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 Marshal Loss wrote:

this could be the backside of the one with the book under the arm

Looks like a ministorum conclave/advisors. Would make sense as it would update unit entries in both the guard and sisters book in one fell swoop.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Not my work, but worth sharing.
Mostly just theories, nothing 100% confirmed

Thanks for posting that here.

I'm very curious about that March Underworlds warband and I agree with the connection they made with all the fancy swords.

I'm hoping it's the Umbraneth finally, the silhouette sure looks like and Elf to me, but I doubt we'd get another DoK set so soon..

 Red Viper wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Not my work, but worth sharing.
Mostly just theories, nothing 100% confirmed

Thanks for posting that here.

I'm very curious about that March Underworlds warband and I agree with the connection they made with all the fancy swords.

I'm hoping it's the Umbraneth finally, the silhouette sure looks like and Elf to me, but I doubt we'd get another DoK set so soon..

but the symbol underneath is almost certain death related

Excited for whatever the reveals turn out to be. And whatever that unknown Warband is.
I think that would be a perfect place to do Vampire Pirates, like many of the unique interesting warbands they’ve done so far, they don’t have to lead to anything army wise.
Just a few nice models someone wanted to sculpt getting a use I guess..

The only warband so far that 'didn't lead to anything army wise' were the wolfriders.

terry wrote:

but the symbol underneath is almost certain death related

I agree it looks more like vampires, but who knows what the Umbraneth have been doing in the shadows. There was that strange creature at the end of Morathi.

 Shadox wrote:
The only warband so far that 'didn't lead to anything army wise' were the wolfriders.

And Kurnothi who also have not led to anything. Both they and the wolf riders could simply be exercises in creative freedom, much like how GW has done with Blackstone Fortress; or they might be portents to the future or they might just be one that turns into the other.

 Overread wrote:

 Shadox wrote:
The only warband so far that 'didn't lead to anything army wise' were the wolfriders.

And Kurnothi who also have not led to anything. Both they and the wolf riders could simply be exercises in creative freedom, much like how GW has done with Blackstone Fortress; or they might be portents to the future or they might just be one that turns into the other.

Ah yeah sorry. I always forget about the two from the beastgrave box, even though beastmen are my favourite

I do hope there are some undead in the pipeline soon. They only have like, 3 factions, Bonereapers, Nighthuant and Flesh eaters. and one of those is just a faction made from 3 kits+a finecast model.
Death needs some love put into it

 Red Viper wrote:

terry wrote:

but the symbol underneath is almost certain death related

I agree it looks more like vampires, but who knows what the Umbraneth have been doing in the shadows. There was that strange creature at the end of Morathi.

Where did the name "Umbraneth" start from, out of curiosity? They're called "Shadowkin". I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

Also, have you read the bit about Ven Brecht? His bloodline has "fallen to depravity and barbarism" after accepting the Soulblight Curse to survive the Age of Chaos.
That story with the creature you're referring to? It's pretty clearly meant to be a vampire of some kind.

I'm pretty confident that many of the rumour engines show flesheaters.



Number 5 and 6 are quite ambiguous, I give you that, but 5 could be a musician and 6 is kinda close to the Abhorent from last year, could be kurnothi though. 7 and 8 could be a new corpse cart.

 Overread wrote:

 Shadox wrote:
The only warband so far that 'didn't lead to anything army wise' were the wolfriders.

And Kurnothi who also have not led to anything. Both they and the wolf riders could simply be exercises in creative freedom, much like how GW has done with Blackstone Fortress; or they might be portents to the future or they might just be one that turns into the other.

Wolfriders, at least, were hinted at in the Gloomspite Gitz book. There was some huge gobbo schism between followers of The Bad Moon and The Evil Sun. It's resulted in two distinctive breeds of gobbos--the Bad Moon worshipers(Gloomspite Gitz and the Spiderfangs) and the Evil Sun worshipers(of which the wolf riders were hinted at being part of).

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Red Viper wrote:

terry wrote:

but the symbol underneath is almost certain death related

I agree it looks more like vampires, but who knows what the Umbraneth have been doing in the shadows. There was that strange creature at the end of Morathi.

