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BrianDavion wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Just checked our resident French leakerdude who has said that Banshees won't be out separately soon. Expected, but just wanted to provide the info.

somehow this doesn't suprise meespecially given how long it's taking GW to put outthe multipart infiltrator kit.

Which is really odd- seems like a deliberate slow down/restriction of releases ..[then again there seems to be a wider variety of releases with Warcry, bloodbowl etc..].

 silverstu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Just checked our resident French leakerdude who has said that Banshees won't be out separately soon. Expected, but just wanted to provide the info.

somehow this doesn't suprise meespecially given how long it's taking GW to put outthe multipart infiltrator kit.

Which is really odd- seems like a deliberate slow down/restriction of releases ..[then again there seems to be a wider variety of releases with Warcry, bloodbowl etc..].

Deliberate slow down with all the other new kits from boxed sets that comes about half a year later from boxed set? Poor marines. Having to wait for multipart kit like the rest of us mortals.

tneva82 wrote:

 silverstu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Just checked our resident French leakerdude who has said that Banshees won't be out separately soon. Expected, but just wanted to provide the info.

somehow this doesn't suprise meespecially given how long it's taking GW to put outthe multipart infiltrator kit.

Which is really odd- seems like a deliberate slow down/restriction of releases ..[then again there seems to be a wider variety of releases with Warcry, bloodbowl etc..].

Deliberate slow down with all the other new kits from boxed sets that comes about half a year later from boxed set? Poor marines. Having to wait for multipart kit like the rest of us mortals.

Wasn't really referring to marines but also stuff like the special characters in the AoS boxes like the Sylvaneth and FEC characters on top of these eldar releases- they would sell much more if they released them individually rather than as part fo a large pricey box. If they do the same for Nids I'll have to save for a box set rather than a few individual kits., You would have thought they would have rushed out their cash cow marine releases too rather than hold them back [I'm not a marine collector at all btw Tyranids and Eldar].

The 5 banshees/incubi really kill this box. Even if you have no use for the other units, you could always sell them (even at a large discount) to get some of your money back. Having to buy two boxes in order to field a full unit of each is probably too much to expect from the average customer.

For beginners, this box might be appealing, but I'd imagine they'd rather have full squads or at least the option of buying additional models for them.

i'm fairly certain that there will be an option to field them in 5s, in just the same way that every recent sub unit size release in a box set has had

so while it may or may not make sense in a useful on the table sort of way it will be game legal

I know we've had people slinging around prices, but do we have any actual confirmation on numbers yet?

£140.

 BertBert wrote:
The 5 banshees/incubi really kill this box. Even if you have no use for the other units, you could always sell them (even at a large discount) to get some of your money back. Having to buy two boxes in order to field a full unit of each is probably too much to expect from the average customer.

For beginners, this box might be appealing, but I'd imagine they'd rather have full squads or at least the option of buying additional models for them.

The 'full kit' when released will likely be a 10 man box for Incubi/Banshees. Infantry units that aren't Big Goons tend to be 10 model sets now, with these big discount boxes sometimes splitting the unit size down(Tooth and Claw gave you 5 Intercessors instead of 10, for example).


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 TwilightSparkles wrote:
£140.

Wasn't that someone saying how much a box and book would likely cost?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BertBert wrote:
The 5 banshees/incubi really kill this box. Even if you have no use for the other units, you could always sell them (even at a large discount) to get some of your money back. Having to buy two boxes in order to field a full unit of each is probably too much to expect from the average customer.

For beginners, this box might be appealing, but I'd imagine they'd rather have full squads or at least the option of buying additional models for them.

The 'full kit' when released will likely be a 10 man box for Incubi/Banshees. Infantry units that aren't Big Goons tend to be 10 model sets now, with these big discount boxes sometimes splitting the unit size down(Tooth and Claw gave you 5 Intercessors instead of 10, for example).

Which then leaves you with 15 models, if you want a full sized squad after having already bought Phoenix Rising. Probably best to wait for the regular release.

I don't think we've seen the UK price quoted yet (although the US has been?) the GW rep has just told my facebook based supplier it is

40K Blood of the Phoenix - Craftworlds / Drukhari - £140 RRP
Due 19/10/19

 BertBert wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BertBert wrote:
The 5 banshees/incubi really kill this box. Even if you have no use for the other units, you could always sell them (even at a large discount) to get some of your money back. Having to buy two boxes in order to field a full unit of each is probably too much to expect from the average customer.

For beginners, this box might be appealing, but I'd imagine they'd rather have full squads or at least the option of buying additional models for them.

The 'full kit' when released will likely be a 10 man box for Incubi/Banshees. Infantry units that aren't Big Goons tend to be 10 model sets now, with these big discount boxes sometimes splitting the unit size down(Tooth and Claw gave you 5 Intercessors instead of 10, for example).

Which then leaves you with 15 models, if you want a full sized squad after having already bought Phoenix Rising. Probably best to wait for the regular release.

Oh no, you have a smaller unit and a bigger unit! WHATEVER SHALL YOU DO!

 Kanluwen wrote:

The 'full kit' when released will likely be a 10 man box for Incubi/Banshees. Infantry units that aren't Big Goons tend to be 10 model sets now, with these big discount boxes sometimes splitting the unit size down(Tooth and Claw gave you 5 Intercessors instead of 10, for example).

Harlequin, immortal, loota, burna etc etc etc. Oh and certain dire avenger box...

With options coming up 5 for 35$ or so isn't at all unlikely.

tneva82 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

The 'full kit' when released will likely be a 10 man box for Incubi/Banshees. Infantry units that aren't Big Goons tend to be 10 model sets now, with these big discount boxes sometimes splitting the unit size down(Tooth and Claw gave you 5 Intercessors instead of 10, for example).

