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Dark Eldar:

Winged Archon
Archon on a Skyboard
Archon on a Bike
Archon on a Chariot
Incubus Lord
Incubus Lord on a Chariot
Incubus Lord on a Skyboard
Succubus on a Skyboard
Succubus on a Bike
Haemonculus with wings
Haemonculus in giant torture device battle suit
Dark Eldar Assassin (not a mandrake)
Incubi on Skyboards
Incubus Chariot
Incubi on Bikes
Wraith Knight sized Incubus samurai warsuit.
Blood Brides
Dracons
True Born (that come stock with ghost plate armour and shard carbines)
Plastic Grotesques
Plastic Mandrakes
Kabalite heavy weapons team
Vect and all other special characters back
Dias of Destruction

Eldar:

All plastic Aspect warriors and Phoenix Lords
Close combat Warp Spiders with 6 arms wielding power blades.


Hellion Chariot

Necrons. New rules for gauss flayers to make them more effective send reflect the fact they're supposed to be Incredibly advanced technologically. Maybe variable fire rules that let them fire as assault, rapid fire or heavy weapons.

Tesla weapon hits explode on a natural 6 regardless of to hit mods.

More wargear in general including some form of grenades for warriors.

A few options for scarabs.

Make the damn annihilation barge more effective.

More variety in crypteks.

More options for tomb spyders including more anti psyker defense and better defenses.

Maybe bring back pariahs if no other psyker defenses are added.

Replace the damned d6 shots/d6 dam on the DDA with 2d3.

In general I think necrons should be equal to marines.

Spoletta wrote:
Hmm, honestly apart from finally getting a pyrovore model (no, i don't consider that warp spawned phallic imitation a miniature), i don't see a lot of stuff that Tyranids need. They are complete, everything new would feel exactly like every new marine model, tacked on.

What i would like for tyranids is a redesign around a concept based on lots of wounds and extremely high T (9 and 10) with low or no saves. We don't have a faction in the game with that combination of stats, and the economy of the game requires some T9 and T10.

Right now organic beasts are exactly identical to mechanical tanks stat wise.

I like the high T idea, you'd want to make it T10 at least to double S5. A big Tyranid monster, or just a superCarnifex would be cool.

 Overread wrote:
The problem with any mercenary system is Tyranids are left out almost entirely. Also I think 40K would benefit greatly from adapting AoS's style of army building and alliances and such. It allows for free form alliances, themed alliances, mercenaries and also caps them so that pure armies are not overrun with "souped min-max" forces.

Esp since in 40K there is an insane bias for any alliance system for the Marine/Imperial based factions who have loads of sub groups and armies to pick from. It's a case of extremes - at the one end Imperials at the other Tyranids.

I was sitting back and thinking about this last night, and maybe they could do something like the Zoats/genstealer idea. Tyranid unit that goes into other cultures and gives information back to the hivemind or genestealers.
Something like a mercenary, it can be used by tau, Inquisitors and orks.
But when used with genestealers and tyranids, it counts as one of there models for all rules.
Have a second one that works with dark elder that has it in for necrons and i think it can even be a interesting narrative hook point.
Never more than a unit of 3 and have them sent out long in advance, Data collection maybe even not knowing of there own origin to try and integrate them better.
It feels like the kinda thing the Tyranids would do, and if they have eldar DNA anyway. It could just use a more modified version, and one of them could be a way to give psychics to Tau. They have a use for them, and they do not know the danger they cause.

How about anything other than imperial? As much as I love my Salamanders, for cryin out loud, hook players up with something. Banshees & etc are an "OK" start. now what about orks, & nids, & T'au(I shudder at the utterance), & maybe an entirely new faction/race?

Every "non" marine release shouldn't be overshadowed by good marine, bad marine stuff. space it out w some AOS or Necro/Titanicus/etc love or something.

Necron Lord 4 versions.
Necron Overlord 2 versions.
Cryptek 1 version.
Transcendent C'tan 1 posable version.

Orbital Bombardment Stratagem, bonus WL trait Stratagem.

More rules for Crypteks, don't care what form it takes, the more the better.

Monoliths, Night Scythes, Obelisks and Canoptek Spyders really need new datasheets, they're all trash but that's not really the reason, I think their rules are wonky. I'd like Spyders to be HQ and Monoliths LoW, it's a low priority thing that'd be neat rather than something Necrons need and a large amount of people would probably dislike or even hate it, so maybe not.

Annihilation Barges, Doom Scythes and/or Tesseract Vaults could be updated alongside the Obelisk and Nightscythe to give S7 tesla weapons D2 but I'm not married to that change. A rework of Gauss or just a Stratagem or Dynastic Code to improve low-level Gauss against vehicles. That along with a rework of Reanimation Protocols which is a failure of a rule would be something for an entirely new codex which is probably pretty far out on the timetable, while updating four datasheets and getting a few specialist detachments is largely realistic in the the next year I think, maybe? I have no doubt they won't deliver these changes, but instead of whatever gak they plan to give us in terms of rules, they could give us this.