Where did the name "Umbraneth" start from, out of curiosity? They're called "Shadowkin". I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

Also, have you read the bit about Ven Brecht? His bloodline has "fallen to depravity and barbarism" after accepting the Soulblight Curse to survive the Age of Chaos.
That story with the creature you're referring to? It's pretty clearly meant to be a vampire of some kind.

There was a section of a WarCom article shared around a while back that had the word Umbraneth in it, which I believe turned out to be faked.

Has anyone else noticed how obtuse and irritating the new design is? Showing only silhouettes and forcing you to click and open in a new tab? Why tf make that change halfway through?!!

Legend has it that when the Khainite Shadowstalker's AoS rules were revealed, the article originally had Umbraneth listed instead of Daughters of Khaine.

It was quickly changed to the DoK though.

EDIT: Also, the full name could end up as Umbraneth Shadowkin or something. Like the Idoneth Deepkin and the Lumineth Realm-Lord...kin. You get the idea

 LiftForSwift wrote:
Has anyone else noticed how obtuse and irritating the new design is? Showing only silhouettes and forcing you to click and open in a new tab? Why tf make that change halfway through?!!

Yeah. Such nonsense.

It wouldn't have even been a good idea had they done it from the start. Then again they also switched the normal rumor engine from thumbnail image to "generating image" image recently as if they're afraid the tiny picture is good enough for people not to click to see the higher resolution one.

 Red Viper wrote:
Legend has it that when the Khainite Shadowstalker's AoS rules were revealed, the article originally had Umbraneth listed instead of Daughters of Khaine.

It was quickly changed to the DoK though.

EDIT: Also, the full name could end up as Umbraneth Shadowkin or something. Like the Idoneth Deepkin and the Lumineth Realm-Lord...kin. You get the idea

Assuming it's the only article I can find a reference to? It had no mention of Umbraneth that I can recall. That's why I'm so confused about it. Only place I can see mentioning it is a lone sprues and brews article. Scrolling through the Twitters, the first mention is on October 22nd at 7:19am by Sprues and Brews...of an article that was on October 21st.

Interestingly we had two posts with the name "Umbraneth" here on Dakka in the AoS N&R thread...on the 21st at 7 something pm and in reply to that. Then nothing until today.

 Geifer wrote:

 LiftForSwift wrote:
Has anyone else noticed how obtuse and irritating the new design is? Showing only silhouettes and forcing you to click and open in a new tab? Why tf make that change halfway through?!!

Yeah. Such nonsense.

It wouldn't have even been a good idea had they done it from the start. Then again they also switched the normal rumor engine from thumbnail image to "generating image" image recently as if they're afraid the tiny picture is good enough for people not to click to see the higher resolution one.

It's because people were able to dig the images out of the page media info before they ever got posted.

This is the image that circulated, with the claim that the article was uploaded with Umbraneth and then changed. But I’ve seen mention that it was confirmed to be faked, by whoever faked it, but nothing firsthand to confirm either way.

Yep, that's the image I was able to find too--only on Sprues and Brews though. Didn't even see it mentioned on Reddit!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/jfobdo/shadow_aelves_name_accidentally_leaked_in_a_now/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYs6uh-_0mQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShWG84XvoQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zVVUwkBCVQ

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/4941

https://spikeybits.com/2020/10/rumors-gw-accidently-reveals-next-aos-army-aelves.html

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2020/10/new-aelven-faction-coming-shadow-aelves.html

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?page=1900

Not trying to be a dick, I just saw it discussed a few places and I don't even follow the rumors that closely. Maybe google and youtube just have me figured out

EDIT: Also, just because it was all over some rumor sites, doesn't mean it's not fake. Who knows

Not clicking Natfka, Spikeybits, or the Youtubes--but the Last Alliance post is from the 22nd of October and the Reddit post is a whole month after the article in question on Warhammer Community. The War of Sigmar one seems to be the 22nd as well.

