of special snowflake weirdness.

Shock Assault is a surprise buff to a lot of units, curious to see how this affects points in the new book and for DG,TS and those other chaos guys.

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New kill team looks fine, but will depend on the price point. Half a box of Reivers with the SW sprue and a box of Tau are far less interesting than the terrain.

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Psychic awakening.... it depends what it is.
If its a world-wide event, I honestly don't care at all.
If its a 'magic' supplement, I don't really care. (and I worry it will be this, for 'impacting every faction')

If its Rogue Psyker led armies or Enslavers/other warp entities ("ancient darkness rises"), I could be quite excited indeed.


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Overall a good reveal, unlike thursday...

Wtf is going on with some of these marine models. That dread is really silly. I think after 20+ years of collecting marines im done with the range. I've never been a primaris basher but some of these are corny af. Also tired of the annoying money grabs with these books.

Not too excited about the supplements, looks like a needless cash grab.

Not going to lap this one up like some other are, GW is returning to its greedy roots.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
I'm curious about the "redacted" supplements. If its just the existing variant chapters(BA, DA, SW and DW) why bother hiding them? Including the White Scars book would take up all five. Yet we know that an IH character is inbound so chances are good they will get there own book as well.

Im going to laugh when is like White Scars, Fists, Salamanders and DA, BA, SW players flip.

 gainsay wrote:
Wtf is going on with some of these marine models. That dread is really silly. I think after 20+ years of collecting marines im done with the range. I've never been a primaris basher but some of these are corny af. Also tired of the annoying money grabs with these books.

The new Dread is clearly someone watching Aliens with the loader VS alien queen scene and then adding some ranged guns to it

Granted that's about 20-30 years late but better late than never - and it can now fight a tervigon! A Tryanid Queen (well closest we'll get unless GW throws us a Norn Queen)

 Overread wrote:
I'm thinking that as Endless Spells did so well for AoS and that its production GW can shift to China we'll see 40K copy the mechanic over. Much like faction terrain has become a thing for 40K and AoS. I can well see different factions getting different spells whilst forces like Tau would get something like a "summon drones" ability etc... What will be interesting is if things like the demon faction Endless Spells carry over to 40K like the models do. Imagine having flaming heads spewing hook whips charging across in 40K!

I like Endless Spells in AoS, but in 40k something about them doesn't sit right for me outside of maybe games set in the Cicatrix Maledictum.

Certain battlefield effects like a vortex for a tear into the warp or a poison gas cloud might be cool, but those aren't rally speels.

I guess I keep thinking about a direct port of them from AoS to 40k, but GW might implement them in a different way that I will find really cool. I guess I'll have to wait and see.

 Zuri Prime wrote:
Not too excited about the supplements, looks like a needless cash grab.

Not going to lap this one up like some other are, GW is returning to its greedy roots.

They literally said no more managing tuns of books at the launch of 8th. Now its just as bad as 7th. Idk why players are so loyal to such a terrible game system.

Since this one's not in the OP...

 Overread wrote:

 gainsay wrote:
Wtf is going on with some of these marine models. That dread is really silly. I think after 20+ years of collecting marines im done with the range. I've never been a primaris basher but some of these are corny af. Also tired of the annoying money grabs with these books.

The new Dread is clearly someone watching Aliens with the loader VS alien queen scene and then adding some ranged guns to it

Granted that's about 20-30 years late but better late than never - and it can now fight a tervigon! A Tryanid Queen (well closest we'll get unless GW throws us a Norn Queen)

I'd lob a grenade and laugh as it dies haha!

The question is, can the Impulsor carry troops - is it a Primaris Razorback, or a light Predator? No side doors, but given the rear engine spacing there might be a rear ramp. If it's just a flying Predator-lite I hope it gets better than 3 heavy stubbers and 2 heavy bolters.