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They said bigger campaign / biggest yet. Admittedly that could be 4. But I think it’ll be 6.
They said each looking at minimum 2 factions.

I don’t think they’d have talked about this being different to other campaigns if it was just going to be another 2/3 books..
   
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Personally I'm not a fan of the banshee but I was NEVER a fan of the Elda aestetic so I'm not the "target market" but for the sake of eldar players I hope they feel GW;s knocked it out of the park

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BrianDavion wrote:
 Imateria wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
So, I'm starting to think that each faction is gonna get the marine treatment.

Faction Codex:
<Craftworld> <Regiment> <Hive Fleet> books to follow.

With each book realase 1-2 new kits (redoos of out of date kits) or entirely new units and a character or two.

Psychic Awakening will tie it all together providing a campaign book, missions, story and extras.


I think it'll be a little like this except GW have said that there will be at least 2 factions per book so I don't think they'll have anywhere near the detail of the supplements in terms of rules/stratagems/relics etc

The supplements tend to be under 100 pages though whilst the campaign books tend to get quite thick.


they could easily cram everything in a supplement into a campaign book, the only advantages of the supplements where the faction fluff,


They could, of course, but GW haven't so far so I don't think they will here.

The Vigilus detachments add 4 or 5 stratagems, one relic and one warlord trait.

As a ton of the SM detachments stratagems have been added to the codex proper, I hope GW look to do a similar thing here, by making new stratagems no cost, or they make them appropriately powerful. The majority of Vigilus was a complete waste.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
D'ya ever get that weird feeling that all your hopes for plastic Aspects will be for nought as it's just Banshees getting it?


Hope and GW don't go well together. But in this case that might be a little paranoid. Or have we ceased believing that Ynnari are the future of the Eldar? Because the specific inclusion of an Ynnari variant in the new Banshee kit or rules is about as close as it gets to securing the future of an Eldar unit in the same way primarisizing a Marine character is.

If Ynnari are the future and as long as they don't have a large enough selection of models to make an army of their own, it's reasonable to assume that they'll continue getting aspects with a variant for classic Eldar.

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Danny76 wrote:
 Imateria wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
I remember when the Avatar could take Exarch powers - try and get invisibility on it

Make quie a ncie a variant Succubus out the maskless Banshee - they are perfectly servicable models but I have quite a lot of Bashees.....

Asume two to three books - Vigilis was ok but with a very Meh ending, only certain (mainly marines) got anything and they got loads.

Shield of Baal was a much better campaign book imo (especially if they had bothered to put in rules for Sisters in it!)

I'm expecting 1 book focusing on Craftworlds before the next one goes to a different war zone.


Seems like it from the wording.

But also, two to three books?
It’s gonna be way more.


What makes you say that? The other campaigns have been 2-3 books and very little long term content.
'Something for everyone' doesn't make any problems of depth or quantity, just that the releases will be broad across factions.
Which is easily covered by a 'campaign' that isn't stuck on a single planet.


End Times got five books.

They promised revelations about long standing mysteries for that series, too.

Worth considering that after 40k only got a soft reboot with Gathering Storm, there's potential for GW to pick up where they left off and finish the job.

That doesn't necessitate more books than other recent campaigns got, but there is no reason to rule it out either. GW is not going to hold back if they think they can sell a longer series. Nor are they going to stop selling books, and if they cut down on codices now that everyone's got theirs, those paper releases have to be filled with something else. Could be a long Psychic Awakening series. Could be a short series followed by a different campaign.

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 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Impressed by the masked banshee, not so much by the unmasked one. I hope they make mirrorswords good, but it looks like the triskele is gone.


Maxmini has you covered;

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https://maxmini.eu/conversion-bits/head-swaps/elven-heads-bits

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BrianDavion wrote:
Personally I'm not a fan of the banshee but I was NEVER a fan of the Elda aestetic so I'm not the "target market" but for the sake of eldar players I hope they feel GW;s knocked it out of the park


There's something about the Eldar armour that's always put me off. Not sure what it is exactly, maybe all the weird, ovoid plates everywhere? It looks like they glued slices of ham to themselves and then painted over them.
   
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I think this confirms that it's only banshees getting updated in the first campaign book, not the other aspects.

The reason I think this is that the Banshee stratagem shown says "When you select a Howling Banshee Exarch power from the list opposite..."

