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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Mekboys (now called spanners, for some reason) aren't big meks though. Big Meks are a lot, well, bigger.

It still doesn't matter, you can't have a whole faction that is based upon insanity and individualism in their bulding ways and then curb the individuals that are responsible for this.....

except GW can.
feck

I blame this on Kirby though. Axing the one most sold HQ for orks so that people would have to shell out for the brand new MA Big Mek in order to get a KFF sounds exactly like something he would have done.

I could perhaps see some new model for Skarboyz and Ardboyz.
Yeah I know you can convert them well, especially the latter, but hear me out.
The presence of the kit could maybe push GW to redesign the Ardboyz from ground up. Imagine a unit with more or less the aesthetics of the Black Orks. 4+ save.
Now add some rule to make them work in smaller units, in order to throw a bone to those that want boyz in trukks.
"Shock Troopa", to assault after the vehicle moved or something. Pay less CP for da telly-porta. And/or better weapons. Probably still worthy to just use boyz, but at least you have another troop choice, you can use 1 unit (and buy the kit, GW!) for a casual game.

 Jidmah wrote:
I blame this on Kirby though. Axing the one most sold HQ for orks so that people would have to shell out for the brand new MA Big Mek in order to get a KFF sounds exactly like something he would have done.

except we iz orks. I have my kff big meks and slapped a few left over battlewagon doors on the front and back of the model.. boom big mek in mega armor and kff.

 G00fySmiley wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I blame this on Kirby though. Axing the one most sold HQ for orks so that people would have to shell out for the brand new MA Big Mek in order to get a KFF sounds exactly like something he would have done.

except we iz orks. I have my kff big meks and slapped a few left over battlewagon doors on the front and back of the model.. boom big mek in mega armor and kff.

That is a solution, but it is still a pity to cover up such a nice model.

That model is not really useful no matter how beautiful. Too slow to hangout on foot, limited use if embarqued. Surprise no one seems to take it competitively.

 G00fySmiley wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I blame this on Kirby though. Axing the one most sold HQ for orks so that people would have to shell out for the brand new MA Big Mek in order to get a KFF sounds exactly like something he would have done.

except we iz orks. I have my kff big meks and slapped a few left over battlewagon doors on the front and back of the model.. boom big mek in mega armor and kff.

Obviously you could just say they have a close combat force field that provides them with a 2+ save if the index ever gets the axe, just like you could count a warboss on a bike as deffkilla wartrike. But it's simply not the same.

 Jidmah wrote:

 G00fySmiley wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I blame this on Kirby though. Axing the one most sold HQ for orks so that people would have to shell out for the brand new MA Big Mek in order to get a KFF sounds exactly like something he would have done.

except we iz orks. I have my kff big meks and slapped a few left over battlewagon doors on the front and back of the model.. boom big mek in mega armor and kff.

Obviously you could just say they have a close combat force field that provides them with a 2+ save if the index ever gets the axe, just like you could count a warboss on a bike as deffkilla wartrike. But it's simply not the same.

It's also not orky.
If an ork boss wants a bike, he get's a bike, if he wants a Trike he get's a trike.
Same with a bigmek.

Using a warboss on bike as trike might be ok for friendly games. In a tournament it can be tricky. Size is muuuuch larger (even from the FW biker boss). Actually, the base is somehow wrong even for the official model as it looks better on a flyer base (smaller) rather than the provided.

Current iteration of the Ork codex completely overlooks HQs. None are worth mentioned from the looks or rules. Most people field weirdboys and SSAG meks.

Why a mek would have standarized and enforced weaponry is a design decision I will never ever understand.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 G00fySmiley wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I blame this on Kirby though. Axing the one most sold HQ for orks so that people would have to shell out for the brand new MA Big Mek in order to get a KFF sounds exactly like something he would have done.

except we iz orks. I have my kff big meks and slapped a few left over battlewagon doors on the front and back of the model.. boom big mek in mega armor and kff.

Obviously you could just say they have a close combat force field that provides them with a 2+ save if the index ever gets the axe, just like you could count a warboss on a bike as deffkilla wartrike. But it's simply not the same.