Harlequin, immortal, loota, burna etc etc etc. Oh and certain dire avenger box...

With options coming up 5 for 35$ or so isn't at all unlikely.

All older kits, the recent releases say otherwise!

tneva82 wrote:

Harlequin, immortal, loota, burna etc etc etc. Oh and certain dire avenger box...
With options coming up 5 for 35$ or so isn't at all unlikely.

The problem is what's the most recent set to do that?

Harlequins were, as far as I can tell, the last set to stay at that price point. There was "Combat Squads" for Intercessors, Reivers, and Helblasters but those were billed as "while stock lasts".

 silverstu wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 silverstu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Just checked our resident French leakerdude who has said that Banshees won't be out separately soon. Expected, but just wanted to provide the info.

somehow this doesn't suprise meespecially given how long it's taking GW to put outthe multipart infiltrator kit.

Which is really odd- seems like a deliberate slow down/restriction of releases ..[then again there seems to be a wider variety of releases with Warcry, bloodbowl etc..].

Deliberate slow down with all the other new kits from boxed sets that comes about half a year later from boxed set? Poor marines. Having to wait for multipart kit like the rest of us mortals.

Wasn't really referring to marines but also stuff like the special characters in the AoS boxes like the Sylvaneth and FEC characters on top of these eldar releases- they would sell much more if they released them individually rather than as part fo a large pricey box. If they do the same for Nids I'll have to save for a box set rather than a few individual kits., You would have thought they would have rushed out their cash cow marine releases too rather than hold them back [I'm not a marine collector at all btw Tyranids and Eldar].

I would like to point at chosen and cultists, aswell as the deffkoptas of blackreach..........

 Tyranid Horde wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

The 'full kit' when released will likely be a 10 man box for Incubi/Banshees. Infantry units that aren't Big Goons tend to be 10 model sets now, with these big discount boxes sometimes splitting the unit size down(Tooth and Claw gave you 5 Intercessors instead of 10, for example).

Harlequin, immortal, loota, burna etc etc etc. Oh and certain dire avenger box...

With options coming up 5 for 35$ or so isn't at all unlikely.

All older kits, the recent releases say otherwise!

The Harlequin box isn't that old. But lets go with GSC Acolytes and Aberrants, just off the top of my head.

 Kanluwen wrote:
WHATEVER SHALL YOU DO!

Stop wasting money on predatory sales practices.

 Imateria wrote:

The Harlequin box isn't that old. But lets go with GSC Acolytes and Aberrants, just off the top of my head.

Aberrants are 40mm based units. They weren't ever going to be a 10 model box.
Acolytes are a dual kit--and were part of the initial GSC release.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Oh no, you have a smaller unit and a bigger unit! WHATEVER SHALL YOU DO!

Considering that Banshees were, from 3rd onwards, never really that good, and completely useless in minimum sized squad, you have a bigger unit and 5 pieces of plastic trash.

Most times when you run Banshees now, you run them as MSU or just one unit of 5 to tie something up for a turn or two. Their overwatch denial is the only thing going for them right now.

I have 10, and 10 is a waste at present.

I’d be very very surprised if they released the kits as 10-man kits in the future. For a troop choice, maybe, but, for elite choices that have squad sizes of 5-10, I can’t see them doing it.

I might be wrong, but, I fully expect for all the Aspect units and all other non-troop new releases to remain at min squad sized boxes, with the exception of Dark Reapers as they already come in a pack of 5, rather than 3. An example of this is the Aggressors I guess.

Yup, non troop kits are usually in fives, not tens.

 Kanluwen wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Harlequin, immortal, loota, burna etc etc etc. Oh and certain dire avenger box...
With options coming up 5 for 35$ or so isn't at all unlikely.

The problem is what's the most recent set to do that?

Harlequins were, as far as I can tell, the last set to stay at that price point. There was "Combat Squads" for Intercessors, Reivers, and Helblasters but those were billed as "while stock lasts".

GSC Acolytes are a nightmare purchase at 5 models. Alot of options, but it's the number of sprues that matter, not what you can make.


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Guys, it has nothing to do with battlefield role and everything to do with what size box they want them in and how many sprues fit into that box.

The pictures were already shown and it takes 3 sprues to make 5. Believing 10 guys is happening is a pipe dream.

Unless the Banshee Exarch can be built as a normal grunt then I doubt we'll see a 10 man box, unlike the Dire Avenger box where you can have 10 grunts.

 Red Corsair wrote:

Guys, it has nothing to do with battlefield role and everything to do with what size box they want them in and how many sprues fit into that box.

The pictures were already shown and it takes 3 sprues to make 5. Believing 10 guys is happening is a pipe dream.

This right here. Its clear as day that the sprue shown will be the sprue released seperate, and the sprue is 3 half sprue pieces, no way is this a 10 man box.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Unless the Banshee Exarch can be built as a normal grunt then I doubt we'll see a 10 man box, unlike the Dire Avenger box where you can have 10 grunts.

Both the Klaivex & the Exarch are optional builds

One of the models can be assembled as an Exarch

That being said I'd be shocked if it wasn't a 5 man box anyway

Create Your Own Warhost from Warhammer Community.

22 "successor" traits to chose from. Interesting.

I'm already pretty interested by the extra -1ap for shuriken weapons trait.

6 powers for CH Exarches lmao.

We've already seen that stratagem when they showed off the Banshee Exarch 4 weeks ago.

I can already see some interesting possibilities with the Drukhari Obsessions, definitely looking forward to trying them out.