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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 12:56:52
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: World Eaters
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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Tyel wrote:Voss wrote:What kind of gibberish are you typing?
Is there something unclear about how strange it is for someone to paint over details for a display showcase?
I tend to agree with you that for a display army its not great.
But the idea you've never "in person" seen someone paint a tabard or cloak as single solid colour feels like a stretch. Hence the meme.
Frankly I'd say the moment people are putting additional colours on raised tabard and cloak edges, you are into an above average paint job. I'd do it now - but I didn't for years.
To add my own .02 in: I'm just happy when I see a painted army, or at least an army that isn't just primed black (which is the most common thing I see besides unpainted models).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 13:08:00
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 13:08:54
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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Hot damn, that's spicy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 13:28:24
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 13:38:04
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It was really unfortunate for the Death Guard that they all forgot how to use heavy weapons after the Heresy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 13:49:46
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: World Eaters
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Terrifying Doombull
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Tyel wrote:Voss wrote:What kind of gibberish are you typing?
Is there something unclear about how strange it is for someone to paint over details for a display showcase?
I tend to agree with you that for a display army its not great.
But the idea you've never "in person" seen someone paint a tabard or cloak as single solid colour feels like a stretch. Hence the meme.
Frankly I'd say the moment people are putting additional colours on raised tabard and cloak edges, you are into an above average paint job. I'd do it now - but I didn't for years.
I don't know what to tell you, when I've met people who bother to paint their armies, they actually do that. Not just do a metallic spray and block-base coat a couple surfaces.
The 'meme' stuff is still gibberish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 14:02:41
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Emboldened Warlock
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Guys, we're only human. All of the creators painted their models on top of their other obligations to get the models ready in time for the event. There are lots of people who have regular day job and do all of their content in their spare time. I spent almost 50 hours on my Primarch alone, mostly during night time, and the box has over 50 models, do the math how long it'd take you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 14:02:57
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Araqiel
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Looks like they cleaned up the wording on the deathguard faction rule since the leaks.
As a salamanders fan, I'm a little bit tickled that death guard are no longer being defined in the rules as particularly tough, just hard to slow down. They won't have the same durability as the iron hands / salamanders will.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 14:27:24
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Fixture of Dakka
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Lord Damocles wrote:It was really unfortunate for the Death Guard that they all forgot how to use heavy weapons after the Heresy.
All those tentacles and antlers and boils get in the way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 14:35:42
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Annandale, VA
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Have to say, I'm a little wary of them continuing the flowery but unintuitive USR naming schemes. 'Remorseless' is not a label I would choose for ignoring movement modifiers. Or does everyone else only slow down in terrain because they feel really guilty about trampling the foliage?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 14:41:54
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Remorseless does have a second meaning that is more fitting to what the rule is portraying: "(of something unpleasant) never ending or improving; relentless."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 14:47:32
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Matt.Kingsley wrote:Remorseless does have a second meaning that is more fitting to what the rule is portraying: "(of something unpleasant) never ending or improving; relentless."
"Relentless" already exists as a USR (as does "Slow and Purposeful"). Automatically Appended Next Post: Hobbyists Pick a Side for Warhammer: The Horus Heresy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 15:30:56
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Speak for yourself!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 16:24:12
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Only human? You say that as if humanity isn't the pinnacle of existence, capable of making the impossible possible through sheer force of will and a case of illegal Japanese energy drinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 17:34:21
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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stahly wrote:Guys, we're only human. All of the creators painted their models on top of their other obligations to get the models ready in time for the event. There are lots of people who have regular day job and do all of their content in their spare time. I spent almost 50 hours on my Primarch alone, mostly during night time, and the box has over 50 models, do the math how long it'd take you.
If a creator is overwhelmed, are they allowed to request to decline receiving for such an event?
Rhetorical question since I am pretty sure that falls under the NDA.
Seems like GW would be smart to excuse someone who doesn’t feel they can commit the necessary time rather than risk burning someone out.
Since they are essentially paying for a service, you would think they at least contact the channels beforehand to ensure they have availability to properly do what they’re being asked.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 17:52:05
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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privateer4hire wrote: stahly wrote:Guys, we're only human. All of the creators painted their models on top of their other obligations to get the models ready in time for the event. There are lots of people who have regular day job and do all of their content in their spare time. I spent almost 50 hours on my Primarch alone, mostly during night time, and the box has over 50 models, do the math how long it'd take you.
If a creator is overwhelmed, are they allowed to request to decline receiving for such an event?
Rhetorical question since I am pretty sure that falls under the NDA.
Seems like GW would be smart to excuse someone who doesn’t feel they can commit the necessary time rather than risk burning someone out.
Since they are essentially paying for a service, you would think they at least contact the channels beforehand to ensure they have availability to properly do what they’re being asked.
Sounds like you want people to plan in advance for their obligations with no flexibility for other stuff coming up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 18:05:18
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Did this already get shared here?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 18:09:41
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Foxy Wildborne
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It's the paper sprue-book separator from the box. What about it?
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 18:10:52
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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I just was curious if it had been posted or not. Supposedly, that's a new Contemptor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 18:13:59
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Foxy Wildborne
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Oh yeah it has an asscannon in the picture but it's not on the sprue in the box.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 18:16:27
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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The contemptor in the picture is the plastic one that we've seen BUT it has parts from a not yet shown upgrade sprue.
