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Holy ****, a release!

So will these go along regular plastic? Replace regular plastic? Be a one time deal until they sell out?

We dont know.

 CragHack wrote:
So will these go along regular plastic? Replace regular plastic? Be a one time deal until they sell out?

Says in the article they won't be replacing existing miniatures.

And the clear ghosties are up already:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/11/26/sunday-preview-noble-knights-with-pennants-flying/

Also while stocks last. So just a splash release then.

Delayed in Canada and US

chaos0xomega wrote:
Ive heard from friends who have painted translucent minis for malifaux that they are a nightmare to paint well because you can very easily overpaint them and ruin the translucent effect, etc. I would guess that having an airbrush probably helps a lot.

Your friend is 100% correct. The translucent Malifaux figures are best left well alone unless you want to play them translucent.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/12/07/battles-in-middle-earth-heres-how-throne-of-skulls-2023-went-down/

For those not interested in clicking the link, it's just a short collection of images for the best painted and a single list that won which was Eomer's Legendary Legion.

The outfit is a classy touch.

I enjoyed it as well, not sure if it served a purpose or if theres a story behind it, etc. but its a cute look lol

He's the sun on the 5th day

You should go have a look at the GBHL on Youtube. Damian runs the channel there.

Vorian wrote:
He's the sun on the 5th day

Ahhh. I had a feeling it was a joke or a reference to something but couldn't figure it out lol. Thanks for that.

Interesting to see that the Riders of Eomer legion won an event. I would have thought it was a bit too limited for comp play, but then again Rohan does seem to be one of the stronger armies in the game right now. Maybe it just goes to show that Middle-Earth is so well balanced that just about any army, piloted competently, can win.

It was an event that awarded a lot of points outside of the games and encouraged softer or more themed lists. So it isn't really representative of more competitive events.

A brief glimpse of the first (re)release for Middle-Earth of 2024, and the next MTO preview

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/01/25/the-road-goes-ever-on-a-look-ahead-to-2024-in-the-middle-earth-strategy-battle-game/

Starting to feel like they're taking the piss with some of these, Heroes of Helm's Deep, Gamling and Theoden again, for, what, the fourth time?

At least theyre including the best Eomer sculpt this time around, and I think this is the first outing for Defenders of Rohan. The command set is ace, I don't know about the banner bearer but I believe the captain is a former army set exclusive?

Well damn, actual news. Some incredibly expensive models that are coming MTO and actual new stuff. There's an Eru after all.


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 Tim the Biovore wrote:
A brief glimpse of the first (re)release for Middle-Earth of 2024, and the next MTO preview

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/01/25/the-road-goes-ever-on-a-look-ahead-to-2024-in-the-middle-earth-strategy-battle-game/

Starting to feel like they're taking the piss with some of these, Heroes of Helm's Deep, Gamling and Theoden again, for, what, the fourth time?

At least theyre including the best Eomer sculpt this time around, and I think this is the first outing for Defenders of Rohan. The command set is ace, I don't know about the banner bearer but I believe the captain is a former army set exclusive?

Defenders of Rohan has never been done and are exceptionally expensive, as is Eomer and the sword armed Gamling. The captain was a magazine exclusive that never got a re-release. Good choices i think.

Ooh good news. What do we think the campaign book will be about? Initially I thought it might be a Umbar or Harad based one as we haven't seen anything from that quarter yet. But someone else reminded me of the potential for Last Alliance, which had completely slipped my mind.
Last Alliance makes sense. Elrond re-released in plastic, the heavily hinted at Gil-Galad redo from the stream last year. A new plastic Sauron would be great.

The MtO is a stonker too! That elusive mounted Eomer will finally be mine, as will that very rare captain. Defenders is also a must have for me, as I actually have none of those minis, despite both Gamling and Hama being somewhat common. I have both mounted Theoden and Gamling (although it is nice to see that Gamling available again!) and all but the elf banner from the Heroes set. So should be a cheaper MtO for me.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
Starting to feel like they're taking the piss with some of these

At least it's not Haldir's Elves again!
Which in something of a cruel irony, despite the amount of times they have been up for MtO, i've never had the excess funds for the. Now I do have cash available and they're not here...

