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hotsauceman1 wrote: I am SOOO tired of people buying stuff that doesnt really help or are buying it and not using it properly.
Yeah, Rubbing Alchohol kills the virus, but Cmon people you dont need it or to stock up on it, just wash your hands. I need it for airbrushing
I dont know why people are panic buying nail polish remover....but I cant find it.
And masks, particularly painting masks/respirators. Im not sure on the specifics, but im pretty sure the masks, especially particulate masks which i need for airbrushing, are not gonna help you and you will look stupid
Stop being selfish, buy what is reasonable and dont be a moron.
Eh...you might lack a certain perspective there, just a bit.
Anyway, hand sanitizer (and/or alcohol that you can use to make your own) is handy for those times when you're not able to immediately (or even 'soon') wash your hands.
And masks 'for airbrushing' are probably lower on the list then masks for...just about anything else health and safety related.
I mean, you can't possibly know what people are buying these things for - or if they're 'hoarding' them or not?
Or maybe they're all just airbrushing fans, like yourself.
Well it looks like they are one step closer to figuring out how this Corona virus got into people in the first place, it looks to have started off in Bats, but is probably too different to have made the jump to people in one go,
enter the Pangolin, the endangered little anteater with the cool looking scales which are in high demand for 'traditional' Chinese medicine
hopefully the Chinese government (and other countries) will crack down even harder on the trafficers
hotsauceman1 wrote: I am SOOO tired of people buying stuff that doesnt really help or are buying it and not using it properly.
Yeah, Rubbing Alchohol kills the virus, but Cmon people you dont need it or to stock up on it, just wash your hands. I need it for airbrushing
I dont know why people are panic buying nail polish remover....but I cant find it.
And masks, particularly painting masks/respirators. Im not sure on the specifics, but im pretty sure the masks, especially particulate masks which i need for airbrushing, are not gonna help you and you will look stupid
Stop being selfish, buy what is reasonable and dont be a moron.
Eh...you might lack a certain perspective there, just a bit.
Anyway, hand sanitizer (and/or alcohol that you can use to make your own) is handy for those times when you're not able to immediately (or even 'soon') wash your hands.
And masks 'for airbrushing' are probably lower on the list then masks for...just about anything else health and safety related.
I mean, you can't possibly know what people are buying these things for - or if they're 'hoarding' them or not?
Or maybe they're all just airbrushing fans, like yourself.
That is true, and i will admit im a little selfish in my thinking, but people are buying stuff in way more than what they need it seems.
My favourite part wasn't even the magnets up the nose, it was this:
However, the academic realised the electronic part he had did the opposite – and would only complete a circuit when there was no magnetic field present.
“I accidentally invented a necklace that buzzes continuously unless you move your hand close to your face,” he said.
Just so perfect that he would overlook that and end up making the complete opposite of what he intended
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Guam is going to be hard hit it appears with the Roosevelt there. No one from the ship is allowed off the pier. Yet there are single digit confirm cases among the general population. We're using daily/ring route flights there to ship in gear and stuff.
Camelbacks are a major shipping item now. Save your plastic water and jug containers. Don't go out and buy couple hundred pound of water FFS. Since some of us drank from a water buffalo we're immune (joke). Summer around the corner so google chlorine/water ratio just incase. the 1149 shipping document that was used they actually stated in reason "water contamination". 2K camelbacks to San Diego. Basically its a CYA. I haven't heard of the virus surviving in water.
Italy south is insane asylum think everyone knows. All US Military flights are routed to Viecienza to be flown out to Naples and Signeollawhatever. Azores Island holding firm.
Not sure I mention this already. All military installations with a chem lab making hand sanitizers for the US Military. So we don't buy off the market. Smell alone will get you .08 on BAC.
