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GaroRobe wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Just clocked on FB.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/30/games-workshop-and-marvel-comics-team-upgw-homepage-post-1/

Nothing much to show at the moment, but told to expect them around 2020.

*YAWN*

Seriously, no one reads super hero comics anymore, let alone 40K stuff.

Except they do...? Comics are still super popular. Look at Detective Comics #1000, celebrating the 80th anniversary of Batman. The issue had initial orders in North America of more than 526,000 copies. That would be like saying nobody buys models to paint anymore. They do. You're just not hanging out with that crowd.

All three of the stores in my area stopped carrying comics in the spring because they made nothing in terms of sales for the shops. Marvels sale of print comics are at an all time low, and I believe I read that DC is even worse.

Could it be that digital sales are simply overtaking print rather like in books? I know that I buy almost all my comics on Comixology in digital and read them on a tablet rather than get them in physical form (I tend to reserve that for something hardback and special)

"We outsourced our previous comics to failing companies and it didn't work well, so now we're going to change up our strategy and outsource our comics to a company that has locked itself in a suicidal culture war with its fanbase!"

GW needs to just make their own comics.

 Overread wrote:
Could it be that digital sales are simply overtaking print rather like in books? I know that I buy almost all my comics on Comixology in digital and read them on a tablet rather than get them in physical form (I tend to reserve that for something hardback and special)

Digital sales could be. I have no idea how many people do the tablet thing.

I found this for physical sales:

https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2019.html

Pretty low numbers. Digital is just another deathknell to the brick and mortar stores.


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 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
"We outsourced our previous comics to failing companies and it didn't work well, so now we're going to change up our strategy and outsource our comics to a company that has locked itself in a suicidal culture war with its fanbase!"

GW needs to just make their own comics.

This is the other issue I was trying to avoid, but yes, it is an issue. A Big one.

Without going into any specifics on what Marvel is doing, and all the different sides in that struggle, and hope we can all appreciate that 40k currently does NOT have that conflict taking place within it on any large scale, and I hope it stays that way.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Disney buying up 40k would be the best thing to ever happen to the IP.

I've read a great number of wrong things on the internet in my life, but this is perhaps the wrongest.

Jack Flask wrote:

 TwilightSparkles wrote:

Would be amazing if Disney bought the IP

I take it you haven't seen what Disney has done to Star Wars or you wouldn't be saying that.

Warhammer under Disney would likely turn into something much worse than any of the bumbling GW manages now.

A 40k movie in the style of Rogue One? Would happily watch that...

But alas, this is just about comics.

SamusDrake wrote:
Would have thought 2000AD would have been an ideal match for Gamesworkshop.

It arguably would. Their influence, in the early days was kind of mutual. But, much as I love me 2000AD and that, I’m not sure it’s reach is suitably international for GW’s reach.

One needs only to look to US reviews of Dredd 3D criticising his fascistic nature to see how little their prize IP is know outside of these sceptre isles.

I eagerly welcome more tales of Marines Pwning the Filthy Xenos While Not Losing.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

Jack Flask wrote:

 TwilightSparkles wrote:

Would be amazing if Disney bought the IP

I take it you haven't seen what Disney has done to Star Wars or you wouldn't be saying that.

Warhammer under Disney would likely turn into something much worse than any of the bumbling GW manages now.

A 40k movie in the style of Rogue One? Would happily watch that...

But alas, this is just about comics.

I would too, but people need to realize that Rogue One was an comforting outlier amongst the disaster that has been the rest of Disney's Star Wars reboot (I'm not talking about just the film's but also the licensing, merchandising, etc).

 Togusa wrote:
Do you have any examples of the DOW3 art? I can't find anything via a google search, and I am curious!

Sure:





I had so much hopes for this yet I struggle to name 40K fan artist that would do worse job. For free, even

 Irbis wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Do you have any examples of the DOW3 art? I can't find anything via a google search, and I am curious!

Sure:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

I had so much hopes for this yet I struggle to name 40K fan artist that would do worse job. For free, even

Wow. Those look like some nice storyboards, not a finished product. I wouldn't be bothered by a free web comic in that style, but cmon...

 Irbis wrote:
Ah, this explains why they dropped their Titan Comics cooperation like a hot potato. Hopefully Marvel forces better QC than Titan did, DoW III comic featured one of the most garbage art quality I have ever seen in print and terribad story, Deathwatch had such weak non-story I wonder what even was the point (plus art that you sometimes wonder how it passed simple logic check, never mind any kind of actual review, like forgetting to draw the actual barrel part of gun multiple times) and while I don't have a problem with their DA comics, I hear DA fans were whining there was something wrong with them too.

As for the content, Cain would make perfect Marvel series, as would a lot of other series. Hopefully GW won't insist on 40K writers this time...

Dan Abnett has worked for both marvel comics and Black Library. I could see him being tapped for the series

Today is a sad day. Goodbye Warhammer 40,000.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Irbis wrote:
Ah, this explains why they dropped their Titan Comics cooperation like a hot potato. Hopefully Marvel forces better QC than Titan did, DoW III comic featured one of the most garbage art quality I have ever seen in print and terribad story, Deathwatch had such weak non-story I wonder what even was the point (plus art that you sometimes wonder how it passed simple logic check, never mind any kind of actual review, like forgetting to draw the actual barrel part of gun multiple times) and while I don't have a problem with their DA comics, I hear DA fans were whining there was something wrong with them too.

As for the content, Cain would make perfect Marvel series, as would a lot of other series. Hopefully GW won't insist on 40K writers this time...

