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Unironically happy about additional options for my Primaris army.

Haters gonna hate.

*sighs audibly, bangs head on desk*

Will they at least give the bike-centric marine factions their characters back since they discontinued all the non-primaris ones? they do at least deserve that...

So at this point, I think it is pretty clear that GW is revamping the whole Space Marine line and is going to (eventually) squat all of the old stuff).

Also, I wish GW would give a quarter of the attention and love they lavish upon Space Marines to literally any other faction...

I think they need to give us infantry weapons before they get onto that. I mean, which genius thought "Yeah, Primaris, they're like Spase marines but without chainswords and powerfists and heavy bolters" was acceptable?

Oh boy, Space Marines were definitely starved for releases.

Even by GW's standards, they really pushing the Primaris line out of the door quick? I'd have expected them to try and drip feed a bit more, because at this rate they'll be introducing a new scale line of Ultdominris Primarx Marines in a few years.

Look forward to seeing what they come out with. Hopefully it will be more Mk X looking stuff. I'm not as big of a fan of the chunky gravis or tacticool phobos versions. Hopefully the individual kits will have more options for characters.

Bdrone wrote:
*sighs audibly, bangs head on desk*

Will they at least give the bike-centric marine factions their characters back since they discontinued all the non-primaris ones? they do at least deserve that...

White Scars supplement has rules for Khans on Bikes.

And let's not pretend that there were a whole slew of "bike-centric marine factions".
There is White Scars and Dark Angels. That's it.


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 Arbitrator wrote:
Oh boy, Space Marines were definitely starved for releases.

For all we know, this stuff wasn't coming out until after Psychic Awakening finished in the spring. And it's not like these things are restricted to just Codex Marines like it used to be.

Even by GW's standards, they really pushing the Primaris line out of the door quick? I'd have expected them to try and drip feed a bit more, because at this rate they'll be introducing a new scale line of Ultdominris Primarx Marines in a few years.

Nope, this is about on par with what happened with Stormcast. There was the initial batch of 'troops' with the initial push and the Extremis Chamber stuff, then halfway through AoS' lifespan we saw the Vanguard stuff added in and AoS2.0 dropped we got the Sacrosanct Chamber.

 Alpharius wrote:
The 'new' tank might just be the latest version of the Blood Angels only Baal Predator variant?

I would be grateful for some Primaris bikes to go with a Primaris Land Speeder.

I gave up on 40K Regular Marines a while ago.

But what I'd really like is some true dedicated assault marines for Primaris...

Seconded.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Bdrone wrote:
*sighs audibly, bangs head on desk*

Will they at least give the bike-centric marine factions their characters back since they discontinued all the non-primaris ones? they do at least deserve that...

White Scars supplement has rules for Khans on Bikes.

And let's not pretend that there were a whole slew of "bike-centric marine factions".
There is White Scars and Dark Angels. That's it.

there were still more options than that one. but thanks for pointing out i was still being to kind to this. welp, ill look on the bright side. even less to think about budgeting for.

 Arbitrator wrote:
Oh boy, Space Marines were definitely starved for releases.

Even by GW's standards, they really pushing the Primaris line out of the door quick? I'd have expected them to try and drip feed a bit more, because at this rate they'll be introducing a new scale line of Ultdominris Primarx Marines in a few years.

It's best to think of it as an entirely new army. It really is. You can just play with your old one until they declare you can't at this point. Primaris marines lack a lot of things actually. No flyer, no dedicated tank, only 1 super heavy. If you think about it that way. There really is no reason to complain.

 Xenomancers wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:
Oh boy, Space Marines were definitely starved for releases.

Even by GW's standards, they really pushing the Primaris line out of the door quick? I'd have expected them to try and drip feed a bit more, because at this rate they'll be introducing a new scale line of Ultdominris Primarx Marines in a few years.

It's best to think of it as an entirely new army. It really is. You can just play with your old one until they declare you can't at this point. Primaris marines lack a lot of things actually. No flyer, no dedicated tank, only 1 super heavy. If you think about it that way. There really is no reason to complain.

This completely valid and relevant point is pretty consistently ignored on this forum.

Bdrone wrote:

there were still more options than that one. but thanks for pointing out i was still being to kind to this. welp, ill look on the bright side. even less to think about budgeting for.

If you want bike characters that aren't Dark Angels or White Scars, go look up the "Legends" stuff on the Community page. It's free downloads.

