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 Eldarsif wrote:
That is some Death Guard thing, trust me. I have been painting these exact tubes on quite a few Plague Marines right now, and the wings have those Death Guard pockmarks.

It's Chaos Marines in general, not just Death Guard.

The Chaos Space Marines Lord that came in Blackstone Fortress had them too. Some of the Havocs, the generic CSMs, and I think the Lord Discordant all have them as well.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
That is some Death Guard thing, trust me. I have been painting these exact tubes on quite a few Plague Marines right now, and the wings have those Death Guard pockmarks.

It's Chaos Marines in general, not just Death Guard.

The Chaos Space Marines Lord that came in Blackstone Fortress had them too. Some of the Havocs, the generic CSMs, and I think the Lord Discordant all have them as well.

There are also the boils and the droopy drop thingies on the flaps.

Could be a new Daemon Engine.

 Gremore wrote:
I'd agree with the Death Guard vibes, but what do Death Guard not have that they could use?

Plastic Daemon Prince of Nurgle, general release Noxious Blightbringer, general release Malignant Plaguecaster, general release Lord of Contagion, Death Guard Chaos Lord and even a Death Guard Hellbrute.

Or just new stuff, they have plenty of space for new stuff.

Good point

Hmmm Mierce are apparently going to be Scifi-ing up one of their Nurgle Demon Prince equivalents, I wonder if they've heard whispers of on official model appearing?

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Gremore wrote:
I'd agree with the Death Guard vibes, but what do Death Guard not have that they could use?

Plastic Daemon Prince of Nurgle, general release Noxious Blightbringer, general release Malignant Plaguecaster, general release Lord of Contagion, Death Guard Chaos Lord and even a Death Guard Hellbrute.

Or just new stuff, they have plenty of space for new stuff.

I like the idea of GW making new Daemon Princes for the masses. I have no horse in the Chaos race, beyond enjoying seeing interesting models across the table, and I do think the Daemon Prince could use a redo.

I keep making the same mistake of assuming GW will tackle non-plastic items before they tackle redoing newer plastic items, but then I get slapped in the face with every type of Primaris there is and am quickly reminded that's not how it works.

 Eldarsif wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
That is some Death Guard thing, trust me. I have been painting these exact tubes on quite a few Plague Marines right now, and the wings have those Death Guard pockmarks.

It's Chaos Marines in general, not just Death Guard.

The Chaos Space Marines Lord that came in Blackstone Fortress had them too. Some of the Havocs, the generic CSMs, and I think the Lord Discordant all have them as well.

There are also the boils and the droopy drop thingies on the flaps.

Could be a new Daemon Engine.

Bringing the image over for posterity:

I might be wrong, but I think what people are seeing as "droopy drop thingies" are part of the wing rather than something going off of them. As for the boils?


The weird biomechanical stuff there has them too, just painted a bit darker.

I have no idea what this might be. Maybe a reinvention of the Furies concept as a Dark Mechanicus unit? We already saw the Negavolt Cultists with Blackstone Fortress, they might just start adding some of the weirder stuff via that to give a Renegades and Heretics army down the road a bit more of a unit count?

Possible Nurgle Daemon Prince?

Echoing what was said above, the vents or tears in the piping look a lot like the pipes on the Daemon Engines for the CSM - the shape of the membrane is also giving me the impression that it's wet, for some reason, so on board with the Nurgle bandwagon.

Just to throw out a different option out there: Skaven? They have pustules and mechanical bits. But DG seems more likely, time to expand the army hopefully.

Who designed that?

Woo. The chaos, probably Nurgle, consensus makes me feel bad about the slight sliver of hope the first glance gave me for a tyranid model some time this decade.

While I see where the comments for Chaos and/or Death Guard are coming from - and they were my first thoughts too - my second thought was actually "hmm, could be a winged version of Flayed Ones". You know, the skin-wearing Necrons, still waiting for a plastic kit. Adding wings to them could make sense, and give Necrons a new jumping/flying unit suitable for CC.

I don’t see anything specific to match Nurgle in the current line except the tubes that are also on Chaos in general.

There’s definitely no droplets, that’s one piece of wing looking at the colour of the paints, it would vary if it was a separate coloured drop wouldn’t it.
But it looks part of it either way.

 Darnok wrote:
While I see where the comments for Chaos and/or Death Guard are coming from - and they were my first thoughts too - my second thought was actually "hmm, could be a winged version of Flayed Ones". You know, the skin-wearing Necrons, still waiting for a plastic kit. Adding wings to them could make sense, and give Necrons a new jumping/flying unit suitable for CC.

Fair enough, didn't even think about that, and you have a line at the start of its redo as opposed to Death Guard.

My bets are still hedging toward Chaos something, but I do appreciate the new approach and I would be pleasantly surprised if it's more Necrons.

Could Be Dark Mechanicus.

Voss wrote:
Woo. The chaos, probably Nurgle, consensus makes me feel bad about the slight sliver of hope the first glance gave me for a tyranid model some time this decade.

It was my first thought seeing this too, like either a random single model or, god forbid, some Shrikes, but only a few seconds of looking and it doesn't really match Tyranids ongoing aesthetic sadly. So yeah, gonna wait some more for anything Tyranids.

 Skywave wrote:

Voss wrote:
Woo. The chaos, probably Nurgle, consensus makes me feel bad about the slight sliver of hope the first glance gave me for a tyranid model some time this decade.

It was my first thought seeing this too, like either a random single model or, god forbid, some Shrikes, but only a few seconds of looking and it doesn't really match Tyranids ongoing aesthetic sadly. So yeah, gonna wait some more for anything Tyranids.