So the strat is next to the banshee rules in the book. I don't think there will be other strats on the same page saying "Scorpion Exarch powers list opposite", and I'm sure all stratagems are usually grouped together.

It's likely to be a formation like the windrider host/ Wraith host ones from Vigilus with just a couple of strats, relic, WL trait. This makes at seem like there won't be a codex anytime soon either.



I also think the rules shown here are pretty pointless:

S7 3D pokes from the Exarch means she wants to be going after different targets to the rest of her squad.

You can swap out Exarch Powers before the battle so you have to decide if you want -1 to be hit or a slightly stabbier Exarch before you know what fight they will make it into.

You can pay a whole CP before the battle to not lose -1 to be hit on a unit that may not even make it into combat. That's a horrible waste of a CP right there.


Lets hope they've shown the worst Exarch power first.

   
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 TheFleshIsWeak wrote:
It looks like they glued slices of ham to themselves and then painted over them.


Bawling Ham-shes?

Still describes the unit.

   
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So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...
   
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So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...


Unless lore has changed having no mask would mean no Banshee scream. So they probably have a different power than that as a basic ability.
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...


I actually makes a huge difference. When an Eldar dons his/her mask, it is not just putting on a piece of armor. It it the metaphysical transformation from “citizen” to “warrior”. They change the way they think, they act, they feel. This lets them fight without getting lost in the sensations of battle. And when they take that mask off, they are able to return to the world of peace, without some epic levels of PTSD. Remember, the eldar are a very psychically sensitive race. The battlefield is not risky just for the chance of getting shot/stabbed. The risk of getting caught up in the frenzy and going mad is very real. The Aspect system of the craftworlds is one path to help survive that. And the core part of that is the donning and removal of the “War Mask”, but real and mentally.

   
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Justyn wrote:
So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...


Unless lore has changed having no mask would mean no Banshee scream. So they probably have a different power than that as a basic ability.


That one still has the thingies where the scream comes from, I think


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 Nevelon wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...


I actually makes a huge difference. When an Eldar dons his/her mask, it is not just putting on a piece of armor. It it the metaphysical transformation from “citizen” to “warrior”. They change the way they think, they act, they feel. This lets them fight without getting lost in the sensations of battle. And when they take that mask off, they are able to return to the world of peace, without some epic levels of PTSD. Remember, the eldar are a very psychically sensitive race. The battlefield is not risky just for the chance of getting shot/stabbed. The risk of getting caught up in the frenzy and going mad is very real. The Aspect system of the craftworlds is one path to help survive that. And the core part of that is the donning and removal of the “War Mask”, but real and mentally.


But when an exarch gets so far down the rabbit hole, the mask loses its significance, as he can no longer return to being a citizen, and from that moment on his face is his mask (I mean, the idea of an exarch is literally that one: that he can no longer return and that from then on is an embodiment of the path). That was the same way with autarchs, and part of the fact why we've already seen unmasked ones IIRC.

I could see it for a regular aspect warrior. Just not for an exarch.

EDIT: ... and the Dire Avengers sprue has an unmasked head already.

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 Albertorius wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...


I actually makes a huge difference. When an Eldar dons his/her mask, it is not just putting on a piece of armor. It it the metaphysical transformation from “citizen” to “warrior”. They change the way they think, they act, they feel. This lets them fight without getting lost in the sensations of battle. And when they take that mask off, they are able to return to the world of peace, without some epic levels of PTSD. Remember, the eldar are a very psychically sensitive race. The battlefield is not risky just for the chance of getting shot/stabbed. The risk of getting caught up in the frenzy and going mad is very real. The Aspect system of the craftworlds is one path to help survive that. And the core part of that is the donning and removal of the “War Mask”, but real and mentally.


But when an exarch gets so far down the rabbit hole, the mask loses its significance, as he can no longer return to being a citizen, and from that moment on his face is his mask (I mean, the idea of an exarch is literally that one: that he can no longer return and that from then on is an embodiment of the path). That was the same way with autarchs, and part of the fact why we've already seen unmasked ones IIRC.

I could see it for a regular aspect warrior. Just not for an exarch.


I think autarchs never reach the exarch level, they just have walked multiple paths as warriors. Could be wrong.

