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2019/11/21 12:20:10
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Krazy Grot Kutta Driva
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Did I read this right....Marines get point drops??? 
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2019/11/21 12:23:03
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Fixture of Dakka
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Its going to be Legends for sure, this book might be pretty big actually if they put all the legends datasheets in them and 1 more points change. We are talking about 40-50 datasheets (thats also FW) some of them might not make it to legends tho right away. I'm guess about 70% of them will at least. Having 2 datasheets per page, we are looking at 10+ pages just for datasheets IF they do what i think they are going to do.
I'm honestly wait to see what happens to legends, its the only thing i want to know about. I'm on the fence of 40k as it is (so much AoS lately)
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2019/11/21 12:30:45
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm not clicking that. :p
Care to rehost on imgur?
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2019/11/21 12:35:14
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Is it worth it buying the first and second CA now ?
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2019/11/21 12:35:27
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2019/11/21 12:44:00
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Not Online!!! wrote:tneva82 wrote:BrianDavion wrote:from the red gobbo post on WHC
"Da Red Gobbo will be joined by other Warhammer Legends this December, alongside the release of Chapter Approved 2019, where rules for other venerable denizens of the far future whose miniatures are no longer available will find their permanent home."
thus I suspect the hook will be legends data sheets for stuff thats currently not been given rules.
Pretty sure Legends has been said to be oniine so that would be related more to when.
As for ca19 hook points. Gw needs nothing else to sell book
This here, no need for a hook if you hold a mandatory balance patch hostage.
As if the points updates don't get leaked a month in advance of the book and appear on Battlescribe within a week...god damn, folks are melodramatic.
The only reason I've ever purchased a CA was to get the Cities of Death rules in CA2018, which alongside the new eternal war missions were more than worth the price to me.
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2019/11/21 12:44:27
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Well, that would get ugly damn fast
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/11/21 12:47:56
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2019/11/21 12:50:46
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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With pricehike.
Which considering the allready steep pries on some cult marines is, off puting depending on the hike.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/11/21 12:52:27
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Douglasville, GA
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Bear in mind that these are rumors, so maybe don't take them as gospel just yet.
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2019/11/21 12:53:24
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There seems to be some disagreements in the various wish-lists regarding point drops for Cultists vs. point-hike for Guardsmen as well as points for other CSM units though.
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2019/11/21 12:56:14
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yea the salt in that list if its true, holy gak. I doubt it though, because there have been a lot of contradicting rumors before this.
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2019/11/21 13:00:15
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well this is certainly going to be entertaining to watch.
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2019/11/21 13:02:05
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sunny Side Up wrote:
There seems to be some disagreements in the various wish-lists regarding point drops for Cultists vs. point-hike for Guardsmen as well as points for other CSM units though.
This is the episode with TJ Lannigan (he's the source). Great listen, too, if you want to hear how Magnus can take on the current marines and reach top tables.
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2019/11/21 13:06:00
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Whatever is in CA19, I'm sure it will already be out of date because it's written so far in advance that it will adjust things that were "meta" 6 months ago and totally ignore what's meta now.
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2019/11/21 13:06:05
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cool. I'll give it a listen.
Chaos and Slaanesh rumours just have been a bit crazy this year, lol. I could almost swear some of those go back all the way to 6th Edition Slaanesh Daemonkin rumours after the Khorne Daemonkin dropped.
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2019/11/21 13:06:39
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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If that get's in that way, AND GW seriously fethed up this badly, then god forbid anyone not playing marines to run into one.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/11/21 13:08:50
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Lethal Lhamean
Birmingham
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I'm calling BS on this, we know from last year that any codex released after April 1st will not get any points changes other than wargear that can be found in other codexes. See the Drukhari codex, released 2 weeks after Tau and on the first weekend of April but wasn't included in CA2018.
As for those that don't buy CA for the points and just rely on Battlescribe, thats asking for trouble, the last two CA's have shown that we spend several weeks trying to deal with mistakes for everyfaction as points changes have been missed or incorrectly implemented to the files.
Looking forward to what they'll be doing for the missions, the current ones are quite fun and for the most part fairly balanced.
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2019/11/21 13:41:58
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
Somerdale, NJ, USA
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I hope that AdMech rumor is either false or they buff Canticles along with it...