Dan Abnett has worked for both marvel comics and Black Library. I could see him being tapped for the series

Indeed, the MCU’s breakout heroes, the Guardians of the Galaxy are based off his take on them. He’s named in the credits.

Jack Flask wrote:

I take it you haven't seen what Disney has done to Star Wars or you wouldn't be saying that.

Improved it massively compared to Lucas' puerile and amateurish Prequel Trilogy trash?



This is certainly interesting news, and Marvel has the talent to potentially make this amazing. I am eagerly awaiting what they come up with.

This is terrible news. Marvel and Disney will make 40k a happy-go-lucky thing or cram politics down our throats now.

I don't read comics but 40k getting one step closer to sitting at the table with The Mouse is something that makes me happy.

Besides 40k fluff isn't all that impressive nor is it all that dark. And mostly relies on tons of fan base editorializing to make it sound cooler than it actually is. Hell, most of 40k fluff is barely punching at Young Adults level and hasn't in a long time.

So I don't see how this will impact anything other than generating more exposure for something I like.

 Dranu wrote:
This is terrible news. Marvel and Disney will make 40k a happy-go-lucky thing or cram politics down our throats now.

Or you could just, I don't know, not read these comics...?

It’s......it’s as if they’ve never actually got anything Marvel has ever preached, ever.

 Dranu wrote:
This is terrible news. Marvel and Disney will make 40k a happy-go-lucky thing or cram politics down our throats now.

Don't overreact so much for God's sake.

 Dranu wrote:
This is terrible news. Marvel and Disney will make 40k a happy-go-lucky thing or cram politics down our throats now.

40k lore actively portrays Imperium, a xenophobic, luddite, authoritarian theocracy as the good guys we the audience are supposed to cheer for, as "the humans". A bit late to keep politics out of the setting, isn't it?
But who knows, maybe we'll return to the traditional days when GW made fun of the imperium instead?

Crimson wrote:

Jack Flask wrote:

I take it you haven't seen what Disney has done to Star Wars or you wouldn't be saying that.

Improved it massively compared to Lucas' puerile and amateurish Prequel Trilogy trash?



This is certainly interesting news, and Marvel has the talent to potentially make this amazing. I am eagerly awaiting what they come up with.

Careful. You're on the internet. You're not allowed to like TFA or TLJ.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:It’s......it’s as if they’ve never actually got anything Marvel has ever preached, ever.

I'm assuming many of the people commenting on this thread are the same people who think the Imperium of Man are the "good guys" of the setting.

This is either
1) Marxist Social Justice Comics for normies.
2) A total failure simular to Space Marine Movie but worse.
3) Comic books are doing badly if you know go research the statistics because of market factors change with time (We in the era of on demand content, comics is not on demand even if there are online providers. Many other factors), putting real world propaganda into entertainment isn't helping this either.

There is a reason why OG comics are worth a lot of money and CURRENT Edition no1s are worth less than toilet paper (an will be this forever).

 insaniak wrote:

 Dranu wrote:
This is terrible news. Marvel and Disney will make 40k a happy-go-lucky thing or cram politics down our throats now.

Or you could just, I don't know, not read these comics...?

Except this is a complete fallacy and not an actual counter to anything he said.

Not buying a product does not work against Marxists. They cite "white males are bad, and are just sexist women haters that live in the basement and move on with their day." They do not care about profits only to acquire more vehicles to infect their politics into. This has a proven negative effect on any brand they get their hands on.

Cronch wrote:

But who knows, maybe we'll return to the traditional days when GW made fun of the imperium instead?

That would be welcome.

And like clockwork, ThatMG demonstrates my point.

ThatMG wrote:
... putting real world propaganda into entertainment isn't helping this either.

People have been putting 'real world propaganda' into entertainment for as long as there has been entertainment.

Except this is a complete fallacy and not an actual counter to anything he said.

Not buying a product does not work against Marxists. They cite "white males are bad, and are just sexist women haters that live in the basement and move on with their day." They do not care about profits only to acquire more vehicles to infect their politics into. This has a proven negative effect on any brand they get their hands on.

Except it is a counter to the claim that something is being 'crammed down our throats'.

Unless Marvel representatives are showing up at your house, strapping you to a chair and forcing you at gunpoint to read these comics, nothing in them is being 'crammed down your throat'. If you don't like the direction these comics take, or if you choose to dislike them based on nothing more than your assumptions about what they will be like, you can just choose to not read them and your throat will remain magically uncrammed and your Warhammer lore will remain a sparkling gem of purity.

There were 40k comics before. Dan Abnett even wrote some of them. I don't remember any of them being any good. And it's been a couple years since last I was reading comic books, but at least back then Marvel comics were mostly pretty terrible. So I don't have high hopes.

 insaniak wrote:
Except this is a complete fallacy and not an actual counter to anything he said.



Unless Marvel representatives are showing up at your house, strapping you to a chair and forcing you at gunpoint to read these comics, nothing in them is being 'crammed down your throat'.

credit me with some intelligence my friend. It is an expression, I don't expect them to actually put a comic book down my throat, just for them to seek to evangelize even in art intended to be recreation.

 insaniak wrote:

 Dranu wrote:
This is terrible news. Marvel and Disney will make 40k a happy-go-lucky thing or cram politics down our throats now.

Or you could just, I don't know, not read these comics...?

Whether you read Attack of the Necron and Secrets of the Tau or not, we still have three year olds building their own bionic arms, and human children piloting Tau battlesuits.

Just because I didn't see the car crash, that doesn't mean that it didn't happen.