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 streetsamurai wrote:

 CMLR wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
These orruks also look like they will tower over ironjawz, who I thought were supposed to be the hardest of the lot.

Just because you are tallest it doesn't mean you are the hardest

For orcs yes. Bigger is stronger

Bigger is not taller.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Nice looking LoRT Orcs, but for AoS i'd rather they'd marketed and painted them all as hobgoblinz,

as I think they're too distinct from the rest of the Orcs (not bad, just they really look like a different species, especially with their odd proportions being distinct from the existing Orcs odd proportions)

Agreed. In fact i would have like them to be a bit more fishlike and be a completely different race. As is, they are cool models, but a bit boring

 streetsamurai wrote:

 CMLR wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
These orruks also look like they will tower over ironjawz, who I thought were supposed to be the hardest of the lot.

Just because you are tallest it doesn't mean you are the hardest

For orcs yes. Bigger is stronger

Height is different from bulk

"We'z da biggest and da meanest der is" - so sayeth Joe Orcy.

Azog the Defiler and the Blind Troll from Battle of the Five Armies?

morgaur wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
I’d say more than hinted at Chaos Dwarfs.
All but said them.

Won’t be Chaos though I’d imagine.
Hashnul Duardin or something it’ll be.

They've called themselves the Dawi Zarr since decades ago, they don't really need a new name (please GW, don't give them a new name)

Dawizarr Emberlords.

The new Orks look like a right pain to paint, just so much going on. Personally I think they would look a bit better with a darker green or red skin tone.

The actual hobgobs look great, wouldn't be too hard to convert some of them into Blood Bowl hobgobs either.

Danny76 wrote:
I’d say more than hinted at Chaos Dwarfs.
All but said them.

Won’t be Chaos though I’d imagine.
Hashnul Duardin or something it’ll be.

Furnace Kings of Azgorh. They've named them in a few older battletomes.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
I’d say more than hinted at Chaos Dwarfs.
All but said them.

Won’t be Chaos though I’d imagine.
Hashnul Duardin or something it’ll be.

Furnace Kings of Azgorh. They've named them in a few older battletomes.

Azgoruradin Furnacethanes(tm).

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
The new Orks look like a right pain to paint, just so much going on. Personally I think they would look a bit better with a darker green or red skin tone.

I thought more pale green could work.

Not big fan on shields however. Works on heroic guys but not on rank and file (and I mean spear guys).

Sotahullu wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
The new Orks look like a right pain to paint, just so much going on. Personally I think they would look a bit better with a darker green or red skin tone.

I thought more pale green could work.

Not big fan on shields however. Works on heroic guys but not on rank and file (and I mean spear guys).

I'm thinking the shields would look good painted the same color as the shield Kragnos carries:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
I’d say more than hinted at Chaos Dwarfs.
All but said them.

Won’t be Chaos though I’d imagine.
Hashnul Duardin or something it’ll be.

Furnace Kings of Azgorh. They've named them in a few older battletomes.

And they’re still Chaos, I’m pretty sure.

I really like the new orcs. The hobgobs are ugly as hell, but I think they’ll grow on me.

 Ghaz wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
The new Orks look like a right pain to paint, just so much going on. Personally I think they would look a bit better with a darker green or red skin tone.

I thought more pale green could work.

Not big fan on shields however. Works on heroic guys but not on rank and file (and I mean spear guys).

I'm thinking the shields would look good painted the same color as the shield Kragnos carries:

Spoiler:

Not bad idea but I am leaning towards shields similar to what current Gor kit has.



Those are fairly big, looks like they are made from scrap and matches authentics quite well.

And back from reality and catching up on the preview - I have to say I'm not an Ork fan nor much of an Orruk fan. I've loved them in lore and stories and computer games, but I've never wanted them as an army over the years. That said these new Cruelboyz I really do love. There's a deadly smartness to them that speaks of cunning and deadly intent. THESE Are the greenskins of your nightmares.



Note the jovial madness of the gitz nor the bash-smash brutality of Orruks. These are the dark swampy monsters that come for you in the dark of night. That strike without fear; that stab you through the chinks in your armour and wear down your defences with precision strikes. All the brutality of an ork with all the cunning of - dare I say it - almost a human or aelf.



I love them as a concept and if I ever collect greenskins these would be the ones for me!





Stormcast are great and whilst their army gets a bit more bloated the new designs are very sweet. A degree of elegance to them now, even the hounds are looking very sleek and deadly. The new chariot is awesome and makes me jealous that they get it (DoK need a chariot!)





Great preview and whilst neither army is "mine" to collect I'm greatly looking forward to seeing the future. I will have to keep an eye out when the new boxed set goes on sale and see if I can snag a cheap secondhand split box copy of the rules at some stage.

I didn't expect the winged stormcast leader to be part of the box.

I'm definitely picking one up, when are the preorders supposed to be?

Well sc looks good enough　that if i can find somebody to swap orcs out of my hands for eithei cash or more sc wijll try to get bo. If not hard skip.

 ScarletRose wrote:
I didn't expect the winged stormcast leader to be part of the box.

I'm definitely picking one up, when are the preorders supposed to be?