You can see the Relic Contemptor details on the front and a Kheres assault cannon, neither of which is in the box set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 18:18:34
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Foxy Wildborne
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It's also clear from the sprues that there's a regular Land Raider coming, as the sponsons can be built with either 4 or 2 lascannon.
Ash also suspects a plastic Leviathan dread, because the one in the book is based the same as the new box set plastics, rather than older models, so it was painted at the same time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 18:47:05
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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catbarf wrote:
Have to say, I'm a little wary of them continuing the flowery but unintuitive USR naming schemes. 'Remorseless' is not a label I would choose for ignoring movement modifiers. Or does everyone else only slow down in terrain because they feel really guilty about trampling the foliage?
You are correct. Remorseless is quite weak for a name. How about:
- Juggernaut
- Unstoppable
- Tireless
- Endurance
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 18:47:06
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ClockworkZion wrote: privateer4hire wrote: stahly wrote:Guys, we're only human. All of the creators painted their models on top of their other obligations to get the models ready in time for the event. There are lots of people who have regular day job and do all of their content in their spare time. I spent almost 50 hours on my Primarch alone, mostly during night time, and the box has over 50 models, do the math how long it'd take you.
If a creator is overwhelmed, are they allowed to request to decline receiving for such an event?
Rhetorical question since I am pretty sure that falls under the NDA.
Seems like GW would be smart to excuse someone who doesn’t feel they can commit the necessary time rather than risk burning someone out.
Since they are essentially paying for a service, you would think they at least contact the channels beforehand to ensure they have availability to properly do what they’re being asked.
Sounds like you want people to plan in advance for their obligations with no flexibility for other stuff coming up.
Nope. I am asking if gw routinely contact their content creators before they send them a ton of free stuff to showcase just to make reasonably sure the creators have availability. People have work projects, vacations, family illness, etc. that could derail a creator from getting $300 big box ready by date X. Stuff will happen but gw is paying in product for a service. Probably a good idea to confirm they have the time to meet a deadline.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 19:23:26
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ahhh yes, Horus Heresy Superfans, like Ninjon and Miniac....
https://youtu.be/0eC1mRKmAiY?t=6892
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 19:33:56
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Powerful Ushbati
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privateer4hire wrote: stahly wrote:Guys, we're only human. All of the creators painted their models on top of their other obligations to get the models ready in time for the event. There are lots of people who have regular day job and do all of their content in their spare time. I spent almost 50 hours on my Primarch alone, mostly during night time, and the box has over 50 models, do the math how long it'd take you.
If a creator is overwhelmed, are they allowed to request to decline receiving for such an event?
Rhetorical question since I am pretty sure that falls under the NDA.
Seems like GW would be smart to excuse someone who doesn’t feel they can commit the necessary time rather than risk burning someone out.
Since they are essentially paying for a service, you would think they at least contact the channels beforehand to ensure they have availability to properly do what they’re being asked.
I don't know, but one of the unboxing videos I saw this morning said that the box was sent to him "months" ago. Whatever that means. Still, I think people are beating a dead horse over the IW guy's models. Doesn't seem worth crying about endlessly...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 19:34:09
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Do they not qualify as fans? Honest question
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 19:40:53
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You tell me.
Can someone say "feth the HH" and "I'm not a fething fan" then basically say I'm just in it for the free gak and trip, and still be a fan?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 19:42:57
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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TalonZahn wrote:
You tell me.
Can someone say "feth the HH" and "I'm not a fething fan" then basically say I'm just in it for the free gak and trip, and still be a fan?
Apparently so. I understand now. I don’t follow them so I didn’t appreciate the level of their fandom. Thanks Automatically Appended Next Post: ClockworkZion wrote:Tyel wrote:Voss wrote:What kind of gibberish are you typing?
Is there something unclear about how strange it is for someone to paint over details for a display showcase?
I tend to agree with you that for a display army its not great.
But the idea you've never "in person" seen someone paint a tabard or cloak as single solid colour feels like a stretch. Hence the meme.
Frankly I'd say the moment people are putting additional colours on raised tabard and cloak edges, you are into an above average paint job. I'd do it now - but I didn't for years.
To add my own .02 in: I'm just happy when I see a painted army, or at least an army that isn't just primed black (which is the most common thing I see besides unpainted models).
We had a guy in springfield Virginia about 20 years ago who was badgered by the gw manager about three colors minimum. So he primed his eldar white and sat down with two paint brushes, one dipped in yellow, the other blue. Each figure got a splatter of the two extra colors and he based them in flock.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/25 19:50:38
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Imperial Fist Upgrades + Legion Focus: Ultramarines
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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They both say they aren't HH fans in terms of playing the game. In terms of painting the models, they are huge fans. They even say it in the Youtube link just above.
Do I care if they are "real" fans? Not really. I don't look to them for anything other than painting.
As far as these YouTube Content Creators/ GW Painting People - I like Tyler Mengel more because the guy is always posting AOS stuff and asking for list suggestions, provides feedback, and then follows back up with you when you follow his guide (I love his Imperial Fist color scheme - glazing yellows). Same goes for his Maggotkin - if you're on any FB message boards, he is really active. I'd also assume he does the same with Nighthaunt now that they are getting a new book.
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