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What's your stance about Assault Marines deploying via Thunderhawk? Should they require this gunship as a model too?
The Thunderhawk doesn't land on the table, it probably doesn't even come near the table surface, the marines just jump off it from high altitude. Note how I don't expect the Strike Cruiser that launches the Drop Pods to have a model either.
This is the same company that produced a scaled down BFG model to represent the ability for a Chaos vessel to enter high altitude and do a bombardment in Epic.
Wait, what?
One of the Epic Armageddon Chaos Lists had rules for the Devastation Class providing orbital support and there's slightly different from BFG scale version of the ship for it. It's rare, but they pop up on eBay from time to time.
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What's your stance about Assault Marines deploying via Thunderhawk? Should they require this gunship as a model too?
The Thunderhawk doesn't land on the table, it probably doesn't even come near the table surface, the marines just jump off it from high altitude. Note how I don't expect the Strike Cruiser that launches the Drop Pods to have a model either.
This is the same company that produced a scaled down BFG model to represent the ability for a Chaos vessel to enter high altitude and do a bombardment in Epic.
Wait, what?
One of the Epic Armageddon Chaos Lists had rules for the Devastation Class providing orbital support and there's slightly different from BFG scale version of the ship for it. It's rare, but they pop up on eBay from time to time.
One of the Epic Armageddon Chaos Lists had rules for the Devastation Class providing orbital support and there's slightly different from BFG scale version of the ship for it. It's rare, but they pop up on eBay from time to time.
The original black legion and chaos cult lists produced by GW didn’t have model pictures. And the devstation class was a plastic cruiser and I can tell you they didn’t produce any alt version of it for Epic. They barely put out any models for Chaos.. Chances are you either saw a fan made list or saw the cruiser with the Dæmonship upgrade.
Yeah man, Aggressors are totally different than terminators. Aggressors put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee, while terminators put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee but hold the bolt shot weapon in ONE HAND and the powerfist in the OTHER HAND.
Aggressors just don't look terminatory enough. Gravis is just a bit bulkier power armour. Yes, currently they're mechanically similar, but if terminators are redesigned, they don't need to be. I think terminators have lacked a clear role for a while. I think their role should be monster hunters. Super tough elite guys that go against all the big critters , robots etc. Hulkbusters. They should look bulky and imposing and have hard hitting but short ranged/melee weapons.
...you do realize you just described Assault Centurions, right?
Yeah man, Aggressors are totally different than terminators. Aggressors put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee, while terminators put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee but hold the bolt shot weapon in ONE HAND and the powerfist in the OTHER HAND.
Aggressors just don't look terminatory enough. Gravis is just a bit bulkier power armour. Yes, currently they're mechanically similar, but if terminators are redesigned, they don't need to be. I think terminators have lacked a clear role for a while. I think their role should be monster hunters. Super tough elite guys that go against all the big critters , robots etc. Hulkbusters. They should look bulky and imposing and have hard hitting but short ranged/melee weapons.
...you do realize you just described Assault Centurions, right?
No, because they're hideous and stupid, instead these new terminators need to look cool and awesome. Furthermore, assault centurion have potent antihorde shooting, which is opposite of what I suggested. In close combat they certainly perform in similar manner than I'd expect from the updated terminators.
What's your stance about Assault Marines deploying via Thunderhawk? Should they require this gunship as a model too?
The Thunderhawk doesn't land on the table, it probably doesn't even come near the table surface, the marines just jump off it from high altitude. Note how I don't expect the Strike Cruiser that launches the Drop Pods to have a model either.
This is the same company that produced a scaled down BFG model to represent the ability for a Chaos vessel to enter high altitude and do a bombardment in Epic.
Wait, what?
One of the Epic Armageddon Chaos Lists had rules for the Devastation Class providing orbital support and there's slightly different from BFG scale version of the ship for it. It's rare, but they pop up on eBay from time to time.
Pictures or it didnt happen.
Google says this is one (from here), but I'm not sure -
I think I need to dig my copy of Epic Armageddon out, as i think the SM list had Strike Cruisers for orbital bombardment, but I can't remember how it worked.
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Yeah man, Aggressors are totally different than terminators. Aggressors put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee, while terminators put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee but hold the bolt shot weapon in ONE HAND and the powerfist in the OTHER HAND.
