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yeah, I've got plans for a sisters army myself so I hope you're wrong, but sadly I doubt it.

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah, I've got plans for a sisters army myself so I hope you're wrong, but sadly I doubt it.

They are are not marines so once the releases for this codex are done(likely in 2 waves. Most in january/february(I think 1.2 is store date), rest later. Like seraphim who were said to be "sometime next year") then future releases will be sparse.

If you are not marine you can't be sure of getting even one release in a year.

tneva82 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah, I've got plans for a sisters army myself so I hope you're wrong, but sadly I doubt it.

They are are not marines so once the releases for this codex are done(likely in 2 waves. Most in january/february(I think 1.2 is store date), rest later. Like seraphim who were said to be "sometime next year") then future releases will be sparse.

If you are not marine you can't be sure of getting even one release in a year.

That's.... normal? it's weird for any faction to be assured a release each year.

Dudeface wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah, I've got plans for a sisters army myself so I hope you're wrong, but sadly I doubt it.

They are are not marines so once the releases for this codex are done(likely in 2 waves. Most in january/february(I think 1.2 is store date), rest later. Like seraphim who were said to be "sometime next year") then future releases will be sparse.

If you are not marine you can't be sure of getting even one release in a year.

That's.... normal? it's weird for any faction to be assured a release each year.

even MARINES getting a release each year isn't exactly reliable, unless you insist that all marine varient codices are the same. and even then I think we had nearly two years between the repulsor executioner and the last marine release

Hahaha. There's been constant stream of marine releases. Sure not every release is big one like executioner but still more than most get.

I mean, I understand it's sort of a joke even GW are in on at this point but how many months are there between every generic primaris lieutenant release?

Yes, marines get more releases than other armies. Also GW minis are expensive, their rules are poorly balanced and water is wet.

One would imagine that at some point constantly whining about the same things that everyone knows and which are not going to change would get old, but apparently not.

I just hope that if the new bikes and landspeeder end up being in a box (with whatever else is in there to make an outrider detachment most likely), then the opposing force get just as much new stuff. The shadowspear box was absolutely fantastic and really helped lifting chaos out of the dark ages so the fact that normal SM also got a ton of stuff really shouldn't bother people all that much. If this was to be a box in the same type of vein, all new stuff for two forces SM vs ???, then that's a compromise I feel like plenty of people would be okay with (some would still hate it of course).

Honestly, insert any Xeno force into a shadowspear type boxset release wave and they'd be deserving and in all likelyhood ecstatic to be thought of.

PiñaColada wrote:
I just hope that if the new bikes and landspeeder end up being in a box (with whatever else is in there to make an outrider detachment most likely), then the opposing force get just as much new stuff. The shadowspear box was absolutely fantastic and really helped lifting chaos out of the dark ages so the fact that normal SM also got a ton of stuff really shouldn't bother people all that much. If this was to be a box in the same type of vein, all new stuff for two forces SM vs ???, then that's a compromise I feel like plenty of people would be okay with (some would still hate it of course).

Honestly, insert any Xeno force into a shadowspear type boxset release wave and they'd be deserving and in all likelyhood ecstatic to be thought of.

As long as it isn't Chaos Space Marines. Make it a Xenos force of some sort. And price it appropriately, for God's sake. More Eldar or Dark Eldar (another Aspect or two for Eldar or Mandrakes for Dark Eldar) would be welcome to me.

I'd Love some corsairs. Ain't happeneing but still.

Alternatively if it has to be Chaos atleast Make it lost and the damned not flavour of spike marine xyz

 Crimson wrote:
Yes, marines get more releases than other armies. Also GW minis are expensive, their rules are poorly balanced and water is wet.

One would imagine that at some point constantly whining about the same things that everyone knows and which are not going to change would get old, but apparently not.

Have you considered that GW isn't just responsible for this because of neglect, ever increasing pricing and bad rules writing but because now even the one good thing they did turns against them and people want to make use of GW's suggested interest in listening to its customers' concerns?

And it's not like GW is ambiguous about it either. We have plastic Sisters now. What message does that send? If we can make plastic Sisters happen, we can make anything happen.

That gives a lot of people hope that if they voice their complaints insistently enough, they may actually get addressed. It's... optimistic to hope for people to just stop asking GW for change for the better the first time in decades that GW actually seems interested in customer feedback.