They are literally screening our drivers if they gone over 50 miles. Some had a fever so no access, some denied entry due to felony, and some just didn't have the right documentation. Was an issue this morning but a carrier we use has stepped in and actually hired damn near a medical team that screen the drivers before they even attempt to make our gate. There's a backup driver if needed there on the spot (he's looking up to five drivers on standby). Also he hired, I gak you not, a carpet cleaning team to nuke sanitize the driver carpartment before new driver goes in it. One crafty Ukrainian and we love him. He even maintain his own rates. So expedited to San Dieago is lightly over 9K two day delivery. 5 day delivery to east coast like 14K. think FL is 17K. Hotshot so two drivers.
We're actually cponsidering a GLOC outside our gates
Rit. Don't take Motrin (Ibuprofin) till results are back
Two months they say its going to hit its peak. We call BS on that being its the end of allergy season. We figure six months to get an actual gage of the spread. Shop Talk basically but that's shooting the crap with the Corpmans
Our major concern is unemployment and how desperate people are going to get. As mention. People are stupid. People though get desperate and try to support their family. Be aware of that. Straight to the point on this. Don't kill the guy/gal on a B&E. Don't even involve the LEO's they other worse gak to deal with. If bad guy shoots first then by all means go at it but deescalate the situation and basically get the idiot out the building. Trust me. opting someone out of the game is not something you want to experience. This is 2020. Not the damn Wild West. Yes I open carry now as a deterrent but I've no desire to engage.
I'm seriously smoked physically and mentally burned out so pardon my spelling...and rant?
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While California labels me essential, work decided we are not going back with the extension to the end of may.
Im scheduled for training for a special case along with 4 other coworkers. They are talking about possibly having us do it, but IDK.
Its just more training vids until then.
This is going to be the death of me.
British police been given a mild dressing down for being overly heavy handed while enforcing the lock down. Good to see in my opinion. Some of the things they've done are ridiculous.
hotsauceman1 wrote: I am SOOO tired of people buying stuff that doesnt really help or are buying it and not using it properly.
Yeah, Rubbing Alchohol kills the virus, but Cmon people you dont need it or to stock up on it, just wash your hands. I need it for airbrushing
I dont know why people are panic buying nail polish remover....but I cant find it.
And masks, particularly painting masks/respirators. Im not sure on the specifics, but im pretty sure the masks, especially particulate masks which i need for airbrushing, are not gonna help you and you will look stupid
Stop being selfish, buy what is reasonable and dont be a moron.
Eh...you might lack a certain perspective there, just a bit.
Anyway, hand sanitizer (and/or alcohol that you can use to make your own) is handy for those times when you're not able to immediately (or even 'soon') wash your hands.
And masks 'for airbrushing' are probably lower on the list then masks for...just about anything else health and safety related.
I mean, you can't possibly know what people are buying these things for - or if they're 'hoarding' them or not?
Or maybe they're all just airbrushing fans, like yourself.
That is true, and i will admit im a little selfish in my thinking, but people are buying stuff in way more than what they need it seems.
Wait, this was a joke statement, right? I mean, you were being ironic. Because no sane human is that stuck up and selfish in a crisis like this. I have to assume you’re trying to be funny.
On a positive note...I’m going on paternity leave for 10 weeks while this is happening (furloughed at work being dropped to 60% of my paycheck, which is the same as paternity leave). So I’m freeing up my pay to allow my employer to pay people who don’t have this option and getting an identical paycheck to what I’d make at work during the virus. Being responsible as an employee, father, husband, and coworker to my peers. Plus, getting to take almost a quarter of the year off, combined with having worked from home for two weeks, and being financially stable and I’m set to ride this out (unless it proves to be unbeatable and the human race is screwed, in which case who cares).
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind.
If the later is the case, then i suggest we all invest collectivly into leather or scrap metal armor, stockpile bottlecaps and do our hair in wierd styles.
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Well it looks like they are one step closer to figuring out how this Corona virus got into people in the first place, it looks to have started off in Bats, but is probably too different to have made the jump to people in one go,
enter the Pangolin, the endangered little anteater with the cool looking scales which are in high demand for 'traditional' