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nataliereed1984 wrote:

JSG wrote:

nataliereed1984 wrote:

JSG wrote:

nataliereed1984 wrote:
Was anyone actually surprised by the release of a Primaris Dark Angels character for Ritual of the Damned? I mean… this has been a 100% consistent pattern ever since September…

SPOILERS: Saga of The Beast will have a Space Wolves one, too.

Also, I personally don't mind that the DA guy is less dynamic than other Primaris characters have been. DA are the really stoic, grim, resolute, reserved ones after all, and this dude does look stoic, grim, resolute and reserved.

And as others said, the Big News here is Aether War, not the 40k stuff.

And Marines have still had fewer new models during PA than Eldar. GW need to cool it with all the Xenos releases.

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic, cos "Space Marines are getting too little support, Eldar are getting too much" is… quite a take.

Yet factually true.

Space Elves: Two special characters, two units.

Space Marines: Mephiston and a literal who? BT got nothing.

"So far, in these four books, over the last couple months, alone, with no consideration to anything else, or anything before that, or the wider patterns of GW releases, Eldar have gotten more new stuff than Space Marines, therefore Space Marines are unsupported and Xenos are getting too much" is not a very good argument.

This isn't some debate, we're posting on dakka. You can rearrange the truth to suit your biases and I'll complain about the lack of new space marine models.

If you start saying stuff like "factually true", yeah… it starts going in the territory of debate, rather than just expressing preferences.

You personally want more space marine models? Sure! Cool! Like what you want! But saying it's a fact that Space Marines are less supported than Eldar and GW needs to stop releasing so much Xenos is the kind of extraordinary claim you really need to be able to properly back up.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 grouchoben wrote:
The big crimbo reveal is a SM captain? Loltroll.

No, the big crimbo reveal is 2 army books for Age of Sigmar and a throwaway mini for 40k so you lot don't chainsaw your tits off for not getting a release for 1 month.

Hah! That was quite funny. Yeah, I get that AoS get yet another big release, despite their minnow's share of the market. Jeez, the number of new armies that game has had since 8th dropped boggles the mind. I'm almost tempted to get into it, despite its substandard ruleset, just to play in a game where new units (and armies!) are commonplace. Over in 40k, unless you're a marine player, you're champing at the bit to get your hands on a resculpt to replace your 23-year-old resin. Would love to see AoS releases scaled back to reflect market share, to be frank, and all that talent and effort put into the better written and supported game...

Anyone else considering using the new AoS Magister model as a sorcerer on disk?

nataliereed1984 wrote:
If you start saying stuff like "factually true", yeah… it starts going in the territory of debate, rather than just expressing preferences.

You personally want more space marine models? Sure! Cool! Like what you want! But saying it's a fact that Space Marines are less supported than Eldar and GW needs to stop releasing so much Xenos is the kind of extraordinary claim you really need to be able to properly back up.

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It really isn't.

There's a growing apathy in the fanbase. I've been noticing it growing over the last couple months, and it seems to be in more places and in groups I wouldn't expect it. I suspect it's only because the game is kind of in a rut right now, and we'll be out of it soon enough, but a couple years ago a release like this would probably have been more forgiving.

People posting dictionary definitions as a cheap substitute for argument and thought is, IMO, one of the All-Time Top Five Desert Island Most Ridiculous Internet Disagreement Habits. The definitions don't even contradict my point!

I swear some of you wouldn't be happy unless 40k was entirely about Space Marines fighting Chaos Marines…

Anyway, Merry Christmas, I hope there's some SM releases you enjoy in store for you in the remaining PA releases.

I just didn't know that Grey Knights sound like Benedict Cumberbatch.

Looks like they should have just tweaked him a little with a combi-plasma and 2x hooded midgets to make him a Primaris Azrael.

Oh well, the disappointment that is PA continues - not that it's unexpected. Hopefully the rules are solid.

Why did they give Lazarus two head options? I'm not one to complain about having options, but it's literally just him with hair or him with no hair and a cyber eye. Why not give him one regular head option and a hooded option, since a helmet was clearly not a possibility?

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Anyone else considering using the new AoS Magister model as a sorcerer on disk?

No. No one should. Actual DoT players are going to have a hard enough time getting that boxed set before it sells out without extra competition.

GaroRobe wrote:
Why did they give Lazarus two head options? I'm not one to complain about having options, but it's literally just him with hair or him with no hair and a cyber eye. Why not give him one regular head option and a hooded option, since a helmet was clearly not a possibility?

I wouldn't be shocked if it's an intentional thing for people to be able to add 'generic' Company Masters, if they want to. Remember that the generic Space Wolf, Blood Angel, and Dark Angel 'lieutenants' all had names but no unique rules.

 Kanluwen wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Why did they give Lazarus two head options? I'm not one to complain about having options, but it's literally just him with hair or him with no hair and a cyber eye. Why not give him one regular head option and a hooded option, since a helmet was clearly not a possibility?

I wouldn't be shocked if it's an intentional thing for people to be able to add 'generic' Company Masters, if they want to. Remember that the generic Space Wolf, Blood Angel, and Dark Angel 'lieutenants' all had names but no unique rules.