PiñaColada wrote:
I just hope that if the new bikes and landspeeder end up being in a box (with whatever else is in there to make an outrider detachment most likely), then the opposing force get just as much new stuff. The shadowspear box was absolutely fantastic and really helped lifting chaos out of the dark ages so the fact that normal SM also got a ton of stuff really shouldn't bother people all that much. If this was to be a box in the same type of vein, all new stuff for two forces SM vs ???, then that's a compromise I feel like plenty of people would be okay with (some would still hate it of course).

Honestly, insert any Xeno force into a shadowspear type boxset release wave and they'd be deserving and in all likelyhood ecstatic to be thought of.

I'm not saying this is what's going to happen, but with all the Traitor Guard models Blackstone Fortress got and people getting the impression it's the sneak introduction to a full army release, and 9th ed probably coming this summer, that would be a great time for a starter set of Primaris versus Traitor Guard. Marines don't even need a new codex so a multipart kit wave to go with the starter set models is all GW has to get out of the way before they can focus on a full army rollout for Traitor Guard thereafter.

I'd hope for something more exotic and xenos, but I think narratively we're still in the Imperium versus Chaos stage with Xenos posing only a fringe threat.

Tbf if gw handled traitor guard correctly it is a exotic thing.

Big on the"IF"

BrianDavion wrote:

Mchagen wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
it's even more absurd when you realize Hybrid is a sisters of battle player. you know that army that's getting a MASSIVE release coming up sometime this month?

I think you've missed the point, it shouldn't be about the 'most neglected' tripe--the same off topic downward spiral that drives these threads to irrelevancy.

I'd like to comment more about this new 'landspeeder,' but one blurry leak attempt by gw isn't sufficient. I keep checking back in to see any updates and all I'm left with is the same group of people spam-posting this site to oblivion.

ohh I agree. you get these threads buried with people complaining about marines, and it's the same handful of people. It got so bad on the Psykic awakening thread the mods started issuing bans.

Equally - there is a constant (by the same old people) nagging defence of anything and everything related to Marines coupled with a demand for more Marines at the expense of everything else, often a noted sneering disdain and dislike for non Marine factions and anyone who enjoys them..

We know there will be a constant, unrelenting Marine releases - does not make it right.....

We have a blurry image of a Landspeeder (how many are there now??) and maybe some new bikes. - mabe not. Anything else known? Nope hence the usual gradual slip into the realm of off topic as there is no "News" really to talk about....

 Mr Morden wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Mchagen wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
it's even more absurd when you realize Hybrid is a sisters of battle player. you know that army that's getting a MASSIVE release coming up sometime this month?

I think you've missed the point, it shouldn't be about the 'most neglected' tripe--the same off topic downward spiral that drives these threads to irrelevancy.

I'd like to comment more about this new 'landspeeder,' but one blurry leak attempt by gw isn't sufficient. I keep checking back in to see any updates and all I'm left with is the same group of people spam-posting this site to oblivion.

ohh I agree. you get these threads buried with people complaining about marines, and it's the same handful of people. It got so bad on the Psykic awakening thread the mods started issuing bans.

Equally - there is a constant (by the same old people) nagging defence of anything and everything related to Marines coupled with a demand for more Marines at the expense of everything else, often a noted sneering disdain and dislike for non Marine factions and anyone who enjoys them..

We know there will be a constant, unrelenting Marine releases - does not make it right.....

We have a blurry image of a Landspeeder (how many are there now??) and maybe some new bikes. - mabe not. Anything else known? Nope hence the usual gradual slip into the realm of off topic as there is no "News" really to talk about....

Let's be real, there are a few people, you included, who just can't stop whining even when non marine are featured. The pro marine in comparaison are pretty tame.

 Mr Morden wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Mchagen wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
it's even more absurd when you realize Hybrid is a sisters of battle player. you know that army that's getting a MASSIVE release coming up sometime this month?

I think you've missed the point, it shouldn't be about the 'most neglected' tripe--the same off topic downward spiral that drives these threads to irrelevancy.

I'd like to comment more about this new 'landspeeder,' but one blurry leak attempt by gw isn't sufficient. I keep checking back in to see any updates and all I'm left with is the same group of people spam-posting this site to oblivion.

ohh I agree. you get these threads buried with people complaining about marines, and it's the same handful of people. It got so bad on the Psykic awakening thread the mods started issuing bans.

Equally - there is a constant (by the same old people) nagging defence of anything and everything related to Marines coupled with a demand for more Marines at the expense of everything else, often a noted sneering disdain and dislike for non Marine factions and anyone who enjoys them..

