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Just want to add, as a Broncos fan, why the hell is out new coach and a defensive minded guy not using Von on the pass rush.. answers on a postcard please.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Just want to add, as a Broncos fan, why the hell is out new coach and a defensive minded guy not using Von on the pass rush.. answers on a postcard please.

The DC is a Backs coach who values interceptions over sacks.

SO - some big questions for this weekend:
Which 0-3 team gets a win? One is guaranteed.
Which (now other) 3-0 team gets a loss? Again one is guaranteed.
And yes, I know ties are a thing that can happen. Since the latest two overtime rules changes there have been 8.

What are your picks?
0-3: Dolphins, Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Broncos, Redskins, honorable mention - Cardinals (0-2-1)
3-0: Patriots, Bills, Chiefs, Cowboys, Rams, 49ers, honorable mention - Lions (2-0-1)
Guaranteed win: Bengals at Steelers
Guaranteed loss: Patriots at Bills
Honorable mention: Chiefs at Lions.

The iggles won and people started wandering the streets cheering in Philly.

Great game last night, though I tapped out and went to bed with around 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter. 5 minutes of NFL game clock time is like 45 minutes in real time, and I had an early morning to prep for. Caught the end in highlights on the morning shows.

 nels1031 wrote:
Great game last night, though I tapped out and went to bed with around 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter. 5 minutes of NFL game clock time is like 45 minutes in real time, and I had an early morning to prep for. Caught the end in highlights on the morning shows.

I've bought gamepass this year, very useful for us in the UK to catch up on the late night games. But the 'game in 40' thing is especially useful.

Good game, Rodgers is carrying the packer's offence though. They need to desperately sort it out.

I know it is still very early, but KC is looking like the team to beat in the AFC.

And probably the entire NFL.

As for the NFC - probably someone from the group of Rams/Packers/Saints?

I still can't believe in the Cowboys! (And not just because of last night!)

 Alpharius wrote:
I know it is still very early, but KC is looking like the team to beat in the AFC.

And probably the entire NFL.

As for the NFC - probably someone from the group of Rams/Packers/Saints?

I still can't believe in the Cowboys! (And not just because of last night!)

With their schedule, it's hard to not see the Patriots in the playoffs... again. But yeah KC is looking tough.

NFC don't discount the 49ers, They are the only undefeated left in the NFC.

As for the Cowboys, look to their schedule. Before this weekend, and the Saints game, their opponents had a total of 1 win. Now they have a total of 2, not counting the Saints, both by the Giants (Tampa, Wash.). So I wouldn't call Dallas' 3 wins "quality". And remember their schedule is back loaded. After their Bye, they face Minn, Detroit, Chicago, NE, Buffalo,
and the Rams as well as a visit to Philadelphia.
Lets see how they fare vs Green Bay next week.

Oh, I wasn't saying the Patriots weren't going to make the playoffs!

That would be...silly.

I was just spitballing who would make it to the Superbowl!

KC vs. (TBD) is my current guess!

 Alpharius wrote:


KC vs. (TBD) is my current guess!

Looks about as perfect as one of Mozart's paintings

(seriously, something that Andy Reid said to his team post-game this week)

 Alpharius wrote:
Oh, I wasn't saying the Patriots weren't going to make the playoffs!

That would be...silly.

I was just spitballing who would make it to the Superbowl!

KC vs. (TBD) is my current guess!

I've been thinking KC was going to make it to the superbowl for several years running now. They just seem to disintegrate in the playoffs. They deserve a SB win for sure though.

Andy Reid in big games...not so good.

 gorgon wrote:
Andy Reid in big games...not so good.

Yep, clock management, challenge plays, and just weird play calling are the norm for Andy Reid in big games. Which is a shame, as he's otherwise a phenomenal coach.

In Baltimore Ravens news, I don't think its panic time yet, but that loss to the Browns was brutal. The Browns looked legit for the most part. Not Super Bowl bound legit, but winning season/maybe playoff legit. Particularly with the Steelers and Bengals in a rough spot.

Could it be?!?

Finally...

...a *good* Thursday Night Football game?!?

 Alpharius wrote:
Oh, I wasn't saying the Patriots weren't going to make the playoffs!

That would be...silly.

I was just spitballing who would make it to the Superbowl!

KC vs. (TBD) is my current guess!

You gotta call the pats favorites. They have a top defense this year on top of having Brady/Belichick and edelman can always move the ball when they need to. I think Pats will probably go 14-2 15-1 and win the superbowl this year but will have a lot of ugly games.

Another good game last night.

But the soft roughing the passer calls need to stop:

https://streamable.com/cy64o

Yeah that RTP call was weak. Basically gives the qb a free pass outside the pocket if they're going to call them like that.

Gutted about the missed FG too. I was hoping they'd just play it on 1st or 2nd down once they were in range but I guess no ones going to call that.

Apparently the Drop kick from the ravens/Chiefs game was ruled "illegal" by the NFL way after the fact.