Are we REALLY saying that there was a whole day worth of that article being up that nobody caught the name Umbraneth?

Edit note: there's a mention of it on the 21st on Last Alliance and that same picture linked.

Here's the whole problem I'm having with it: why was this image not all over the place?

The TGA post started talking about Umbraneth the same day as the article, October 21st.

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?do=findComment&comment=463345

/shrug

 Red Viper wrote:
The TGA post started talking about Umbraneth the same day as the article, October 21st.

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?do=findComment&comment=463345

/shrug

The original bit you linked goes to the 22nd. But yeah, as I noted in my edit, it got mentioned on the 21st with that image. Seemingly five or six hours after the article went up at 9:41am Eastern.

But again: this is where the big problem keeps coming for me. Nobody linked it here? We had one person mention it on the 22nd--the day it hit the blogosphere--and then it was basically unmentioned until you brought it up today.

Sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, I'm just now deeply involved in figuring out the mystery surrounding this.

Hell, I just found out I'm the person who linked the article here on Dakka!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Red Viper wrote:
The TGA post started talking about Umbraneth the same day as the article, October 21st.

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?do=findComment&comment=463345

/shrug

The original bit you linked goes to the 22nd. But yeah, as I noted in my edit, it got mentioned on the 21st with that image. Seemingly five or six hours after the article went up.

But again: this is where the big problem keeps coming for me. Nobody linked it here? We had one person mention it on the 22nd--the day it hit the blogosphere--and then it was basically unmentioned until you brought it up today.

Sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, I'm just now deeply involved in figuring out the mystery surrounding this.

This is the post I saw about it being faked. Hardly definitive, but it’s just the one image of it going round, I imagine more people would have seen it were it real.
https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?do=findComment&comment=467422

 Kanluwen wrote:


Sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, I'm just now deeply involved in figuring out the mystery surrounding this.

Haha, no worries. It's good to take rumors with some salt.

I didn't think it was that strange, and the places I saw it mentioned... only a couple of comments on reddit questioned it's authenticity.

With Slaanesh breaking free and Morathi's shenanigans, I've only very recently begun to follow rumors again. I've been waiting for Malerion and I think the Broken Realms is getting there

EDIT:

 ImAGeek wrote:

This is the post I saw about it being faked. Hardly definitive, but it’s just the one image of it going round, I imagine more people would have seen it were it real.
https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?do=findComment&comment=467422

Cheers, thanks for posting that. It definitely pushes me more towards doubting it.

I've been waiting for Malerion since the Shadowkin got namedropped in the Fyreslayers book alongside their "Shroudling Lords". They've been one of the most frustrating things to wait on and it definitely has been also one of the most faked/trolled things. Hence the salt.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I've been waiting for Malerion since the Shadowkin got namedropped in the Fyreslayers book alongside their "Shroudling Lords". They've been one of the most frustrating things to wait on and it definitely has been also one of the most faked/trolled things. Hence the salt.

Yeah I was a Dark Elf player from 6th through 8th. Converted my stuff to Twilight Kin for KoW since, no regrets.

I haven't bought any AoS stuff.... just waiting for Malerion. DoK tempted me, but I don't like what Morathi is up to. Lumineth tempted me, but I want to see the Tyrion half. Forever waiting..

Seems like the trolls know we're waiting too. It'd be funny if it's faked, but it still got their name right. It's a good guess at least

Remember fellows, Kanluwen is a pathological contrarian, as evidenced in part by his continued insistence on both of these being fakes, despite both being very obviously real




Put me in the "Definitely legit" column of whatever rumour you're discussing if he says it's inauthentic.

 Shadox wrote:
I'm pretty confident that many of the rumour engines show flesheaters.



Number 5 and 6 are quite ambiguous, I give you that, but 5 could be a musician and 6 is kinda close to the Abhorent from last year, could be kurnothi though. 7 and 8 could be a new corpse cart.

IDK, could be, im gonna hold out a little bit.
I mean, These guys where originally one of the factions that where just cobbled together, like night haunt. then with the recent tome they committed to them being a full army, with a tome.
So my hope is that it true.