And really, let's not pretend that these choices(Librarians and Chaplains) were super popular outside of tournament trash.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Bdrone wrote:

there were still more options than that one. but thanks for pointing out i was still being to kind to this. welp, ill look on the bright side. even less to think about budgeting for.

If you want bike characters that aren't Dark Angels or White Scars, go look up the "Legends" stuff on the Community page. It's free downloads.

And really, let's not pretend that these choices(Librarians and Chaplains) were super popular outside of tournament trash.

gods forbid someone wanting to run as close to pure bikes as possible could take them to tournaments or not have an extra hurtle to playing as they have been for years, whether or not it was "meta" (which i highly doubt)

but i will not pretend i actually care, because i don't like marines to begin with, i was just slotting that in as a favor to the folks who play those marines because they got slapped hardest by legends anyway. if i have to delay giving a crap about model releases next year as well, let it be something for ALL the power armored people at least, not a few. that includes the melee ones this time...

 Kanluwen wrote:


And really, let's not pretend that these choices(Librarians and Chaplains) were super popular outside of tournament trash.

They were fun. I had one of each and a techmarine on bike, all converted.

Let's not make this thread toxic guys and girls, some of the more potent radiation fuelled members of this forum are currently suspended for such behaviour.

Marines are a necessary evil, they bank roll many other units in other armies that probably make a small profit for GW if that.

Finally getting back into 40k this year, building a primaris army so I'm happy about this.

The only thing I don't like about primaris is chaos marines now, they need to equally be revamped nearly fully across the range and uniformly bought up to an appropriate size.

I also would like to see more mixing of older armour marks into the primaris range now. An updated version of II or III that acts as specialist breacher teams ets.

We also can not be far away from a dedicated elite assault unit now.

The only thing I don't like about primaris is chaos marines now, they need to equally be revamped nearly fully across the range and uniformly bought up to an appropriate size.

Haven't some already got a little scale up compared to their old counterparts? I know DG got a size bump.

 Xenomancers wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:
Oh boy, Space Marines were definitely starved for releases.

Even by GW's standards, they really pushing the Primaris line out of the door quick? I'd have expected them to try and drip feed a bit more, because at this rate they'll be introducing a new scale line of Ultdominris Primarx Marines in a few years.

It's best to think of it as an entirely new army. It really is. You can just play with your old one until they declare you can't at this point. Primaris marines lack a lot of things actually. No flyer, no dedicated tank, only 1 super heavy. If you think about it that way. There really is no reason to complain.

Several factions don't even have a super-heavy, let alone a non-FW one. Some don't have flyers. GSC don't have a dedicated tank either.

Removed - Rule #1 please

'Best to think of it as an entirely new army' is nonsense, because it's part of Codex: Space Marines, like it or not. Maybe if you were talking about Harlequins being spun-off from Eldar you'd have a point, but we're not.

 Nah Man Pichu wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
It's best to think of it as an entirely new army. It really is. You can just play with your old one until they declare you can't at this point. Primaris marines lack a lot of things actually. No flyer, no dedicated tank, only 1 super heavy. If you think about it that way. There really is no reason to complain.

This completely valid and relevant point is pretty consistently ignored on this forum.

As someone who plays a brand new army that came out before primaris, has had fewer releases, and has more holes in it's line than they do. Nah, there's reason to complain.

I kinda hope the Bikes are a melee unit (with twin bolt rifles on the bike, of course). Inceptors already do the same job as bikes (but better) and Primaris do not have a (fast) dedicated melee unit. Even better if you give them lances

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 Eldarsif wrote:
I know DG got a size bump.

The Mark of Nurgle will do that to a person...

YeOldSaltPotato wrote:

 Nah Man Pichu wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
It's best to think of it as an entirely new army. It really is. You can just play with your old one until they declare you can't at this point. Primaris marines lack a lot of things actually. No flyer, no dedicated tank, only 1 super heavy. If you think about it that way. There really is no reason to complain.

This completely valid and relevant point is pretty consistently ignored on this forum.

As someone who plays a brand new army that came out before primaris, has had fewer releases, and has more holes in it's line than they do. Nah, there's reason to complain.

Reason to complain? Yes.

But is it really reasonable to expect to get equivalent releases in the middle of the main fiction's revamping? Nah.

It's like being mad there's not more Ravenclaw characters in Harry Potter. You're allowed to like Ravenclaw, but you're nuts to think they'll ever come close to having the same amount of merch as Gryffindor

Ugh... I hope this is not happening...