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
The captain was a magazine exclusive that never got a re-release. Good choices i think.

He was an army box exclusive. The magazine exclusive was (initially) Ugluk who later got released in a blister pack alongside Vrasku. And an alternate version of Gandalf the white on foot who was standing on the rock, who was later released (or had been previously released, I forget) as a version without the rock.



EDIT: 8000th post.

I was annoyed by that post today. After months of nothing (nothing new) they say "hey, we have something new in the works" and hint at absolutely nothing nor when.

They did strongly hint at Gil-Galad, what, over a year ago now? Maybe 2. We have seen nothing but MTO.

I'm sorry... we seen a very limited and extremely expensive "get off the road" model that has no value in games.

If they are working on something I hope it's something good, and big like Last Alliance. I'm very doubtful.

I haven't bought and LotR in years (I tracked pretty much everything I wanted down when they were doing the fine cast switch, I like my metal). But if they went and brought out new plastics for the Last Alliance (as in troops, not just a couple characters) then I'd be making some purchases.

The obvious choice would of course be a Last Alliance supplement. Anarion, hero resculpts, Plastic Sauron and most importantly, high elves & numenor plastic kits. Maybe a cheeky Khazad-Dum Legendary Legion. But I have to say I am a bit pessimistic with regards to new plastic troops at this point. Well, we have to wait and see.

MTO: Shamefully, I still have the Theoden and Gamling from the Warg Attack box NIB from a previous MTO. Lovely sculpts, I really need to get to painting those. But I will definitely get Eomer and the Captain. Great sculpts.

zombie_sky_diver wrote:They did strongly hint at Gil-Galad, what, over a year ago now? Maybe 2. We have seen nothing but MTO.

Uh.. Mid '22 from memory. That's when Elrond was announced. Then April last year, they teased that they were working on something they couldn't talk about.

Dawnbringer wrote:But if they went and brought out new plastics for the Last Alliance (as in troops, not just a couple characters) then I'd be making some purchases.

If we base our assumptions around models that have been released/teased/talked about then Last Alliance seems likely. The other possibility is maybe a Battle for Lothlorien supplement as the Galadhrim Court guard redo as well as Rumil & Orophin would indicate there's something going on in that there.

Other avenues could be Umbar or Harad/Far Harad as they haven't been the focus of a supplement yet, or (and this the one I'm hoping for personally) is a Fall of Arnor/Rise of Angmar book.

 Snrub wrote:


The other possibility is maybe a Battle for Lothlorien supplement as the Galadhrim Court guard redo as well as Rumil & Orophin would indicate there's something going on in that there.

Other avenues could be Umbar or Harad/Far Harad as they haven't been the focus of a supplement yet, or (and this the one I'm hoping for personally) is a Fall of Arnor/Rise of Angmar book.

I doubt GW would release models over a year before bringing out a book that highlights them, that's not the way they do things. We know they can keep some sculpts awaiting release for long times, so to me if they were going to do a Lothlorian supplement they would have held back those releases to go with the book.

As for Umbar / Harad, depends how far you want to go back, they had a source book in 2008, and Arnor / Angmar had one in 2006/7 (yes, I've been around that long. Ha) but I assume you mean since it became MESBG.

 Snrub wrote:

zombie_sky_diver wrote:They did strongly hint at Gil-Galad, what, over a year ago now? Maybe 2. We have seen nothing but MTO.

Uh.. Mid '22 from memory. That's when Elrond was announced. Then April last year, they teased that they were working on something they couldn't talk about.

Dawnbringer wrote:But if they went and brought out new plastics for the Last Alliance (as in troops, not just a couple characters) then I'd be making some purchases.

If we base our assumptions around models that have been released/teased/talked about then Last Alliance seems likely. The other possibility is maybe a Battle for Lothlorien supplement as the Galadhrim Court guard redo as well as Rumil & Orophin would indicate there's something going on in that there.

Other avenues could be Umbar or Harad/Far Harad as they haven't been the focus of a supplement yet, or (and this the one I'm hoping for personally) is a Fall of Arnor/Rise of Angmar book.