That is a fair point about the exarchs and their masks. Once they are that far gone down the path they are the mask, and can never take it off spiritually. They can take is off to let their hair fly free though. I suspect that at that point most exarchs are going to be so emeshed in the rituals of war that they keep going through the motions and putting their helmets on. If for nothing else to show the members of their shrine what they should be doing, even if they themselves are lost.

It will be interesting to see what they do with the lore here.

   
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 Albertorius wrote:
Justyn wrote:
So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...


Unless lore has changed having no mask would mean no Banshee scream. So they probably have a different power than that as a basic ability.


That one still has the thingies where the scream comes from, I think


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 Nevelon wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...


I actually makes a huge difference. When an Eldar dons his/her mask, it is not just putting on a piece of armor. It it the metaphysical transformation from “citizen” to “warrior”. They change the way they think, they act, they feel. This lets them fight without getting lost in the sensations of battle. And when they take that mask off, they are able to return to the world of peace, without some epic levels of PTSD. Remember, the eldar are a very psychically sensitive race. The battlefield is not risky just for the chance of getting shot/stabbed. The risk of getting caught up in the frenzy and going mad is very real. The Aspect system of the craftworlds is one path to help survive that. And the core part of that is the donning and removal of the “War Mask”, but real and mentally.


But when an exarch gets so far down the rabbit hole, the mask loses its significance, as he can no longer return to being a citizen, and from that moment on his face is his mask (I mean, the idea of an exarch is literally that one: that he can no longer return and that from then on is an embodiment of the path). That was the same way with autarchs, and part of the fact why we've already seen unmasked ones IIRC.

I could see it for a regular aspect warrior. Just not for an exarch.

EDIT: ... and the Dire Avengers sprue has an unmasked head already.

One of the major points of the Ynnari is that they are also trying to recombine the disparate Aeldari factions, which requires a lot more than just politics. When Yvraine was resurected by Ynnead, it made a big deal of the fact that shes a former Aspect Warrior, Corsair and now Wych whilst maintaining mental aspects of all 3 and so was mentally much closer to being like the pre fall (and I'd assume pre-pleasure cults) Aeldari. I would assume that the Exarch's not wearing their armours mask is at least symbolic and I wouldn't be surprised if there's new fluff about Yvraine/Ynnead trying to help them come back from being stuck on Khaines path.
   
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I think the psychic awakening and the glimpses of Dark Angels might be related. Luther supposedly escaped his imprisonment and I could see Lionel waking up from the psychic shock he has been sleeping in for all these millennia. The Banshees could just be a cover for the second Primarch awakening and more Eldar showing up because the ynnari (however it’s spelled) will try to forge an alliance with this new force. Dark Angels, who don’t hang with anyone because of the Fallen, are approached by the Eldar who know their dark secret and will help keep it from the imperium. Or the Eldar will help hunt down Luther and the Fallen in return for support from the Dark Angels and their revived Primarch. Caul can improve the technology of the Dark Angels, lion helms all around, which will strengthen the imperium. Lionel commands one side of the imperium and RG commands the other.

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 Theophony wrote:
I think the psychic awakening and the glimpses of Dark Angels might be related. Luther supposedly escaped his imprisonment and I could see Lionel waking up from the psychic shock he has been sleeping in for all these millennia. The Banshees could just be a cover for the second Primarch awakening and more Eldar showing up because the ynnari (however it’s spelled) will try to forge an alliance with this new force. Dark Angels, who don’t hang with anyone because of the Fallen, are approached by the Eldar who know their dark secret and will help keep it from the imperium. Or the Eldar will help hunt down Luther and the Fallen in return for support from the Dark Angels and their revived Primarch. Caul can improve the technology of the Dark Angels, lion helms all around, which will strengthen the imperium. Lionel commands one side of the imperium and RG commands the other.


What glimpses of the DAs? Are you talking about the WD article.

I think DAs and Fallen will get their moment with psychic awakening, but it won't be in the Phoenix Rising book.
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
Justyn wrote:
So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...


Unless lore has changed having no mask would mean no Banshee scream. So they probably have a different power than that as a basic ability.


That one still has the thingies where the scream comes from, I think


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 Nevelon wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...