Aggressors just don't look terminatory enough. Gravis is just a bit bulkier power armour. Yes, currently they're mechanically similar, but if terminators are redesigned, they don't need to be. I think terminators have lacked a clear role for a while. I think their role should be monster hunters. Super tough elite guys that go against all the big critters , robots etc. Hulkbusters. They should look bulky and imposing and have hard hitting but short ranged/melee weapons.
...you do realize you just described Assault Centurions, right?
No, because they're hideous and stupid, instead these new terminators need to look cool and awesome. Furthermore, assault centurion have potent antihorde shooting, which is opposite of what I suggested. In close combat they certainly perform in similar manner than I'd expect from the updated terminators.
Ugly and stupid? Centurions?
[checks my collection]
No, they're still the same utterly fantastic Hulkbuster-esq models they were the last time I looked at them.
Seriously though, aesthetics aside Centurions can be armed for monster hunting instead of anti-horde work. Obviously it's not a super efficient loadout, but give them with Assault Launchers and Meltaguns and they're hideously effective at knocking down any big target you can deliver them to. They don't get armed that way because 8th favors hordes and they're a little too expensive to go full monster-hunter when they might not have any good targets that way.
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Yeah man, Aggressors are totally different than terminators. Aggressors put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee, while terminators put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee but hold the bolt shot weapon in ONE HAND and the powerfist in the OTHER HAND.
Aggressors just don't look terminatory enough. Gravis is just a bit bulkier power armour. Yes, currently they're mechanically similar, but if terminators are redesigned, they don't need to be. I think terminators have lacked a clear role for a while. I think their role should be monster hunters. Super tough elite guys that go against all the big critters , robots etc. Hulkbusters. They should look bulky and imposing and have hard hitting but short ranged/melee weapons.
...you do realize you just described Assault Centurions, right?
No, because they're hideous and stupid, instead these new terminators need to look cool and awesome. Furthermore, assault centurion have potent antihorde shooting, which is opposite of what I suggested. In close combat they certainly perform in similar manner than I'd expect from the updated terminators.
Ugly and stupid? Centurions?
[checks my collection]
No, they're still the same utterly fantastic Hulkbuster-esq models they were the last time I looked at them.
Seriously though, aesthetics aside Centurions can be armed for monster hunting instead of anti-horde work. Obviously it's not a super efficient loadout, but give them with Assault Launchers and Meltaguns and they're hideously effective at knocking down any big target you can deliver them to. They don't get armed that way because 8th favors hordes and they're a little too expensive to go full monster-hunter when they might not have any good targets that way.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and back on-topic: Games Day 2020 Primaris teaser count: zero.
These guys are not famous for being Hulkbusters but rather infamous for being Teletubbies. They are on the same level as Mutilators which isn't a good thing.
Yeah man, Aggressors are totally different than terminators. Aggressors put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee, while terminators put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee but hold the bolt shot weapon in ONE HAND and the powerfist in the OTHER HAND.
Aggressors just don't look terminatory enough. Gravis is just a bit bulkier power armour. Yes, currently they're mechanically similar, but if terminators are redesigned, they don't need to be. I think terminators have lacked a clear role for a while. I think their role should be monster hunters. Super tough elite guys that go against all the big critters , robots etc. Hulkbusters. They should look bulky and imposing and have hard hitting but short ranged/melee weapons.
...you do realize you just described Assault Centurions, right?
No, because they're hideous and stupid, instead these new terminators need to look cool and awesome. Furthermore, assault centurion have potent antihorde shooting, which is opposite of what I suggested. In close combat they certainly perform in similar manner than I'd expect from the updated terminators.
Ugly and stupid? Centurions?
[checks my collection]
No, they're still the same utterly fantastic Hulkbuster-esq models they were the last time I looked at them.
Seriously though, aesthetics aside Centurions can be armed for monster hunting instead of anti-horde work. Obviously it's not a super efficient loadout, but give them with Assault Launchers and Meltaguns and they're hideously effective at knocking down any big target you can deliver them to. They don't get armed that way because 8th favors hordes and they're a little too expensive to go full monster-hunter when they might not have any good targets that way.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and back on-topic: Games Day 2020 Primaris teaser count: zero.
These guys are not famous for being Hulkbusters but rather infamous for being Teletubbies. They are on the same level as Mutilators which isn't a good thing.