I was chatting with my GW store manager the other day, and he said he hasn't sold a tyranid kit in 15 months. The army just doesn't sell. Maybe it needs an update or just to be squatted.

 Togusa wrote:

I was chatting with my GW store manager the other day, and he said he hasn't sold a tyranid kit in 15 months. The army just doesn't sell. Maybe it needs an update or just to be squatted.

That or the legions of fans are waiting for something new and aren't buying. Or you just don't have any Tyranid fans or your manager isn't pushing/encouraging Tyranids hard enough during selling.

Heck barring a few annoyances like split heads on gaunts, Tyranids are one of the best Xenos armies in terms of models right now. They've only a handful of models still in finecast and 2 new kits could remove the regular units and 3 would remove the 1 oustanding hero in finecast (Red Terror). That's a better position than most of the other Xenos forces. So yeah I'd say Tyranids are safe.

I think the lore is heading towards a big push for tyranids soon. They're on the LE rulebook cover, and Silent King return for Necrons was specifically because he wanted to stop the nids. I think they'll be the next big update after Necrons (maybe one after since obvs the imperium needs more stuff)

 Togusa wrote:

 Skywave wrote:

Voss wrote:
Woo. The chaos, probably Nurgle, consensus makes me feel bad about the slight sliver of hope the first glance gave me for a tyranid model some time this decade.

It was my first thought seeing this too, like either a random single model or, god forbid, some Shrikes, but only a few seconds of looking and it doesn't really match Tyranids ongoing aesthetic sadly. So yeah, gonna wait some more for anything Tyranids.

I was chatting with my GW store manager the other day, and he said he hasn't sold a tyranid kit in 15 months. The army just doesn't sell. Maybe it needs an update or just to be squatted.

It is an army that needs some love from GW in general. Some of the kits are really old, only DO available, and just needs to be revisited. There is also a problem with Tyranids that their story isn't really evolving while everyone else and their mother are getting cool heroes and lore advancement. As it stands right now the 'Nids kinda feel like the odd man out in all the conflict.

Plus the codex needs to be revisited. It's a decent codex with good internal workings, but the problem is that it is driving at 50 kph while all the codexes doing the heavy lifting are going at 90 kph.

I am looking forward to running monsters with shooting weapons, though. Now you can actually kit a monster with some firepower without fearing the bad touch.

 Togusa wrote:
Could Be Dark Mechanicus.

I really want to see a Necron sized update to tyranids, craftworlds and dark eldar before they start flailing about with starting subfactions from the ground up again.

Voss wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Could Be Dark Mechanicus.

I really want to see a Necron sized update to tyranids, craftworlds and dark eldar before they start flailing about with starting subfactions from the ground up again.

You should probably make a head start of being disappointed then.

 Overread wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

I was chatting with my GW store manager the other day, and he said he hasn't sold a tyranid kit in 15 months. The army just doesn't sell. Maybe it needs an update or just to be squatted.

That or the legions of fans are waiting for something new and aren't buying. Or you just don't have any Tyranid fans or your manager isn't pushing/encouraging Tyranids hard enough during selling.

Heck barring a few annoyances like split heads on gaunts, Tyranids are one of the best Xenos armies in terms of models right now. They've only a handful of models still in finecast and 2 new kits could remove the regular units and 3 would remove the 1 oustanding hero in finecast (Red Terror). That's a better position than most of the other Xenos forces. So yeah I'd say Tyranids are safe.

Don't get me wrong, I played Nids for a while in 8th. They started out fairly strong, but by the time PA had started up, they dried up. I wouldn't just lose, it was a crushing loss every single time I played, even when I was cheesing it up to high heavens.

One of the biggest issues for me was that running my "CC units" wasn't worth it, most of the time my carnifexes were hitting on a 4+ which is just insane for something that is suppsed to be a dedicated melee monster. I think overall the army needs some new kits and needs to have it's rules heavily examined. They need a gimmick like everyone else has. synapes for moral was worthless mostly due to the fact that moral tests almost never seem to matter in this game for anything.

 General Kroll wrote:

Voss wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Could Be Dark Mechanicus.

I really want to see a Necron sized update to tyranids, craftworlds and dark eldar before they start flailing about with starting subfactions from the ground up again.

You should probably make a head start of being disappointed then.

Eh. The Necron update is far, far larger than I would have expected at any point this century, and they haven't done much with dark mech or other subfactions except sit on some throwaway models in BSF. There are a lot of reasons they could make progress on the major xenos lines in the next couple years. Necrons and the Silent King inherently tie into the tyranid and eldar background, and they've faffed about with the Ynnari non-story for long enough.

it could also be something Slaanesh, attaching skin to cables sounds Slaaneshy and with that it could be drukhari as well, just not sure if the drukhari use those kind of cables

I dont know, the structure dont make sense as wings; the organic parts dont connect as wings should, and the middle "cable" extend to long
Also, the dark straight section along the pictures left edge looks like something more scenery or vehicle rather than infantry or monster.
Makes it look more like a weird chaotic sail attached to a mast or wall. But that dont make any sense at all.
Perhaps its just a bad concept for a daemon engine wing after all.

I'm sceptical of it being a wing as well. But the powerfist and piping.points to this being some sort of chaos piece as well.

Personally hope its a daemon prince because I can not stand the current version.

Someone over at War of Sigmar referred to an old Adrian Smith illustration of a Nurgle Daemon Prince with somehow similar wings (much rather bones than tubes, but ...):

Oooh I like it!

fingers crossed it's this

If this isn't belligerently a plastic Lelith Hesperax, then I'm a Drukhari's Uncle.


Now with model for comparison