We know there will be a constant, unrelenting Marine releases - does not make it right.....

We have a blurry image of a Landspeeder (how many are there now??) and maybe some new bikes. - mabe not. Anything else known? Nope hence the usual gradual slip into the realm of off topic as there is no "News" really to talk about....

I would love to see you find some examples of anyone saying they disliked xenos players whilst asking for more marine releases please.

 Argive wrote:

 Sentineil wrote:
I can't wait for Xenos to get a release, just so I can go into the thread and endlessly complain about it not being Primaris and why Xenos are bad.

Maybe then I'll understand why everyone incessantly does it, and I too will become Woke to GeeDubya (this takes so much more effort than GW, but I guess it's edgy!).

God damn those businesses observing sales data and year on year growth trends when the real customers know best! Everyone knows that the best way to generate profit and growth isn't to target your largest demographic, it's to re-release Finecast Xenos in plastic! Because everyone totally won't complain that they have to re-buy their existing minis...

You mean like the endless complaining by SM players prior to supplements?? Because you know they didn't get to have their cake their cake and eat it too.

Says it's gak to the customer base when people have to rebuy their existing minis.

Is defending PRIMARIS MARINES???


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PiñaColada wrote:
I just hope that if the new bikes and landspeeder end up being in a box (with whatever else is in there to make an outrider detachment most likely), then the opposing force get just as much new stuff. The shadowspear box was absolutely fantastic and really helped lifting chaos out of the dark ages so the fact that normal SM also got a ton of stuff really shouldn't bother people all that much. If this was to be a box in the same type of vein, all new stuff for two forces SM vs ???, then that's a compromise I feel like plenty of people would be okay with (some would still hate it of course).

Honestly, insert any Xeno force into a shadowspear type boxset release wave and they'd be deserving and in all likelyhood ecstatic to be thought of.

Yeah that'd be amazing. Both factions got, what, 5 new kits out of the box (effectively, I know they released multipart versions later on)? that'd be amazing for literally any xenos faction. Heck, if it were for Eldar, you could make monopose aspect warriors and nobody would mind because they're coming from a monopose kit anyway and their unit only has 1 model with options.

Heck, if it were for Eldar, you could make monopose aspect warriors and nobody would mind because they're coming from a monopose kit anyway and their unit only has 1 model with options.

And in many cases, those options don't actually exist in model form. With some exarchs, they never have. ;/

It will be interesting to see the reveals on Saturday at the Open Day. If those new Primaris Marines are not shown then it either confirms the leak was fake or they are indeed for a release much further in the future.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed these are part of the launch lineup for the next edition. Not in the core game itself but as expansion sets.
On that note I'm also hoping the opposing army is not Chaos as they have been in every one of the last 3 or 4 core game releases.
(yes I know that Marines have been in every core game release since the first box, they are however the poster boys for the Imperium and GW)

 Triple Helix Wargames wrote:
It will be interesting to see the reveals on Saturday at the Open Day. If those new Primaris Marines are not shown then it either confirms the leak was fake or they are indeed for a release much further in the future.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed these are part of the launch lineup for the next edition. Not in the core game itself but as expansion sets.
On that note I'm also hoping the opposing army is not Chaos as they have been in every one of the last 3 or 4 core game releases.
(yes I know that Marines have been in every core game release since the first box, they are however the poster boys for the Imperium and GW)

I'm just sayin', you could do a good call-back to that fun era where the opposing force had no way to wound the landspeeder and have the opposing force be Drukhari...

That was a very fun box. I hope they pay homage to the era by making sure there's a massive gap by the engines when constructed.

I'm not trying to continue the discussion about marine hate or veer off topic with this but I wish people would stop justifying the idea that marines deserve disproportionately more content because they are the most popular army or have the greatest sales. GW has made it a self fulfilling prophecy that they are number one by that disproportionate attention.

I have pointed out before in threads on this topic that warhammer fantasy is a great example of how the game would look without having a poster boy faction with disproportionately more releases shoved down our throats. Fantasy had relatively even model ranges and didn't fail because of it's factions. I think most would agree that the setting and model range were the saving grace and most beloved part of fantasy. It was likely how expensive, time consuming, and impractical the game was what caused the game to eventually die off.

Is 9th confirmed for this year? Or just strongly speculated?

Not confirmed and won’t be til it’s announced.

I'd expect the next starter to be Primaris vs Emperor's Children rather than xenos.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
I'd expect the next starter to be Primaris vs Emperor's Children rather than xenos.