One thing, what would speak in favor of the Arnor/Angmar book would be the lack of availability and missing MtOs at the moment of the Arnor & some Angmar (Shade and Gulavhar?) models. So they don't do a MtO because the range will be rotated back in with the supplement.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Well damn, actual news. Some incredibly expensive models that are coming MTO and actual new stuff. There's an Eru after all.


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 Tim the Biovore wrote:
A brief glimpse of the first (re)release for Middle-Earth of 2024, and the next MTO preview

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/01/25/the-road-goes-ever-on-a-look-ahead-to-2024-in-the-middle-earth-strategy-battle-game/

Starting to feel like they're taking the piss with some of these, Heroes of Helm's Deep, Gamling and Theoden again, for, what, the fourth time?

At least theyre including the best Eomer sculpt this time around, and I think this is the first outing for Defenders of Rohan. The command set is ace, I don't know about the banner bearer but I believe the captain is a former army set exclusive?

Defenders of Rohan has never been done and are exceptionally expensive, as is Eomer and the sword armed Gamling. The captain was a magazine exclusive that never got a re-release. Good choices i think.

Captain is a former army box exclusive. I don't think it came in the magazine. This is the only time its been released afaik:



Its probably the only miniature from the game I've paid over the odds to get as I brought that set last year for a bit more than its really worth as I honestly never thought it would see a release again.

Dawnbringer wrote:I doubt GW would release models over a year before bringing out a book that highlights them, that's not the way they do things. We know they can keep some sculpts awaiting release for long times, so to me if they were going to do a Lothlorian supplement they would have held back those releases to go with the book.

Ah I'd actually forgotten they included the assault of Lothlorien onto the Defence of the North book. Maybe they wont do a dedicated Lorien book then. Makes the Last Alliance look more and more likely.

As for Umbar / Harad, depends how far you want to go back, they had a source book in 2008, and Arnor / Angmar had one in 2006/7 (yes, I've been around that long. Ha) but I assume you mean since it became MESBG.

Yeah I did mean since they combined both LotR and Hobbit into Middle-earth. But yes, I do remember the OG supplement books. I myself started this (very expensive) journey back when Return of the King was released. I went with a friend to see it for his birthday and his mum got him the RoTK box. Completely changed my life that did.

Bago wrote:One thing, what would speak in favor of the Arnor/Angmar book would be the lack of availability and missing MtOs at the moment of the Arnor & some Angmar (Shade and Gulavhar?) models. So they don't do a MtO because the range will be rotated back in with the supplement.

Oh please god no. A full Arnor/Angmar Made to Order would financially cripple me.

Jay Clare was talking about a Last Alliance expansion as far back as ~2016 at least (at an event they were previewing the Lake-town houses from what I recall, whenever that was). And I guess it has been hoped for by fans for even longer (if only for the faint possibility of dedicated Elves and Númenórean plastics - it's amazing what just 2 plastic sprues could do!), and hinted as at least being considered several times. Does that mean it's even more likely, the longer time passes, or less likely? Either way, wouldn't be surprised to (finally) see it happen. Would be nice to get something resembling concrete information at some point soon...

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Jay Clare was talking about a Last Alliance expansion as far back as ~2016 at least (at an event they were previewing the Lake-town houses from what I recall, whenever that was). And I guess it has been hoped for by fans for even longer (if only for the faint possibility of dedicated Elves and Númenórean plastics - it's amazing what just 2 plastic sprues could do!), and hinted as at least being considered several times. Does that mean it's even more likely, the longer time passes, or less likely? Either way, wouldn't be surprised to (finally) see it happen. Would be nice to get something resembling concrete information at some point soon...

The future proofing of Anarion in the rule book does help these rumours

I'm very doubtful we will see plastic troops for anything, even if they did a Last Alliance supplement. It will probably all just go to FW.

When's the time we seen a plastic kit that wasn't terrain or a character? And even then, it's very, very rare. Elrond and the Gondor terrain was probably the most recent and that was 2022, no?

I'm not referring to the dead. That was an oddball alternate.

I don't expect much to come from LotR at all in truth. GW is just in an odd situation where they're supporting the game... but not actually supporting the game. It's like an illusion to make you think the game is being supported by them.