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New Year, new thread;

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/01/04/reveals-from-the-new-year-open-day-2020gw-homepage-post-1/



Prepare for the ultimate Evil vs Evil mega Chaos-Death fight in “Wrath of the Everchosen".

This new book tells the story of the Ossiarch Bonereaper invasion of the Eightpoints and the battle for the Varanspire.

There will be loads of fun stuff for every gamer in the Age of Sigmar too, with new rules for wandering monsters, roaming endless spells and even siege warfare!

Chaos players will get especially spoilt, with a host of new army options to represent the myriad forces under Archaon’s command – mortal, monster and daemonic alike.



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I'm still curious to see if GW doing siege means that they'll start selling some GW brand walls.

I'm starting to wonder a little if the expansion books for AoS are being made by a side team. I recall that their last expansion book added mercenaries, then only a few weeks later main GW took the dwarf artillery models off sale (which were one of the core mercenary forces).

Now we've an expansion with siege when many armies don't have ANY war engines to speak of; and when there isn't even any walls save for the Rohan stuff.

Both suggest to me a side-team that isn't part of the core team, or at least isn't read into their long term plans as they come up with their own. It wouldn't surprise me, for a single company with one HQ, GW is known to be very compartmentalised in how they are structured (I think its a backlash from the Kirby era and I hope it starts to change).


Still I'd rather hope and look forward to possible new siege stuff!

   
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 Overread wrote:
I'm still curious to see if GW doing siege means that they'll start selling some GW brand walls.

I'm starting to wonder a little if the expansion books for AoS are being made by a side team. I recall that their last expansion book added mercenaries, then only a few weeks later main GW took the dwarf artillery models off sale (which were one of the core mercenary forces).

Now we've an expansion with siege when many armies don't have ANY war engines to speak of; and when there isn't even any walls save for the Rohan stuff.

Both suggest to me a side-team that isn't part of the core team, or at least isn't read into their long term plans as they come up with their own. It wouldn't surprise me, for a single company with one HQ, GW is known to be very compartmentalised in how they are structured (I think its a backlash from the Kirby era and I hope it starts to change).


Still I'd rather hope and look forward to possible new siege stuff!


Id love to see the old battle fortress comeback in some way....

Faction specific rams, ladders and towers would be fun too.

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 Carnikang wrote:


Id love to see the old battle fortress comeback in some way....

Faction specific rams, ladders and towers would be fun too.


You mean this old thing?
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mighty-fortress-warhammer-siege-games-1799168221

It was actually a pretty nice kit, especially for the time. The towers were even theoretically usable, but it was easier just take models off the table.


Faction specific though... that's hard to justify. Every faction division cuts sales down for a product that's already pretty niche.
Grand alliance kits might work, though.

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Wonder if the pointy elfes are related to the come back of whfb. If there very similar to he, they could be used for both system

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 streetsamurai wrote:
Wonder if the pointy elfes are related to the come back of whfb. If there very similar to he, they could be used for both system
Seems kind of pointless to go to the trouble of excising almost all of them when they're keeping lizards, beasts, and general chaos functionally unaltered.

I'd be really disappointed to if after all this time and build up, the Hysh Elves end up being slightly better proportioned archers, spears, sea guard, swordmasters and silver helms. At that point they might as well have kept selling them as part of Cities of Sigmar, and launched the new kits with that book.

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Voss wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
Wonder if the pointy elfes are related to the come back of whfb. If there very similar to he, they could be used for both system
Seems kind of pointless to go to the trouble of excising almost all of them when they're keeping lizards, beasts, and general chaos functionally unaltered.

I'd be really disappointed to if after all this time and build up, the Hysh Elves end up being slightly better proportioned archers, spears, sea guard, swordmasters and silver helms. At that point they might as well have kept selling them as part of Cities of Sigmar, and launched the new kits with that book.


They are all going to be doing backflips and stuff though...

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Voss wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:


Id love to see the old battle fortress comeback in some way....

Faction specific rams, ladders and towers would be fun too.


You mean this old thing?
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mighty-fortress-warhammer-siege-games-1799168221

It was actually a pretty nice kit, especially for the time. The towers were even theoretically usable, but it was easier just take models off the table.


Faction specific though... that's hard to justify. Every faction division cuts sales down for a product that's already pretty niche.
Grand alliance kits might work, though.

There were cool conversion articles in the original Generals Handbook for theming it.

A conversion pack for each Grand Alliance to make it your own would be a reasonable middle ground for current GW.

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 streetsamurai wrote:
Wonder if the pointy elfes are related to the come back of whfb. If there very similar to he, they could be used for both system


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I wouldn’t have thought so at all to be honest..
But you never know I suppose..
   
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 streetsamurai wrote:
Wonder if the pointy elfes are related to the come back of whfb. If there very similar to he, they could be used for both system



Evidently oldhammer was greenlighted pretty recently(when it was posted). Pointy aelves desing started around 2018 most likely. way before back to old hammer was conceived. Unrelated,

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 Overread wrote:
I'm still curious to see if GW doing siege means that they'll start selling some GW brand walls.

I'm starting to wonder a little if the expansion books for AoS are being made by a side team. I recall that their last expansion book added mercenaries, then only a few weeks later main GW took the dwarf artillery models off sale (which were one of the core mercenary forces).

Now we've an expansion with siege when many armies don't have ANY war engines to speak of; and when there isn't even any walls save for the Rohan stuff.

Both suggest to me a side-team that isn't part of the core team, or at least isn't read into their long term plans as they come up with their own. It wouldn't surprise me, for a single company with one HQ, GW is known to be very compartmentalised in how they are structured (I think its a backlash from the Kirby era and I hope it starts to change).