If it has to happen it would be so nice if they could at least communicate projected date set for them to update the range.

So I know how long to take a break from 40k to save myself the frustration...

 Argive wrote:
Ugh... I hope this is not happening...

If it has to happen it would be so nice if they could at least communicate projected date set for them to update the range.

So I know how long to take a break from 40k to save myself the frustration...

Yes, it is indeed always terrible when they release awesome looking new models. I hate when that happens.

the_scotsman wrote:

 Nah Man Pichu wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
Guesses:

-$55 per model, at least.
-No fewer than five listed weapons (each will annoyingly be subtly different from every other version of the same weapon in the Space Marine codex)
-At least one will feature a "stubber" variant with no fewer than three adjectives preceding the word "stubber".
-Better in every way than the preceding landspeeder.

Light Heavy Leadstorm Stubber Rockets is the bit you can actually see at the back. They're actually cluster missiles built by Cawl for close-range aerial engagements, which is why they're angled toward one another - they're actually intended to hit each other about 20 yards ahead of the plane, creating a deadly stream of explosive shrapnel. As they fly through the air the Light Heavy Stubbers built in to the missiles fire, which are the same as regular heavy stubbers but they use the Assault instead of Heavy rules. They're also heavy 4, but on a 6 to hit they get to reroll a 1 to wound.

They're a really innovative addition to the primaris arsenal and i'm really excited for them. The homeruns just keep coming from Games Workshop!

Man, the rules leaking early really takes my enjoyment out of releases

You might want to go to the doctor, that was such a sarcastic joke I'm shocked you didnt taste the salt from your screen. Might have a problem :p

You might want to go to the doctor doctor, that was such a sarcastic joke response to the sarcastic joke I'm shocked you didn't taste the salt salt from your screen screen.

And you might want to go to the doctor doctor doctor! Or wait, maybe now I need to go to the doctor doctor doctor doctor? I can't tell anymore I'm so confused. Thanks alot Games Workshop. You owe me a sarcasm detector. Again.

 Nah Man Pichu wrote:
Reason to complain? Yes.

But is it really reasonable to expect to get equivalent releases in the middle of the main fiction's revamping? Nah.

It's like being mad there's not more Ravenclaw characters in Harry Potter. You're allowed to like Ravenclaw, but you're nuts to think they'll ever come close to having the same amount of merch as Gryffindor

Man, now I see why people get annoyed about being relegated to NPC status, you're literally doing it here.

The last thing space marines need is even more models, they need half the codex excised so that units actually have purposes. The book is so bloated and sad that actual interesting new units are more or less impossible so they're just tossing more guns on floaty things.

Now, if next edition all the old marines are suddenly out of the codex. Yeah, sure, fill the last couple holes and please don't re-bloat the codex. But right now there's literally nothing that can even remotely rival the favored status of space marines, not in models, not in rules, and certainly not on the basis of being 'brand new'. How in the hell is the setting supposed to stay interesting if NOTHING rivals them? Way things are going you'd think space marines out number the militarum.


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 Galef wrote:
I kinda hope the Bikes are a melee unit (with twin bolt rifles on the bike, of course). Inceptors already do the same job as bikes (but better) and Primaris do not have a (fast) dedicated melee unit. Even better if you give them lances

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Despite my moaning, give me jet bikes with lances and I might well be in. May as well pick the winning side eventually right?

 Crimson wrote:

 Argive wrote:
Ugh... I hope this is not happening...

If it has to happen it would be so nice if they could at least communicate projected date set for them to update the range.

So I know how long to take a break from 40k to save myself the frustration...

Yes, it is indeed always terrible when they release awesome looking new models. I hate when that happens.

Yes it is indeed terrible when they release awesome looking models for factions me and my mates don't play. Again.. and again.. aaand again...
Coz you know.. I wont buy them and then look at bunch of fine cast garbage available to me.

Aren't we not even done with the most recent marine release? Didn't Primaris get the most recent release anyway?

Good lord. The marine fatigue is real.

 Crimson wrote:
Yes, it is indeed always terrible when they release awesome looking new models.

They're replacing the 21 year old Vyper sculpt?

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Yes, it is indeed always terrible when they release awesome looking new models.

They're replacing the 21 year old Vyper sculpt?

Shut up NPC.... How dare you want things.

moving away from the anti-marine whining that invariably infests these threads (and have gotten people banned for being excessive about it just recently) a friend whom I showed the pic to made an intreasting observation, he said the tank vaguely reminds him of the old de-oderant tank.