It's also not orky.
If an ork boss wants a bike, he get's a bike, if he wants a Trike he get's a trike.
Same with a bigmek.

Likewise, if a Warboss wants Mega Armor he's going to have Mega Armor.
The fact that Nobs can take Mega Armor, but not the Warboss is just dumb on so many levels.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 G00fySmiley wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I blame this on Kirby though. Axing the one most sold HQ for orks so that people would have to shell out for the brand new MA Big Mek in order to get a KFF sounds exactly like something he would have done.

except we iz orks. I have my kff big meks and slapped a few left over battlewagon doors on the front and back of the model.. boom big mek in mega armor and kff.

Obviously you could just say they have a close combat force field that provides them with a 2+ save if the index ever gets the axe, just like you could count a warboss on a bike as deffkilla wartrike. But it's simply not the same.

It's also not orky.
If an ork boss wants a bike, he get's a bike, if he wants a Trike he get's a trike.
Same with a bigmek.

Likewise, if a Warboss wants Mega Armor he's going to have Mega Armor.
The fact that Nobs can take Mega Armor, but not the Warboss is just dumb on so many levels.

I mean, it's like a CSM lord, or sorcerer,or DE archon.

It's, to put in in german: Blödsinn

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 G00fySmiley wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I blame this on Kirby though. Axing the one most sold HQ for orks so that people would have to shell out for the brand new MA Big Mek in order to get a KFF sounds exactly like something he would have done.

except we iz orks. I have my kff big meks and slapped a few left over battlewagon doors on the front and back of the model.. boom big mek in mega armor and kff.

Obviously you could just say they have a close combat force field that provides them with a 2+ save if the index ever gets the axe, just like you could count a warboss on a bike as deffkilla wartrike. But it's simply not the same.

It's also not orky.
If an ork boss wants a bike, he get's a bike, if he wants a Trike he get's a trike.
Same with a bigmek.

eh... my warboss on a "bike" has been on a trike (technically a wartraxx) sine 5th edition

I like it.

Since we are wish-listing anyways I'm going add onto mine and say we get an FAQ either dropping the price of klaws to 9 like power fists or keep the current points cost and change their damage to 1+1d3 dmg.

 DrGiggles wrote:
Since we are wish-listing anyways I'm going add onto mine and say we get an FAQ either dropping the price of klaws to 9 like power fists or keep the current points cost and change their damage to 1+1d3 dmg.

Point drop is possible. Profile change, no way. That damage would make killsaws redundant.

Orkimedez_Atalaya wrote:

 DrGiggles wrote:
Since we are wish-listing anyways I'm going add onto mine and say we get an FAQ either dropping the price of klaws to 9 like power fists or keep the current points cost and change their damage to 1+1d3 dmg.

Point drop is possible. Profile change, no way. That damage would make killsaws redundant.

Killsaw would still get the +1 attack though, they would be similar but I think the killsaw would be better for going after elite troops/bikes and the klaw better for vehicles.

 DrGiggles wrote:

Orkimedez_Atalaya wrote:

 DrGiggles wrote:
Since we are wish-listing anyways I'm going add onto mine and say we get an FAQ either dropping the price of klaws to 9 like power fists or keep the current points cost and change their damage to 1+1d3 dmg.

Point drop is possible. Profile change, no way. That damage would make killsaws redundant.

Killsaw would still get the +1 attack though, they would be similar but I think the killsaw would be better for going after elite troops/bikes and the klaw better for vehicles.

maybe, but alternatively if killsaws are supposed to be the more reliable ones with less possible but more consistent damage lose the -1 to hit.

 G00fySmiley wrote:

 DrGiggles wrote:

Orkimedez_Atalaya wrote:

 DrGiggles wrote:
Since we are wish-listing anyways I'm going add onto mine and say we get an FAQ either dropping the price of klaws to 9 like power fists or keep the current points cost and change their damage to 1+1d3 dmg.

Point drop is possible. Profile change, no way. That damage would make killsaws redundant.

Killsaw would still get the +1 attack though, they would be similar but I think the killsaw would be better for going after elite troops/bikes and the klaw better for vehicles.

maybe, but alternatively if killsaws are supposed to be the more reliable ones with less possible but more consistent damage lose the -1 to hit.

