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They read, in order of appearance....

Ludwig XII

Sigismund

Wilhelm I

Margarita VI

That’s.....historyhammer. I’m sure that The Four Emperors?

"It’s still early days for the Old World project, but it’s great to see things already starting to come together! Over the coming months, we’ll keep you up to date with news from the project as it continues to take shape, including the lore, art, rules, and eventually… new models."

Hmmmmmmm... This pleases me greatly.

Huh. I hadn't realized how much I missed those maps, and proper maps (with a feeling that someone could live there) in general.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They read, in order of appearance....

Ludwig XII

Sigismund

Wilhelm I

Margarita VI

That’s.....historyhammer. I’m sure that The Four Emperors?

Huh, I guess its going to predate the Warhammer we know. Well, that's one way of making new models to sell.
Does that count as Warhammer Historical

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They read, in order of appearance....

Ludwig XII

Sigismund

Wilhelm I

Margarita VI

That’s.....historyhammer. I’m sure that The Four Emperors?

Huh, I guess its going to predate the Warhammer we know. Well, that's one way of making new models to sell.
Does that count as Warhammer Historical

Too bad means high elves are long way off if ever but knew that from get go. But first hint about game

I don't see how. There were still elves in the world back then, just not as we know them.

Ditto with lizards and orcs. Not sure about Vampire counts though. I think the Von Carsteins were after those Emperors?

Focus will likely be with the 4 emperors. Period was likely chosen precisely to cut amount of stuff they need to release at once to manageable levels. Start with empire, then expand with say orcs and chaos. High elves didn't play part in 4 emperor thing.

You think thev will release like 50+ kits at once?

tneva82 wrote:
Focus will likely be with the 4 emperors. Period was likely chosen precisely to cut amount of stuff they need to release at once to manageable levels. Start with empire, then expand with say orcs and chaos. High elves didn't play part in 4 emperor thing.

You think thev will release like 50+ kits at once?

Alright, that's a fair point. I'm not sure one would even be able to use one's army anyway, if its set during a different time frame. I think only lizardmen would get to use their old roster, because those guys never change, irrc.

I want them to do The Sundering and the War of the Beard Now.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I don't see how. There were still elves in the world back then, just not as we know them.

Ditto with lizards and orcs. Not sure about Vampire counts though. I think the Von Carsteins were after those Emperors?

The First Vampire War was definitely within that general era, though quite a ways towards the end, so one should hope they are present in the game (for the sake of new models, if nothing else)

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Eiríkr wrote:
Cartography in the Old World

The heraldic shields confuse me.
They look bretonnian, but they are in Imperial lands. Not sure what's going on there.

The Empire heraldry book has a lot of stuff like that in it.
Empire did have a lot of it, particularly in their history, as it seems this setting may be.

I’d be pretty happy with that. We could work forward in the timeline.

Ohh thats a pretty map

Isn't it "Age of Three Emperors"? I haven't heard of "Age of Four Emperors" cant find anything online about it?

But basically what I predicted - the game does not appear set in the "Old World" during the End Times or just prior to it, but rather an even earlier era so as to limit the range of factions and the focus/scope of the game to humans specifically. I'm sure we'll get other factions eventually, but I wouldn't expect them on release based on this.

the overall period is called Age of 3 Emperors, lasting 700 years, ending 2300 with Magnus
the specific timeframe of 1980 to 2010 is also referred as Age of 4 Emperors, while technical there were 5 as Vlad also proclaimed himself Emperor

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Focus will likely be with the 4 emperors. Period was likely chosen precisely to cut amount of stuff they need to release at once to manageable levels. Start with empire, then expand with say orcs and chaos. High elves didn't play part in 4 emperor thing.

You think thev will release like 50+ kits at once?

Alright, that's a fair point. I'm not sure one would even be able to use one's army anyway, if its set during a different time frame. I think only lizardmen would get to use their old roster, because those guys never change, irrc.