Yay wishlisting!!!

Fo Eldar I would like to see the following:

Plastic Aspect Warriors (All plastic aspects mind)- Goes without saying...

Return of the autarch variation - Warp pack, wings, foot, bike and options for all of the aspect war gear ala index.

Space Pirate elves
Dino/Space beast riding elfs
Wraith construct beast/creature entity

Always fun to see Xenos love and wishlisting.

I will only want to wishlist new stuff. Recasting old miniatures is a must, but I’m focusing on completely new stuff.

- Ork Skarboys: I for one still like the old Ork models, but having a new kit with skarboyz would be a nice addition.

- Ork freebooterz: a new army featuring the outcast of Ork society would be lovely. Grot Rebels, Ork genestealer cultists, Khornate Stormboyz, mutants, and plain Ork renegades. We know they exist.

- Eldar Exodites: they are such an underrated part of the setting and could add so much. Cavalry in the form of Reptilian riders and some new eldar knights. Remember the eldar centaur knight?

- Chaos Eldar: they are a thing in the setting and this picture with that one inquisitor immediately sells me on their concept. Though I might see why others wouldn’t want their inclusion


-new Tau auxiliaries: Nicassar, Demiurg, Tarellians. Heck, even Human auxiliaries I would welcome. If the psychic awakening is adding something to the Tau. I’m hoping it is one of these races.

-new Drukhari mercenaries and beasts: give the Drukhari beastmasters some more animals to play with, like the Barghesi, or you could even add the Ambull as a new beast for the Dark Eldar to play with. I would also love to see more mercenaries like the Sslyth joining an Archon’s coven.

- Just more Xeons species in general: with the coming of Blackstone Fortress, I’m quite hopeful that we will see more Xenos in different forms, both as player characters and enemies to fight. Hrud, Slaugth, Q’Orl, Rak’Gol... anything is possible.

Tyranid vore kit that makes pyrovore/biovore/psychic-vore depending on parts.

Out of interest, which Codexes haven't seen a model released for them this edition at all? Either with the book, in Kill Team, or so far in PA?

Off the top of my head I don't recall anything for the Tyranids, Imperial Guard or the Tau so far. I think the Webway Gate came out alongside the Harlequins, but if I got that wrong, then they're on the list as well.

Not sure about Thousand Sons, though they did inherit some options from AoS. Grey Knights technically got solo Voldus, but I think it's a bit mean to count a rerelease as a new release.

Did Deathwatch get a splash release of Intercessors with a Deathwatch upgrade sprue?

SoB haven't had anything yet but that changes next month (and they technically haven't got a Codex yet, so...)

Guard got Severina Raine

Apple fox wrote:

 Overread wrote:
The problem with any mercenary system is Tyranids are left out almost entirely. Also I think 40K would benefit greatly from adapting AoS's style of army building and alliances and such. It allows for free form alliances, themed alliances, mercenaries and also caps them so that pure armies are not overrun with "souped min-max" forces.

Esp since in 40K there is an insane bias for any alliance system for the Marine/Imperial based factions who have loads of sub groups and armies to pick from. It's a case of extremes - at the one end Imperials at the other Tyranids.

I was sitting back and thinking about this last night, and maybe they could do something like the Zoats/genstealer idea. Tyranid unit that goes into other cultures and gives information back to the hivemind or genestealers.
Something like a mercenary, it can be used by tau, Inquisitors and orks.
But when used with genestealers and tyranids, it counts as one of there models for all rules.
Have a second one that works with dark elder that has it in for necrons and i think it can even be a interesting narrative hook point.
Never more than a unit of 3 and have them sent out long in advance, Data collection maybe even not knowing of there own origin to try and integrate them better.
It feels like the kinda thing the Tyranids would do, and if they have eldar DNA anyway. It could just use a more modified version, and one of them could be a way to give psychics to Tau. They have a use for them, and they do not know the danger they cause.

I don't see why you can't have genestealer hybrid infested IG units as allies in a tyranids army.


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One rule i'd like to see for necrons is if a deathmark scores a wound on a psyker with his rifle and the psyker survives his difficulty of using psy powers goes up by one for every wound he takes.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Guard got Severina Raine

Good point, well made.

Thinking of that sort of special release model, Sly Marbo's resculpt was this edition, wasn't it? Man, my memory is becoming a memory...

Marbo was at the tail end of 7th, I think, which is why I didn't mention him.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Marbo was at the tail end of 7th, I think, which is why I didn't mention him.

Nope, Marbo's release was well into 8th.

I would like to see for the Orks

Deffcopters to get a new kit with extra guns to be able to customize them.

Kammandos

Tankbustas

And a new kit so either ard boyz or skar boyz could be made

And bring back boarz so the snakebites can have some flavor.

A plastic squiggoth would be great.


