2020 Rumour Engine thread.

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**Voss**

GaroRobe wrote:
Forgeworld did that in the past, with that terribly painted Space Wolf Terminator. I wouldn't mind an advent grid pattern, but the model in question would have to be something spectacular to warrant that hype. A primarch or something even grander. I don't think even the new Sigvald model, magnificent though he may be, could justify 25 days of teases.

I was thinking more multiple models, with the pictures trimmed to create a 'ensemble' group shot.
They could do a whole bunch of teases, with core of each model coming later in month, focusing on legs, weapons and shoulders for the first couple weeks.

**Dandelion**

Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.

**Kanluwen**

Dandelion wrote:
Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.

Nobody has said it "has to be identical to the current models". What is an important thing to note, however, is that there are design aesthetics that are across a range.

That trim and kneepad being different to the Sororitas 'design aesthetic' hints towards it not being a part of the faction.

Right now the closest matches are those of Skitarii:

Spoiler:

I genuinely would not be shocked if whatever is coming for AdMech includes a 'character wave' ala the Genestealer Cult Codex for 8th.

**Coenus Scaldingus**

Dandelion wrote:
Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.

Why would it more likely be different from the current models though? We've seen dozens of new plastic Sisters, and none of them have this trim on their armour, or a vaguely similar style of greave - including the one figure with a bionic leg. Sure, they can introduce something new, but it sure is more likely to be part of a range that already contains those designs. Not expecting this to be a Sister, and quite right, they don't need new sets for a while.

**MajorWesJanson**

It matches the armor on skitarii vehicles, but is more ornate than on infantry. My guess is a Tempestus Scion character of some sort, like a named Tempestus Prime

**Totalwar1402**

Kanluwen wrote:
Dandelion wrote:
Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.

Nobody has said it "has to be identical to the current models". What is an important thing to note, however, is that there are design aesthetics that are across a range.

That trim and kneepad being different to the Sororitas 'design aesthetic' hints towards it not being a part of the faction.

Right now the closest matches are those of Skitarii:

Spoiler:

I genuinely would not be shocked if whatever is coming for AdMech includes a 'character wave' ala the Genestealer Cult Codex for 8th.

How? The Skitari foot is a slab of metal meant to show how they’ve been chopped up by the tech priests and rendered inhuman cyborgs. Not an ornate, vaguely feminine, slightly kinky boot whose front vaguely resembles a certain piece of artwork. I get that there’s a joint at the ankle but you see that on the Canoness bionic as well. We saw a more detailed Skitari commander in the teaser and he isn’t remotely like that model. To be Admech it would need to be a totally new unit type of robo assassin women or something like that. Which is quite left field.

I’ve been more convinced by the argument it’s a Fem Knight due to the shape of the trim. But then because Sisters models are quite small they might be adding that on a more upscaled model.

I am pretty convinced it’s big sisters or some kind of mini mini Knight. Although a completely humanoid Knight would be a departure as well.

**Nostromodamus**

Definitely has Titan/Mechanicus flair on the trim. Maybe something like the lady assassin in the 30k novel Mechanicus?

**Totalwar1402**

Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Dandelion wrote:
Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.
Why would it more likely be different from the current models though? We've seen dozens of new plastic Sisters, and none of them have this trim on their armour, or a vaguely similar style of greave - including the one figure with a bionic leg. Sure, they can introduce something new, but it sure is more likely to be part of a range that already contains those designs. Not expecting this to be a Sister, and quite right, they don't need new sets for a while.

But we know they are getting a new unit in the Palatine and possibly codex pretty soon. GW did an article recently reflecting on how well the range went. It’s really not impossible they might get a second wave.

If it’s an upscaled variant of Sisters armour you would want to add more trim and change certain setups like the knee and foot. You would want to visually distinguish it in he same way a Hevay Intercessors doesn’t look like an Intercessor. But still keep general look. For example on the resin Canoness they do have a more rounded foot and a separate segment at the knee. Making the knee a separate section rather than one block is probably a design choice to add more detail.

**Dandelion**

Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Dandelion wrote:
Why would it have to be identical to the current models? The whole point is that it’s new and fancy. Either way, it has a very similar silhouette which is more important imo than the trim or knee pad. Plus, it’s likely bionic, so there’s no actual greave.
Why would it more likely be different from the current models though? We've seen dozens of new plastic Sisters, and none of them have this trim on their armour, or a vaguely similar style of greave - including the one figure with a bionic leg. Sure, they can introduce something new, but it sure is more likely to be part of a range that already contains those designs. Not expecting this to be a Sister, and quite right, they don't need new sets for a while.

I’m partially basing this off the several chaplains we got that have ornate trimmed greaves despite normal primaris not having those. Same basic shape but with extra trim for bling. Plus, just compare intercessors with blade guard. Same silhouette but with added bling. And considering how well sisters sold and how they featured in the marketing animation, there’s enough reason to believe GW will try unnecessarily expanding their range, just like with marines.

I just don’t think the trim is an indication of anything other than it being imperium. It’s certainly common across multiple imperium factions. We also know for sure a palatine is on the way, so new sisters are definitely on the way. But it’s all speculation, so I’m more likely to be wrong than right.

**Segersgia**

Reminds me of Verydian's Boots

**Kanluwen**

Totalwar1402 wrote:

How? The Skitari foot is a slab of metal meant to show how they’ve been chopped up by the tech priests and rendered inhuman cyborgs. Not an ornate, vaguely feminine, slightly kinky boot whose front vaguely resembles a certain piece of artwork. I get that there’s a joint at the ankle but you see that on the Canoness bionic as well. We saw a more detailed Skitari commander in the teaser and he isn’t remotely like that model. To be Admech it would need to be a totally new unit type of robo assassin women or something like that. Which is quite left field.