I suppose that's the case, though I think Lazarus is intended to be an official HQ choice, unlike those randomly named generic HQ options they released awhile back. (They did something similar for the Nighthaunt and Deathguard releases too.)

Overall, he's not a bad model. But I hope his cape will be easy to remove. The model looks a lot better when its edited out, imo

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Anyone else considering using the new AoS Magister model as a sorcerer on disk?

Other way around, actually. I've been using my old WHFB sorcerer on disc as a Gaunt Summoner. I'm going to have to see the rules for the new Magister to see what Fate has planned for that model.

well, I'm kind of surprised DA didn't get an updated dude, but this is a bit better though - don't have to essentially shelf any of your old models to make way for a Primaris!

GaroRobe wrote:
Why did they give Lazarus two head options? I'm not one to complain about having options, but it's literally just him with hair or him with no hair and a cyber eye. Why not give him one regular head option and a hooded option, since a helmet was clearly not a possibility?

He might have a 3rd, helmeted option. One of the photos shows him holding a bolt gun in his right hand.

Herbington wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Why did they give Lazarus two head options? I'm not one to complain about having options, but it's literally just him with hair or him with no hair and a cyber eye. Why not give him one regular head option and a hooded option, since a helmet was clearly not a possibility?

He might have a 3rd, helmeted option. One of the photos shows him holding a bolt gun in his right hand.

Where're you finding more photos other than the one of the christmas announcement?

DaPino wrote:

Herbington wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Why did they give Lazarus two head options? I'm not one to complain about having options, but it's literally just him with hair or him with no hair and a cyber eye. Why not give him one regular head option and a hooded option, since a helmet was clearly not a possibility?

He might have a 3rd, helmeted option. One of the photos shows him holding a bolt gun in his right hand.

Where're you finding more photos other than the one of the christmas announcement?

Facebook had this one:

DaPino wrote:

Herbington wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Why did they give Lazarus two head options? I'm not one to complain about having options, but it's literally just him with hair or him with no hair and a cyber eye. Why not give him one regular head option and a hooded option, since a helmet was clearly not a possibility?

He might have a 3rd, helmeted option. One of the photos shows him holding a bolt gun in his right hand.

Where're you finding more photos other than the one of the christmas announcement?

it was apparently on the Gw instagram page. Showed a head with bionic eye (for reasons?), and an arm with bolter instead of helmet.

Another great job with a primaris marine! I really do like the proportions other than the wings on the helmet. I would have preferred those to be about 50% smaller to go with the more realistic proportions of the Mk X armor. YMMV.

Darsath wrote:
There's a growing apathy in the fanbase. I've been noticing it growing over the last couple months, and it seems to be in more places and in groups I wouldn't expect it. I suspect it's only because the game is kind of in a rut right now, and we'll be out of it soon enough, but a couple years ago a release like this would probably have been more forgiving.

Its because GW is bloating their rules system again, and trying to sell us a dozen books with extra rules that should have been in the codex to begin with. And also, because we know there will be a new edition once all those patchwork "Campaign" books are out, making them obsolete.
Its like they accidentaly showed us what we are getting for our birthday present and we dont particulary like it, but we have to wait for it and are supposed to act happy and surprised once we get it.
Well atleast thats my interpretation of "the state of the hobby", feel free to adopt a more positive version.

He feels more and more like a random master imo. Maybe his kit is made so you can build him as a random master or as Lazarus the named character.

Is he Primaris? That looks like a normal bolter rather than a bolt rifle?

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Looks like they should have just tweaked him a little with a combi-plasma and 2x hooded midgets to make him a Primaris Azrael.

Oh well, the disappointment that is PA continues - not that it's unexpected. Hopefully the rules are solid.

I agree with this sentiment. PA has felt very disappointing so far.

 Sentineil wrote:
Is he Primaris? That looks like a normal bolter rather than a bolt rifle?

Its got the top rail like the assault bolters.

Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...

Nice to see DA, GK, & TS getting updates in the new book. Looking forward to DG getting something new as well, especially if they’re faced off against salamanders. Or (dare I dream!?!?) GSC!

I’m really hoping a new primarch will appear at some point as a result of PA. Don’t care if they’re loyalist or chaos, I just want more of them in proper 40k (that’s not a slant on HH). I think they’re a fun addition to the game & background, and their models are always (of the 3 we have...) fun and over the top.

A few characters and another teased GK "fix"

I hope everyone at GW got coal in their stockings.

 Eldarsif wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Looks like they should have just tweaked him a little with a combi-plasma and 2x hooded midgets to make him a Primaris Azrael.

Oh well, the disappointment that is PA continues - not that it's unexpected. Hopefully the rules are solid.

I agree with this sentiment. PA has felt very disappointing so far.

On the other hand, at least they're being honest about it.

They did say this book (and the next ones) would come with a single model, so behold... Exactly as advertised.

The AoS boxed set is a nice reveal for their upcoming books. The contents don't particularly grab me, but I'm sure there are people looking forward to that stuff.

While I'm curious to see what the Sorcerers get, Sorcerers weren't really what's been holding Thousand Sons back.