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They won't do it in a million years. Bring back the Squats and give them a heavy mining theme. Genestealers C uh lots can be their primary opponents.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Marbo was at the tail end of 7th, I think, which is why I didn't mention him.

Nope, Marbo's release was well into 8th.

So 8th had twice as many IG releases as I remembered, neat.

Guard and Tyranids also got some releases in the tail end of 7th IIRC. So yeah Tau are due a new toy.

I really want plastic Kroot- all existing units plus knarloc and greater gnarloc. Give them 1 or two additional characters, incorporate Blackstone Dayak Grehk and give them a dex; better yet, do it as a supplement of Tau 2.0, which would mean a vespid expansion too.

I want a five member pastic Jokaero box for a kill team, but I know that's a ridiculous wish that will never come true.

More than anything? A plastic Keradruahk to go with plastic mandrakes; I will not be satisfied with anything less than the four armed Decapitator atop his pile of skulls.

Vect and the Dias of Destuction.

The court of the archon done right; a box of plastic models with two builds for each creature type, and rules that allow you to field more than four in a detachment.

I like Baron Sathonyx, and I'd like the beasts done in plastic as Blackstone releases.

Lady Malys could have cool poison synergies with the Lhamaeans in her court.

Sliscuss would work as part of a Corsairs release.

I miss the old Harlequin walkers- wraith lords with masks on their domes; I miss the sculpted mask canopies for Harlequin jetbikes too.

An actual Ynarri troops choice- perhaps a new Aspect Shrine founded by the Visarch. The warriors of this Aspect would be troops choices in Ynarri detachments or elites for DE or CWE detachments. This would let Ynarri be a thing without relying so much on stealing other units. This would help allay fears that beloved DE or CWE units will be "lost" to the Ynarri.

I'm all in favour of a new Kroot Merc book, btw - but any plastic Vulture kit must include an optional fez, for obvious reasons.

Looking at the ranges, Craftworld Eldar seems to need the update the most (which is weird, because they have always been a studio favourite).
So I would start with them, updating the various finecast kits and giving other areas of the range a facelift.
Once that was done, I feel most of the Xenos races are pretty complete.
I would really like to see the introduction of a minifaction of some new Xenos threat, just to have more cool alien miniatures on the market.

BrianDavion wrote:
Guard and Tyranids also got some releases in the tail end of 7th IIRC. So yeah Tau are due a new toy.

The last new Tyranid model released was the resculpt of the broodlord in December 2014, as part of the Deathstorm box. It was later re-released as a single model in 2016, but I wouldn't say that counts.

Arson Fire wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
Guard and Tyranids also got some releases in the tail end of 7th IIRC. So yeah Tau are due a new toy.

The last new Tyranid model released was the resculpt of the broodlord in December 2014, as part of the Deathstorm box. It was later re-released as a single model in 2016, but I wouldn't say that counts.

I'm curious - what did the Guard get in late 7th? I remember the Hydra/Wyvern with the last IG 'dex, but I thought that was early 7th.

I can't remember either. The only 7th ed releases I can think of are.

Plastic Commissar
Plastic Scions
Taurox
Plastic Ogryns/Bullgryns
Hydra/Wyvern

Arson Fire wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
Guard and Tyranids also got some releases in the tail end of 7th IIRC. So yeah Tau are due a new toy.

The last new Tyranid model released was the resculpt of the broodlord in December 2014, as part of the Deathstorm box. It was later re-released as a single model in 2016, but I wouldn't say that counts.

damn was it that long ago, seems like only yesterday shield of baal came out, and thats right Tau got some new kits in 2015.

Eldar got a pretty sizeable update in 6th edition, it was just new stuff instead of revamped old stuff. (in fact in 6th they got MORE mini's then vanilla marines. according to this lsit I've found)

It only goes up to mid-2016, but here is a pretty nice timeline of releases all the way back to rogue trader.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?297915-Games-Workshop-40K-Release-Timeline-(Mk-II)&s=43a19113a1a1d1ec5cd817b996dc5239&p=5406149&mode=linear#post5406149

Arson Fire wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
Guard and Tyranids also got some releases in the tail end of 7th IIRC. So yeah Tau are due a new toy.

The last new Tyranid model released was the resculpt of the broodlord in December 2014, as part of the Deathstorm box. It was later re-released as a single model in 2016, but I wouldn't say that counts.

Toxicrene/Maleceptor, Zoanthrope/Venomthrope, and the Sporocysts/Tyrannocytes was the "new releases" in 2014.

regarding 'nids what I'd like to see is some terrain, we know when Tyranids attack a world they start terraforming it to digest it with all sorts of capiliary towers etc I've always thought this would make for fantastic terrain kits

How about the Burna for FSE crisis suits? A flamer when shooting, and a power weapon when they don't, like the burna boys had in 6th/7th..

Actually, if this route works, how about unique wargear options for each Sept?

A new Ghazskull model.

VEct on the Dais of Destruction as a LoW option

Wouldn't mind seeing a new Harlequins unit, maybe a flyer of some sort