Drop Kick Ruling

The Kick. looks like it basically follows the rule. Might be a tad late after the bounce according to the article.

wow that's unusual, but yeah to me a drop kick is where you drop the ball on its end and then kick it immediately after the bounce so your laces hit the end to get it up, so that one could be a little late.

seems odd that he got 2 attempts at it too? is that normal? I'm not as familiar with the rules for the more unusual kick off plays.

Scary injury for the backup QB on the Steelers. Dude was completely starched.

They still almost won against my Ravens with the third stringer...

Which No Win gets their first this week? Jets, Bengals, Dolphins, Redskins?
Is there any magic for the Giants vs the Patriots?

Place yer bets.

 helgrenze wrote:
Which No Win gets their first this week? Jets, Bengals, Dolphins, Redskins?
Is there any magic for the Giants vs the Patriots?

Place yer bets.

Only the Redskins I think.

I don't think the Giants have the offensive ability to beat the Pats defense.

 helgrenze wrote:
Which No Win gets their first this week? Jets, Bengals, Dolphins, Redskins?
Is there any magic for the Giants vs the Patriots?

Place yer bets.

I don't think the Jets have a realistic chance to win the next two weeks, likely three (Jacksonville isn't great, but also not terrible, maybe). Their best hope for a win is 4 weeks away, at Miami. While both teams have pathetic offenses the Jets defense is likely a fair bit better. Plus, the Jet's offense has "reason" to think it could get better with Darnold back. How much better? Unclear, probably only a little, but that is likely enough to get 2-3 wins this year vs. the other cellar-dweller teams. The Dolphins? I don't know, I'm not a Dolphin fan, so I don't really follow, but their defense sure seems wretched, statwise.

I think the Redskins get a win vs. Miami this week.

Giants have a shot - though they've been hit hard by injuries.

Short turnaround, the Pats' offense sputtering still, Edelman not at 100%...

But yes, more likely that the Redskins get a win as they can't commit to much of anything while the Dolphins seems to have really committed to their tanking rebuilding plan this season.

Addendum to previous.

Can the Rams stop the 49er train?

I agree about the Jets not having much of a chance, Their D-line had almost no pass rush. Their O-line was even worse giving up 10 sacks, including a stripsack for a TD. Plus they only got 10 first downs. Darnold might help with the passing game, but only if they can keep another top pass rush D in check.

Washington get a slight edge vs Miami as the 28th ranked Offense and 28th ranked Defense vs the 31st and 32nd respectively. However, Washington also just fired their Head Coach, so I'm calling this a coinflip.

The Bengals situation just keeps getting worse since the visit Baltimore this week. Barring some kind of miracle they drop to 0-6.

Giants at NE Thursday.... Offensively they are almost even, But NE has the #1 Defense vs the pass and #3 vs the rush. and everyone know who is going to be running the ball.... Add in the NYG have the #30 ranked D. and no Manning Miracles ...

 helgrenze wrote:

The Bengals situation just keeps getting worse since the visit Baltimore this week. Barring some kind of miracle they drop to 0-6.

On paper I agree, but over the years I come to not underestimate the Ravens ability to play/coach down to their opponents level.

AFC North is a shambles.

Giants. . . it's not the Superbowl, so I don't rate their chances of beating an undefeated Pats team

Rams. . . could beat the 9ers, we'll see, but I think that their overall style of play, their coaching setup and whatnot give them a pretty good shot at it.

 helgrenze wrote:
Addendum to previous.

Can the Rams stop the 49er train?

Just by eyeball, I think the Rams are better than the 49ers. Likely a close game, but I think the Rams win. (Even though I hope they don't, I'm an "honorary" Saints fan, since I live don't live in NY anymore, plus, the Jets are the Jets...)

 helgrenze wrote:
I agree about the Jets not having much of a chance, Their D-line had almost no pass rush. Their O-line was even worse giving up 10 sacks, including a stripsack for a TD. Plus they only got 10 first downs. Darnold might help with the passing game, but only if they can keep another top pass rush D in check.

Again, by eyeball, both the Jets lines are bad. Their O-Line is especially terrible, but a better QB can likely only help, even if only a tiny bit. I think the Jet's defense can give the Cowboys a little bit of trouble, but ultimately the Cowboys defense is way better than the Jets offense and the game will slip away as soon as the Jets defense gets a little tired from being on the field way too long.

Pats vs. Whocares, for the Patrtiotsbowl 2020. Tommy could throw 5 INTs and still win the game based off this defense. This is Legion of Boom levels of good. Like, they're gonna be setting records for QB hits, forced turn overs, and 3 and outs.

On the other hand, Tom is just giving up on ever getting a half decent target to throw to. His options are Edleman, a bunch of nobodies who accidentally wandered into the locker room, and James White. He can't even run the ball because his edge blocker TEs are trash.

We still take the superbowl, 34 to 3. All defensive touchdowns and safeties.

Give any team the Pats creampuff schedule and they make the playoffs. Their next 4 games are the Giants, Jets, Browns, and Ravens with 3 of them being night games. Then a Bye week. after that is the toughest part of the schedule: Eagles, Cowboys, Texans, and Chiefs before finishing with Bengals, Bills, and Dolphins.
That's roughly 12 near guaranteed wins.
Their toughest game so far was the Bills who kept it within a TD but couldn't finish.