I actually makes a huge difference. When an Eldar dons his/her mask, it is not just putting on a piece of armor. It it the metaphysical transformation from “citizen” to “warrior”. They change the way they think, they act, they feel. This lets them fight without getting lost in the sensations of battle. And when they take that mask off, they are able to return to the world of peace, without some epic levels of PTSD. Remember, the eldar are a very psychically sensitive race. The battlefield is not risky just for the chance of getting shot/stabbed. The risk of getting caught up in the frenzy and going mad is very real. The Aspect system of the craftworlds is one path to help survive that. And the core part of that is the donning and removal of the “War Mask”, but real and mentally.


But when an exarch gets so far down the rabbit hole, the mask loses its significance, as he can no longer return to being a citizen, and from that moment on his face is his mask (I mean, the idea of an exarch is literally that one: that he can no longer return and that from then on is an embodiment of the path). That was the same way with autarchs, and part of the fact why we've already seen unmasked ones IIRC.

I could see it for a regular aspect warrior. Just not for an exarch.

EDIT: ... and the Dire Avengers sprue has an unmasked head already.


When an exarchs goes down the rabbit hole, they CAN'T take off their masks.
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Sadly GW have been retconning all their background. So now Exarchs can take off their helmets... which for us old timers, is very odd to accept.

The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. 
   
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Which us a shame as that piece or lore is outstanding.
   
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2nd edition Eldar Codex is and will always be a treasure trove of fantastic lore. It reads as a love letter to the Eldar race. Far better than the crap they have now... Old Lore and game with today's models. That is where the sweet spot is.

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 Nevelon wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
So... what makes the unmasked exarch "ynnari"? I mean, as far as I know, an exarch is an eldar who has lost himself into the path... having a mask on or off hardly makes any difference...


I actually makes a huge difference. When an Eldar dons his/her mask, it is not just putting on a piece of armor. It it the metaphysical transformation from “citizen” to “warrior”. They change the way they think, they act, they feel. This lets them fight without getting lost in the sensations of battle. And when they take that mask off, they are able to return to the world of peace, without some epic levels of PTSD. Remember, the eldar are a very psychically sensitive race. The battlefield is not risky just for the chance of getting shot/stabbed. The risk of getting caught up in the frenzy and going mad is very real. The Aspect system of the craftworlds is one path to help survive that. And the core part of that is the donning and removal of the “War Mask”, but real and mentally.


But when an exarch gets so far down the rabbit hole, the mask loses its significance, as he can no longer return to being a citizen, and from that moment on his face is his mask (I mean, the idea of an exarch is literally that one: that he can no longer return and that from then on is an embodiment of the path). That was the same way with autarchs, and part of the fact why we've already seen unmasked ones IIRC.

I could see it for a regular aspect warrior. Just not for an exarch.


I think autarchs never reach the exarch level, they just have walked multiple paths as warriors. Could be wrong.

That is a fair point about the exarchs and their masks. Once they are that far gone down the path they are the mask, and can never take it off spiritually. They can take is off to let their hair fly free though. I suspect that at that point most exarchs are going to be so emeshed in the rituals of war that they keep going through the motions and putting their helmets on. If for nothing else to show the members of their shrine what they should be doing, even if they themselves are lost.

It will be interesting to see what they do with the lore here.

There is some lore that Autarchs were Exarchs of multiple paths previously. Which conflicts a *lot* of fluff. Other lore says they were *members* of multiple paths - which makes a lot more sense. Hence why they can take most Aspect weapons but very few Exarch weapons.

As for "always putting their helmet on", I'm sure most Exarchs always do, as a matter of practice. Taking a random blow to the face is likely to take an unhelmetted Exarch out of action until it merges with another Eldar.
   
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 stonehorse wrote:
Sadly GW have been retconning all their background. So now Exarchs can take off their helmets... which for us old timers, is very odd to accept.
I've only been playing Eldar since 4th. Was there actually a time when the lore said they could not remove their actual HELMETS?
I was always under the impression that they could not remove their WAR MASK, which was not truly a physical thing, but rather a psychological barrier that Aspects use to "protect" their souls from the horrors of war. When a battle is over, they take this "mask" off in their minds so they can eventually rejoin normal CW society.
The War mask is just a way to compartmentalize the bloodlust of Khaine in their mind.

But Exarchs are no longer able to remove this mask and thus are always "at war". But they can still remove their helmet. Ya know...to eat and stuff.

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 stonehorse wrote:
Sadly GW have been retconning all their background. So now Exarchs can take off their helmets... which for us old timers, is very odd to accept.