Yeah, you're probably right... an NPC can dream though.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Is 9th confirmed for this year? Or just strongly speculated?

No. Larry Vela said his "inside source" confirmed it for him (probably the same person who "confirmed" that Slaanesh was getting squatted) on BoLS. Other blogs and rumor sites have been referencing that article.

BrianDavion wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah, I've got plans for a sisters army myself so I hope you're wrong, but sadly I doubt it.

They are are not marines so once the releases for this codex are done(likely in 2 waves. Most in january/february(I think 1.2 is store date), rest later. Like seraphim who were said to be "sometime next year") then future releases will be sparse.

If you are not marine you can't be sure of getting even one release in a year.

That's.... normal? it's weird for any faction to be assured a release each year.

even MARINES getting a release each year isn't exactly reliable, unless you insist that all marine varient codices are the same. and even then I think we had nearly two years between the repulsor executioner and the last marine release

Nowhere near - Shadowspear to the Repulsive Executioner wasn't even a year, off the top of my head.

And that's ignoring random LE generic Lieutenants, who keep cropping up periodically.

 Dysartes wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah, I've got plans for a sisters army myself so I hope you're wrong, but sadly I doubt it.

They are are not marines so once the releases for this codex are done(likely in 2 waves. Most in january/february(I think 1.2 is store date), rest later. Like seraphim who were said to be "sometime next year") then future releases will be sparse.

If you are not marine you can't be sure of getting even one release in a year.

That's.... normal? it's weird for any faction to be assured a release each year.

even MARINES getting a release each year isn't exactly reliable, unless you insist that all marine varient codices are the same. and even then I think we had nearly two years between the repulsor executioner and the last marine release

Nowhere near - Shadowspear to the Repulsive Executioner wasn't even a year, off the top of my head.

And that's ignoring random LE generic Lieutenants, who keep cropping up periodically.

If you ignore the LE lieutenants since they weren't for mass distribution, the codex was July 2017, then the executioner in July 2019. What you mean is - there has been 1 long ass trickle of content this year.

BrianDavion wrote:
it's even more absurd when you realize Hybrid is a sisters of battle player. you know that army that's getting a MASSIVE release coming up sometime this month?

Yeah I guess an update every two decade is totally the same as several release every year .
I mean, Primaris have more options that Sisters will get, and they didn't exist a few years ago lol.

 Crimson wrote:
Yes, marines get more releases than other armies. Also GW minis are expensive, their rules are poorly balanced and water is wet.

One would imagine that at some point constantly whining about the same things that everyone knows and which are not going to change would get old, but apparently not.

Complaining got me plastic Sisters, why would I stop?

Dudeface wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Mchagen wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
it's even more absurd when you realize Hybrid is a sisters of battle player. you know that army that's getting a MASSIVE release coming up sometime this month?

I think you've missed the point, it shouldn't be about the 'most neglected' tripe--the same off topic downward spiral that drives these threads to irrelevancy.

I'd like to comment more about this new 'landspeeder,' but one blurry leak attempt by gw isn't sufficient. I keep checking back in to see any updates and all I'm left with is the same group of people spam-posting this site to oblivion.

ohh I agree. you get these threads buried with people complaining about marines, and it's the same handful of people. It got so bad on the Psykic awakening thread the mods started issuing bans.

Equally - there is a constant (by the same old people) nagging defence of anything and everything related to Marines coupled with a demand for more Marines at the expense of everything else, often a noted sneering disdain and dislike for non Marine factions and anyone who enjoys them..

We know there will be a constant, unrelenting Marine releases - does not make it right.....

We have a blurry image of a Landspeeder (how many are there now??) and maybe some new bikes. - mabe not. Anything else known? Nope hence the usual gradual slip into the realm of off topic as there is no "News" really to talk about....

I would love to see you find some examples of anyone saying they disliked xenos players whilst asking for more marine releases please.

he can;t because it doesn't exist. But apparently,

"I'd like to in the future see Primaris terminators" is in the same catagory as "WHAT! GW IS PUTTING OUT A NEW DARK ANGELS LEUITENANT! HOW DARE THEY! SPACE MARINES GOT A RELEASE ALREADY! GW NEEDS TO STOP GIVING MARINES ANYTHING AND INSTEAD PUT OUT CONTENT FOR XENOS! AND BY XENOS I MEAN UNITS FOR MY ARMY SPECIFICLY AND THEY HAVE TO BE THE EXACT UNITS I WANT!"