I'd have no complaints with that.

Orkimedez_Atalaya wrote:

Why a mek would have standarized and enforced weaponry is a design decision I will never ever understand.

The medical term is "Post-Chapterhouse Stress Disorder", or PCSD.

 DrGiggles wrote:

Orkimedez_Atalaya wrote:

 DrGiggles wrote:
Since we are wish-listing anyways I'm going add onto mine and say we get an FAQ either dropping the price of klaws to 9 like power fists or keep the current points cost and change their damage to 1+1d3 dmg.

Point drop is possible. Profile change, no way. That damage would make killsaws redundant.

Killsaw would still get the +1 attack though, they would be similar but I think the killsaw would be better for going after elite troops/bikes and the klaw better for vehicles.

Killsaws only give +1A when in pairs, not the weapon itself.

Not Online!!! wrote:


eh... my warboss on a "bike" has been on a trike (technically a wartraxx) sine 5th edition

Snap. My ES Warboss on Trike uses the same platform ;-)

 Kaiyanwang wrote:

Orkimedez_Atalaya wrote:

Why a mek would have standarized and enforced weaponry is a design decision I will never ever understand.

The medical term is "Post-Chapterhouse Stress Disorder", or PCSD.

Truth.
also exalt



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Moriarty wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:


eh... my warboss on a "bike" has been on a trike (technically a wartraxx) sine 5th edition

Snap. My ES Warboss on Trike uses the same platform ;-)

WHY U NO MAKE OPTION FOR TRAX GW?

ahh who am i kiding, after chapterhouse it ain't the same anymore.

Naah, Mate - just have to roll with the 'Counts As'.

The latest 'Buggies' have become 'Gun Trukks' for me :-)

Hey guys I was thinking about an ork army but I was curious. How customisable are the new vehicles? Without bits are they all gonna look the same? (same kits that is)

 fraser1191 wrote:
Hey guys I was thinking about an ork army but I was curious. How customisable are the new vehicles? Without bits are they all gonna look the same? (same kits that is)

Not very customizable. Which is a departure from how Orks used to be.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:
Hey guys I was thinking about an ork army but I was curious. How customisable are the new vehicles? Without bits are they all gonna look the same? (same kits that is)

Not very customizable. Which is a departure from how Orks used to be.

"Not very" is an understatement. They are beautiful kits though.

Orkimedez_Atalaya wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:
Hey guys I was thinking about an ork army but I was curious. How customisable are the new vehicles? Without bits are they all gonna look the same? (same kits that is)

Not very customizable. Which is a departure from how Orks used to be.

"Not very" is an understatement. They are beautiful kits though.

Well, you can choose to put extra gasoline jerrycans on the Wartrike. So that counts I guess? Compared to 4th ed kits though, where you have so many spare parts its not even funny...yeah, a bit bland.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Orkimedez_Atalaya wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:
Hey guys I was thinking about an ork army but I was curious. How customisable are the new vehicles? Without bits are they all gonna look the same? (same kits that is)

Not very customizable. Which is a departure from how Orks used to be.

"Not very" is an understatement. They are beautiful kits though.

Well, you can choose to put extra gasoline jerrycans on the Wartrike. So that counts I guess? Compared to 4th ed kits though, where you have so many spare parts its not even funny...yeah, a bit bland.

Yeah I'm in love with the boomdakka snazzwagon but I'd rather not have the guy on the back in the exact same pose. Plus it looks amazing with the deathskulls paint job on the site.

I hope there's more really nice kits this October even just to look at, but psychic Awakening is in "autumn" so that might overtake it unfortunately

Boomdakka Snazzwagon allows zero posing and has no extra bits, which seems to be true for all new buggies. You can probably customize it just fine with bits from other kits though.
I guess that's why their kits are relatively cheap, as you get only one tightly packed sprue.

Currently I only own a megatrakk Scrapjet and there are 0 bits left after assembly. None. Nada.

Endless spells in 40k may bring a new weirdboy mini though. A new multi kit for the big mek and MAN warboss would be much welcome.