Still I'd rather hope and look forward to possible new siege stuff!


I can at least see them rereleasing the Chaos Fortress stuff. Didn't realize it was gone from the site actually, my FLGS has one of the big boxes of it still sitting on the shelf.
   
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The narrative side of me had a really great time in 2019 and is really excited for 2020.

The matched play side of me I've taken out back and put out of its misery.

Yay narrative!

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tneva82 wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
Wonder if the pointy elfes are related to the come back of whfb. If there very similar to he, they could be used for both system



Evidently oldhammer was greenlighted pretty recently(when it was posted). Pointy aelves desing started around 2018 most likely. way before back to old hammer was conceived. Unrelated,


It might be the other way around. Maybe seeing these new elves made the design team realised that they could be used in both system. Still, we need to wait and see how they actually look before making conjoncture

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I really doubt that. people read way too much into the fact that they showed the concept art for the old WFB models in the demo. Why make them compatible when you can then sell Old World Racist Elves to people again?
   
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I'm no fan of Elfs, but that video made me laugh.

Well done GW.

 
   
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Seige rules are always cool. If people are looking for a cool fortress, Renedra do a great one.
http://www.renedra.co.uk/product.php?product=240

   
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Voss wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:


Id love to see the old battle fortress comeback in some way....

Faction specific rams, ladders and towers would be fun too.


You mean this old thing?
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mighty-fortress-warhammer-siege-games-1799168221

It was actually a pretty nice kit, especially for the time. The towers were even theoretically usable, but it was easier just take models off the table.


Faction specific though... that's hard to justify. Every faction division cuts sales down for a product that's already pretty niche.
Grand alliance kits might work, though.


There was a newer one than this one. Used to have it




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 streetsamurai wrote:
Voss wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:


Id love to see the old battle fortress comeback in some way....

Faction specific rams, ladders and towers would be fun too.


You mean this old thing?
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mighty-fortress-warhammer-siege-games-1799168221

It was actually a pretty nice kit, especially for the time. The towers were even theoretically usable, but it was easier just take models off the table.


Faction specific though... that's hard to justify. Every faction division cuts sales down for a product that's already pretty niche.
Grand alliance kits might work, though.


There was a newer one than this one. Used to have it






Got a pair or so of those on the terrain shelves at the flgs.

 
   
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Fun video and I guess we already knew Hysh Elves were coming, but ugh, more elves. The sooner we get those out of the way, the better.

 Da Boss wrote:
Seige rules are always cool. If people are looking for a cool fortress, Renedra do a great one.
http://www.renedra.co.uk/product.php?product=240


You don't happen to have any scale pictures of that, do you? Would be good to know how GW models look next to its doors, ramparts, etc.

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I can get some shots with a Space Marine when I go home but for now I have a picture of it next to some paint pots and those stags from the wood elf wild riders kit.

   
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I can't see GW doing faction specific walls for every race nor faction specific siege equipment for every race. I can see each race having their own artillery unit for regular battles (heck until the great cull of the start of AoS most races did have one or two artillery weapons - elves had bolt throwers; humans had cannon, dwarves had loads, even orks had catapults and grot throwers etc...).

I could see GW making grand alliance siege equipment. That would only be 4 sets of kit and could be neatly themed for the different nature of each race. Chaos could get some huge living rolling siege tower; Death some bone ladders etc... Basically generic designs that could be use by any race. A few might be outliers - eg Stormcast are bigger than most of the Order races so I could see them having their own etc...

   
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I could see it too. But we both know we won't, it will be another low-effort hastily scribbled set of "siege" rules to fill pages in an otherwise completely pointless supplement. I fully expect climbing the walls to be the only way to assault the defenses.

There are few things as superfluous in gaming as GW campaign supplements.
   
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Cronch wrote:
I really doubt that. people read way too much into the fact that they showed the concept art for the old WFB models in the demo. Why make them compatible when you can then sell Old World Racist Elves to people again?


It's a little known fact that the images and words GW use in teasers is completely random.
   
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No, but it was fairly clear to me that they meant the models will be inspired by old elf aesthetics, not that they will just re-make HE which is what having them fit both games would require.
   
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So have the Ossies' bone walls been confirmed to be custom pieces by GW's terrain team? Last time I saw that come up people were still divided on the issue, and if the narrative is going to be Ossies specifically versus Chaos there might be something more to those walls. Chaos, after all, already has a castle kit even if it's not currently for sale. It wouldn't take much for GW to order another run of those.

The other option is that this will be the low effort product some fear it is and the factions were chosen because GW wants to sell their newest shiny army and as the attacker they don't need fortifications, and Chaos is currently the only one that has one and is therefore picked as the defender.

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I can get some shots with a Space Marine when I go home but for now I have a picture of it next to some paint pots and those stags from the wood elf wild riders kit.
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A picture with a Marine would be great, thanks.

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Pretty sure the Bonereaper terrain was mentioned in a recent Stormcast podcast and that they are resin prints not for production. But the files exist so it’s still a possibility.
   
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I love the High Elves!
This is probably great news if it mean we will get elves that are not mutated weird creatures. I miss the age of gigantic hats, like when Tyrion sported a helmet with more mass than the actual man.

It makes me want to start a painting thread with some of my classic high elf stuff (and some classy ones to).

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Just like with the recent new Dark Eldar mini's, GW doesn't seem to understand that if the choice is to either buy a whole expensive box of stuff I don't want only to get a new Magister on Disc or buy nothing instead the choice will be the latter and they are not getting any money from me.



 
   
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 Fayric wrote:
It makes me want to start a painting thread with some of my classic high elf stuff (and some classy ones to).


Do it!
   
 
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