Tomb Kings will be fine.

I am 100% on board for Age of Three Emperors, but I hope they don't linger there too long given that essentially rules out participation by Chorfs, High Elves, Dark Elves(mostly), Tomb Kings, and probably Ogre Kingdoms as well. Even Vampire Counts as they existed in WHFB are a bit of a stretch since ol' Vlad was still pretending to be a living Elector Count at that stage.

 Geifer wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Focus will likely be with the 4 emperors. Period was likely chosen precisely to cut amount of stuff they need to release at once to manageable levels. Start with empire, then expand with say orcs and chaos. High elves didn't play part in 4 emperor thing.

You think thev will release like 50+ kits at once?

Alright, that's a fair point. I'm not sure one would even be able to use one's army anyway, if its set during a different time frame. I think only lizardmen would get to use their old roster, because those guys never change, irrc.

Tomb Kings will be fine.

Oh yeah, Tomb Kings would be fine too. Those guys really don't change

Yeah, was wrong on the names. Not even the same three as The Three Emperors.

Wonder where this is going. Possibly a World That Was that found a different fate, and these are the competitors for a fallen Franz’s throne?

That could be cool.

GW need to do a mea culpa for all of the fans they pissed off by blowing up the old world. An alternate timeline where that didn't happen would be a good place to start

Looking at how well AoS is doing, I think that’s a slim hope. Other than this whole project.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They read, in order of appearance....

Ludwig XII

Sigismund

Wilhelm I

Margarita VI

That’s.....historyhammer. I’m sure that The Four Emperors?

Wasn’t Magritta of Marienburg famously one of the claimants when Mordheim was destroyed? I seem to remember from the background of that game that part of the reason for the antagonism between the mercenaries from the various provinces was that Marienburg, Middenland and Reikland all had a claimant to the throne at the time?

In other words, is this about a new version of Mordheim instead of Warhammer proper? Or did they simply set the new Warhammer in that time to more easily accommodate Mordheim as the skirmish variant?

That might be why the name rings a bell. Will need to dig out my Mordheim book (which I totally remembered I’ve not read for like, 10 years) to check the number. Could be an ancestor?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Looking at how well AoS is doing, I think that’s a slim hope. Other than this whole project.

While I agree it's very unlikely it's also a small gesture that would go a long way.

Welcome back, old friend

Interested to see where this goes. Historyhammer is probably a smart angle for them, although I'm still desperate to see some old favourites get new models (Malekith pls)

Solland is on the map, saw someone saying on the Facebook group that these are the names that coincide with WAAAGH Gorbad Ironclaw.

As someone wanting a mini of Genevieve and new ones of gotrek, Felix, ulrica, the fey enchantress, malus darkblade.

Being set in that time period would be disappointing.....

Regardless of what the project is or winds up being - that is a beautiful map.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I don't see how. There were still elves in the world back then, just not as we know them.

Ditto with lizards and orcs. Not sure about Vampire counts though. I think the Von Carsteins were after those Emperors?

The First Vampire War was definitely within that general era, though quite a ways towards the end, so one should hope they are present in the game (for the sake of new models, if nothing else)

They can easily expand game into other periods to bring dwarves and high elves with war of the beard etc. So it's not like this will 100% lock others out forever. But I think it's going to start small scale and build up there. FW went with horus heresy for AT to keep number of kits needed at once down but for example the beast series could be used to bring ork gargants to the game later.

I sooooo would love to see war of the beard! That and high elves vs dark elves are two of my favourite pieces of fluff from old world.

The map is indeed beautiful. This leads me to believe this is a historical game, which falls in line with Horus Heresy comparisons that we have been given.

Which also means you aren't getting all your races fellas. It'll be limited to whoever matters in this timeframe.

Well, all the races were present at that time. Which arguably was a weakness of the setting.

But now there’s a clearly defined End Of Things, a sort of retrospective release, where we as players get to delve into things.