...I don't think it was that way back in 2nd edition. IIRC back then the only ones for which the armor was impossible to un-don were the phoenix lords.

EDIT: Nope, in 2nd it was not the armor, just the spirit stone:

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Bharring wrote:

There is some lore that Autarchs were Exarchs of multiple paths previously. Which conflicts a *lot* of fluff. Other lore says they were *members* of multiple paths - which makes a lot more sense. Hence why they can take most Aspect weapons but very few Exarch weapons.

As for "always putting their helmet on", I'm sure most Exarchs always do, as a matter of practice. Taking a random blow to the face is likely to take an unhelmetted Exarch out of action until it merges with another Eldar.


I have a real problem with the concept of an autarch as it is currently described. They basically make exarchs look like crap and therefore make a mockery of the sacrifice of becoming trapped on the path.

Why become trapped when you can just NOT and get better at fighting than the guys who are literally walking demons of khaine...

Somehow we get this weird progression now where it goes exarch<autarch><exarch (Phoenix lords). It's just dumb. People seem to forget that an exarch is a warrior equivalent of a farseer - they are both trapped on their paths and become absolute monsters in power and ability.

Jervis had a much better take on autarchs in EPIC Armageddon. At least then they would have made sense.

As they currently stand, they're no different to the guardians they lead. All of them have traveled the path of the warrior.

I would redesign autarchs into one of two types:

1: uber exarchs so you choose your weapons and exarch powers
2: tactical commander of guardians. Less fighty stats and more strategic abilities like they currently have and like guard orders, but only for guardian units. Aspects only do what exarchs tell them to..

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Alternative idea - is it possible that the Exarchs of Eldar Aspects that 'defect' to Ynnari are appointed/created in a different manner to those of 'normal' Eldar?
   
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There’s also the description of the unmasked one being specifically Ynnead, suggestive that the Ynnari differ somewhat psychologically.

   
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 Albertorius wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
Sadly GW have been retconning all their background. So now Exarchs can take off their helmets... which for us old timers, is very odd to accept.

...I don't think it was that way back in 2nd edition. IIRC back then the only ones for which the armor was impossible to un-don were the phoenix lords.


Read the screen cap I posted above from the 2nd Ed codex...

   
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 stonehorse wrote:
Sadly GW have been retconning all their background. So now Exarchs can take off their helmets... which for us old timers, is very odd to accept.


Wasn't that always the case? I could have sworn seeing helmetless exarchs back in 4th.

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 stonehorse wrote:
2nd edition Eldar Codex is and will always be a treasure trove of fantastic lore. It reads as a love letter to the Eldar race. Far better than the crap they have now... Old Lore and game with today's models. That is where the sweet spot is.

Also original 1st codex had only 4 primary Craftworlds. It explained to me why it always felt like Alaitoc sorta sticks out as every other one seems to group up all major Eldar units under their wing (Ulthwe is about psykers and guardians, Biel Tan - aspects, Iyanden - wraiths, and Saim-Hann - bikes and tanks).

Although it also states that Eldar first lived on trees so there's good and bad thing to everything huh.

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 TheFleshIsWeak wrote:
Alternative idea - is it possible that the Exarchs of Eldar Aspects that 'defect' to Ynnari are appointed/created in a different manner to those of 'normal' Eldar?

That'd be a big retcon.

Random Exarch's political opinion: "I'm ready for war".
Exarch's answer for "Should we support Ynnead?": "I'm ready for war".
Exarch's answer for "Should we exile Eldrad?": "I'm ready for war".
Exarch's answer for "Would you like fries with that?": "I'm ready for war".
Exarch's answer for "Go kill them": "Our cries herald great pain for our enemies!".

Exarchs only care about their Aspect. They're completely lost.

If a Shrine belongs to Ynnari, I'm sure the Exarch will serve Ynnari. If it belongs to CWE, I'm sure the Exarch will serve CWE. I don't see an Exarch ever defecting (in any direction).

Also, bear in mind that each Exarch is perfecting it's *Shrine*'s combat style. Each shrine is different. You won't see shrines diverge as much as the original Exarchs (Phoenix Lords), but two shrines of the same "Aspect" are not identical in fighting style. Ynnari vs CWE might influence the fighting style some.
   
 
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