Please note that I did not say the foot was what I called out. I called out the kneepad and the trim on the legplate. And while yeah, the front resembles that blanche art...it's not like any of the Skitarii legs that you so helpfully pointed out are robotic are male or female. Even the one previewed with the Palantine is the same way: they're just made to look like the 'bones' of a leg.

I don't know what this is. I'm leaning towards Mechanicus over anything else, with Knights or Scions as the runner-up. Especially since the trim is not a fleur de lys but rather the arrows of the Mech/Scions setups.

I’ve been more convinced by the argument it’s a Fem Knight due to the shape of the trim. But then because Sisters models are quite small they might be adding that on a more upscaled model.

I am pretty convinced it’s big sisters or some kind of mini mini Knight. Although a completely humanoid Knight would be a departure as well.
But we know they are getting a new unit in the Palatine and possibly codex pretty soon. GW did an article recently reflecting on how well the range went. It’s really not impossible they might get a second wave.

If it’s an upscaled variant of Sisters armour you would want to add more trim and change certain setups like the knee and foot. You would want to visually distinguish it in he same way a Hevay Intercessors doesn’t look like an Intercessor. But still keep general look. For example on the resin Canoness they do have a more rounded foot and a separate segment at the knee. Making the knee a separate section rather than one block is probably a design choice to add more detail.

And even then, it would still be weird for the trim to be added when even the Canoness don't feature it.

Though you do bring up an interesting point about 'Heavy Intercessors'. One of the most heavily requested things for Skitarii oriented lists were heavy/special weapon styled squads...and the heavier legplate shown here would not be wildly out of place for something of that nature.

**Sotahullu**

Well I am going with AdMech on this one, some supporting character. Feels and shows bit mechanical.

**cody.d.**

zamerion wrote:

advent calendar
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/12/01/the-advent-rumour-engine-24-days-of-warhammer-sneak-peeks/

New arbites?

Does anyone else think that the size of the detailing on the top and bottom makes it look like it could be a much larger model? Perhaps a nanbai model for sisters? Or a super heavy walker for them, like a mechanical statue or some such.

**posermcbogus**

Man, I love coming into this thread just for all the totally outlandish theories that people have completely convinced themselves are the most plausible and reasonable outcomes. Shine on you crazy diamonds!

**cody.d.**

posermcbogus wrote:
Man, I love coming into this thread just for all the totally outlandish theories that people have completely convinced themselves are the most plausible and reasonable outcomes. Shine on you crazy diamonds!

I mean, if you went back 3 editions and told people that marines would get a hover tank with a plasma or minigun main turret with sponsons over the doorways and grenade launchers on the side of the turrets they'd probably tell you yer nuts. GW puts out some weird gak mate, any guess we make is likely as not to be spot on these days.

**Voss**

cody.d. wrote:
zamerion wrote:

advent calendar
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/12/01/the-advent-rumour-engine-24-days-of-warhammer-sneak-peeks/

New arbites?

Does anyone else think that the size of the detailing on the top and bottom makes it look like it could be a much larger model? Perhaps a nanbai model for sisters? Or a super heavy walker for them, like a mechanical statue or some such.

Nope. Just looks like a GW painter absurdly overused 'edge highlighting' again.

**Tiberius501**

I am totally going to guess it’s the AdMech character coming with their book.

**cody.d.**

Tiberius501 wrote:
I am totally going to guess it’s the AdMech character coming with their book.

Possible. But they don't usually do much to show off feminine traits do they? An inquisitor perhaps? It does look like a well made piece of tech whatever it is.

**Tiberius501**

cody.d. wrote:
Tiberius501 wrote:
I am totally going to guess it’s the AdMech character coming with their book.

Possible. But they don't usually do much to show off feminine traits do they? An inquisitor perhaps? It does look like a well made piece of tech whatever it is.

I’m not sure if it’s feminine, could be though. Just reminds me of the normal Skitarii legs but much more ornate, and the other details remind me the AdMech. That said, it’s curvy enough to be a female leg and I wouldn’t be surprised by another inquisitor model. I am however almost 100% certain the foot is a prosthetic/robot foot.

**dogfender**

Wow I wonder what that sisters of battle leg could be attached to?
Can’t wait for a teaser of a space marine shoulder pad as if it is something not expected at this point.

**terry**

Segersgia wrote:
Reminds me of Verydian's Boots

except this model was a homeage to the old sisters of battle codex art and not a regulair model of the range

**StraightSilver**

That armour is almost identical to the armour on Imperial Knights?

So it might be a new Imperial Knight special character or (totally on a limb) infantry for Knight houses?

**silverstu**

I'm not sure it is a leg- the "foot" looks off- short and heavy. Its looks like it might be a Library attached to the top of something.. [then again is probably just a sisters model..]

**Dudeface**

StraightSilver wrote:
That armour is almost identical to the armour on Imperial Knights?

So it might be a new Imperial Knight special character or (totally on a limb) infantry for Knight houses?

That's my hopes despite not being a collector, would be a cool opportunity.

**zamerion**

**Kanluwen**

Ecclesiarchy or Inquisition...take yer pick!

**Theophony**

Paperboy squig

**Mr_Rose**

Greatcoat guard adjutant.

**JSG**

Inquisitorial Retinue.

**PoorGravitasHandling**

There was that crazy rumor about the next killteam box being greatcoats v ork kommandos