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2019/11/21 14:03:54
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
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Only thing I want is to make Landraiders cost about 200pts.
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2019/11/21 14:07:11
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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I hope that AdMech rumor is bogus or includes Questor Mechanicus. Not being able to include Imperial Knights with AdMech will kill the faction.
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2019/11/21 14:08:55
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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That would be nice they are way overpriced now.
I would like to see the stormsurge buffed or get a sizable point drop, it’s just so bad.
Crisis suits need a hefty point drop.
Commander limits for Tau should be gone, just say they can only have 3 not one per detachment.
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Blood for the bloo... wait no, I meant for Sanguinius!  |
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2019/11/21 14:09:50
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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To the OP's question...
I hope we get an updated Planetary Onslaught from just before 7th editions exit. IMO, arguably the best book GW has ever made.
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2019/11/21 14:25:58
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Seriously, people get way to upset about this little piece of trolling.
Did GW for some curious reason publish separate/different point values for Orks in the fall 2018 Codex and the CA 2018, just because? Or even for summer-releases like Drukhari or Knights?
I don't see why GW would take up that practice now.
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2019/11/21 14:30:41
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Obvious fake.
The fact that there are rule changes in there like "Eldar strat capped at -2" clearly marks it as a falied fake.
CA was never the place for fine targeted rule changes like that.
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2019/11/21 14:39:45
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Spoletta wrote:Obvious fake.
The fact that there are rule changes in there like "Eldar strat capped at -2" clearly marks it as a falied fake.
CA was never the place for fine targeted rule changes like that.
I tend to agree, but a couple datasheets have been updated in CA.
One thing to note: the previous CAs have been released a few months later than the respective codex for basically every army, so updating rules in CA19 or CA18 didn't make much sense.
One year later in the meta I can see that updating rules in CA19 may be a necessity, especially if there is no new Codex coming up anytime soon.
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2019/11/21 14:42:26
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Posts with Authority
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I don't place a lot of stock in "rumored changes", I do place some in rumored releases... more often that I should, because we damned sure didn't see new Primaris Black Templars and those Noise Marines haven't happened and they seem quite overdue.
My tinfoil hat theory is a lot of the bogus "rule/point change rumors" are just someone's wishful thinking.
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Mob Rule is not a rule. |
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2019/11/21 14:46:40
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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I bought the CAs for the missions (narrative and matched play), by far the best part of the books. I feel sorry for people in general who only ever play matched play (even worse, only ever play ITC) as there are some really fun ways to play 40K if you're open to it. If I look back on games played in my past, i generally have fonder memories of great narrative games over competitive, but that's just me.
People can play the way they like (I know time is very limited for some people), but I can tell you that you might be missing out a little if you haven't played a few narrative missions with some of those old models lamenting on your shelves.
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2019/11/21 15:46:52
Subject: The Hook of CA2019
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I really hope the 2W Cult Marine rumour is true, even with a 1-2ppm point increase, that would put them on par with Primaris Marines (well, before you factor in Traits, Strats and Combat Doctrines, at lease)
I'm also hoping for 11ppm Chaos Marines. Tac Marines at 12ppm feels right given all the extra rules they have, but for CSM and even SW, DA & BA that do not have Combat Docs, 11ppm is more appropriate.
It does seem like there is some contradiction on Cultists going back to 4ppm and/or Guardsmen goin to 5ppm. I hope both are true, but at the very least Cultists should never have been more points than Guardsmen
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2019/11/21 17:16:22
Subject: Re:The Hook of CA2019
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I would rather not see 2W cult troops. That would murder CSM even more than they already are. However, that may be the goal? Death Guard and Thousand Sons would become immensely better. They're both brand new model lines. Basic CSM would disappear from the face of the game, particularly if Cultists drop back down to 4 points (which they should).
I say this as a Renegade player who runs the occasional squad of Plague Marines. Seeing them boosted would murder any enthusiasm I have for putting normal CSMs on the table.
If GW is smart I do think they need to introduce a Doctrine style thing to all of the factions. The power gulf is too much at the moment with Space Marines head and shoulders above other factions. I'm not really even playing much any more, but the game needs some work, for sure.
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