Some point in June, probably with a two week pre-order lead in like Indomitus had.

Have fun with the scalper bots.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 ScarletRose wrote:
I didn't expect the winged stormcast leader to be part of the box.

I'm definitely picking one up, when are the preorders supposed to be?

Some point in June, probably with a two week pre-order lead in like Indomitus had.

Have fun with the scalper bots.

Oh I plan to support my FLGS. They got me an Indomitus before and I'm hoping they can get one of these too.

Right I collect destruction and stormcasts so this box ticks all boxes...Well not quite.

Im not sure I want another flavour of Orc, they seem to have blended the black goblins with orcs since these share aesthetic of both ( which would be cool if they stopped there) But they introduced LOTR references and somehow these look more 3d STL file typical lack of character models than the previous races I mentioned. They look extremely boring to paint up.
Believe it or not the only redeeming thing of these models are the yellow hobgoblins troops... those are freaking unique and different in a good way since they are their own thing.

Stormcast FRICK me! All of this are just the perfect range extension we needed. No faults there, every single model is what I wanted.

So its a mixed bag for me and its not impulse buy for sure...which means, being limited edition + me not ordering in the first 15 minutes of preorder = no box for me.

Good box I love 60% of it but due to GW new boxset limited shenanigans, I will pass. This box would be something I would buy myself as an extra, later on in the year just for the bits I like.

By the time they release the split typical 3 boxes Im probably looking to something else also. I don't think the Orcs will age well with me so I will probably like them less down the line.

In my small bubble I would rather see things like a full hobgoblin army like those yellow fellas, or expansions to what we already have in destruction like spider gobs, savage orcs. Not this blend of concepts.

I hope people enjoy this box though.
Any prices yet?

Those are much better Orcs than I was expecting, nicely distinctive from the existing ones.

Don't need the whole set though, so hopefully I'll be able to pick up some the characters for not entirely ridonkulous prices.

Also we can expect that the new Orks will get the same treatment that Necrons and Nighthaunt got - so a pretty fast turn over of new models (corona delays might be factor of course) and fleshing out of their army. Which is a great thing for a new army to launch into life with a big injection of fresh models.

 Overread wrote:
Also we can expect that the new Orks will get the same treatment that Necrons and Nighthaunt got - so a pretty fast turn over of new models (corona delays might be factor of course) and fleshing out of their army. Which is a great thing for a new army to launch into life with a big injection of fresh models.

I agree, this seems very likely. I am curious to see what sort of army they are. They have Gitmob-style sidekicks and a new type of Troggoth. I wonder if they will have units of them too or if those will be their own factions.

I am thrilled that they teased the Furnace Kings of Azgorh. I've wanted them for ages.

Another overhaul of Orc models.... They look great tbf, very inspired by the Hobbit orcs and goblins it seems, but still, look great.. It's just a strange overhaul for me in terms of need/requirement.

Love the new Hobgoblin style orcs, have a really great old school late 80's feel, but modernized in a great way.

The red on the shields was a poor choice in my view, I think I'll go for weathered brass

Sotahullu wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
The new Orks look like a right pain to paint, just so much going on. Personally I think they would look a bit better with a darker green or red skin tone.

I thought more pale green could work.

Not big fan on shields however. Works on heroic guys but not on rank and file (and I mean spear guys).

Agree that a really pale green would work.

I'm not a fan of the bright red, but I'm absolutely sure that brimey and oiley colours are going to look 10/10


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 ScarletRose wrote:
I didn't expect the winged stormcast leader to be part of the box.

I'm definitely picking one up, when are the preorders supposed to be?

Again, I'm pretty sure they confirmed her to be part of the deal.

Just a point about the limited natures. Surely those comparing it to Imdomitus must remember that GW did a brief Made-to-Order after release for those that missed it on the day. Should we expect the same this time?

 DeadEyeDuk wrote:
Just a point about the limited natures. Surely those comparing it to Imdomitus must remember that GW did a brief Made-to-Order after release for those that missed it on the day. Should we expect the same this time?

No. There is no guarantee of a 'Made to Order' so plan appropriately.

I gotta admit, I really like the new hobgoblins (and the yellow skintone works really well).

Fingers crossed that if/when GW decides Chaos Dwarfs need to return, I hope you can take Hobgrot Slittas as part of your force. That would pull me back into the gaming aspect in a heartbeat!

 DeadEyeDuk wrote:
Just a point about the limited natures. Surely those comparing it to Imdomitus must remember that GW did a brief Made-to-Order after release for those that missed it on the day. Should we expect the same this time?

MTO was made in response to the speed of the sell out and the outcry afterwards. Hopefully they've produced more so won't need it this time 'round. But the box is fantastic, will be getting it and trading the boyz half for Stormcast.

 Ghaz wrote:

 DeadEyeDuk wrote:
Just a point about the limited natures. Surely those comparing it to Imdomitus must remember that GW did a brief Made-to-Order after release for those that missed it on the day. Should we expect the same this time?

No. There is no guarantee of a 'Made to Order' so plan approriately.

Yup. Besides they said on stream that once its gone its gone, even if they did plenty of boxes this time around.
If you want the box be sure not to wait for a potential 2nd run and just preorder.