Do teletubbies mean something differant in german because there's no way you can look at
This
and see this
not unless you're high as a kite.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
Lemondish wrote: The problem I have with the Centurion is the absolute lack of logic around those chest hurricane bolters. The proportions there are super weird.
Look. It takes real dedication to become a Centurion! You need to saw off your arms first.
Lemondish wrote: The problem I have with the Centurion is the absolute lack of logic around those chest hurricane bolters. The proportions there are super weird.
Look. It takes real dedication to become a Centurion! You need to saw off your arms first.
Same basic surgery as it takes to wear Indomitus Terminator Armor...
H.B.M.C. wrote: It's an exoskeleton, not armour. The Marine is already in his armour. This is like a... Power Loader from Aliens. But with loads of guns.
Yes, guns instead of arms. There's no space for arms.
Let me put on my big, chunky armor. Ok, servants have been working on it for the best part of an hour, I'm finally ready. Now let's cram myself into a tiny-teeny space where I need to keep my arms crossed at all time, while driving an exoskeleton.
Sorry, even penitent engine aren't THAT level of silliness lol.
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Yeah man, Aggressors are totally different than terminators. Aggressors put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee, while terminators put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee but hold the bolt shot weapon in ONE HAND and the powerfist in the OTHER HAND.
Aggressors just don't look terminatory enough. Gravis is just a bit bulkier power armour. Yes, currently they're mechanically similar, but if terminators are redesigned, they don't need to be. I think terminators have lacked a clear role for a while. I think their role should be monster hunters. Super tough elite guys that go against all the big critters , robots etc. Hulkbusters. They should look bulky and imposing and have hard hitting but short ranged/melee weapons.
...you do realize you just described Assault Centurions, right?
No, because they're hideous and stupid, instead these new terminators need to look cool and awesome. Furthermore, assault centurion have potent antihorde shooting, which is opposite of what I suggested. In close combat they certainly perform in similar manner than I'd expect from the updated terminators.
Ugly and stupid? Centurions?
[checks my collection]
No, they're still the same utterly fantastic Hulkbuster-esq models they were the last time I looked at them.
Seriously though, aesthetics aside Centurions can be armed for monster hunting instead of anti-horde work. Obviously it's not a super efficient loadout, but give them with Assault Launchers and Meltaguns and they're hideously effective at knocking down any big target you can deliver them to. They don't get armed that way because 8th favors hordes and they're a little too expensive to go full monster-hunter when they might not have any good targets that way.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and back on-topic: Games Day 2020 Primaris teaser count: zero.
These guys are not famous for being Hulkbusters but rather infamous for being Teletubbies. They are on the same level as Mutilators which isn't a good thing.
Do teletubbies mean something differant in german because there's no way you can look at
This
and see this
not unless you're high as a kite.
Why did you post two totally identical pictures there? :p
1. Both designs have been conceptualized by 4-year-olds.
2. In both costumes is a guy who makes an utter fool of himself by being stuck in an unnecessary piece of armour like the actors do when performing in front of their childish audience.
3. The Teletubbies come in different colours just like the SM chapters.
If this doesn't satisfy you then perhaps a comparison with a Matryoshka doll will suffice.
You have a power armored guy which is stuck in another suit while those Russian dolls incorporate several smaller dolls GW only scratched the surface here and I am sure Primaris will get the proper Matryoshka treatment in 2020 which houses a suit in a suit in a suit.
Marines don't hide in "METAL BAWKSES" anymore. They do so in ill-fitting unnecessary suits.
1. Both designs have been conceptualized by 4-year-olds.
2. In both costumes is a guy who makes an utter fool of himself by being stuck in an unnecessary piece of armour like the actors do when performing in front of their childish audience.
3. The Teletubbies come in different colours just like the SM chapters.
If this doesn't satisfy you then perhaps a comparison with a Matryoshka doll will suffice.
You have a power armored guy which is stuck in another suit while those Russian dolls incorporate several smaller dolls GW only scratched the surface here and I am sure Primaris will get the proper Matryoshka treatment in 2020 which houses a suit in a suit in a suit.
Marines don't hide in "METAL BAWKSES" anymore. They do so in ill-fitting unnecessary suits.
in other words you're trying to be "kewl" by tossing out insults. If you wanna bash centurions fine, but try and do so in a reasonable manner.
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
Actually, as centurions are nothing to do with the topic at hand it'd be better if we dropped this tangent altogther.
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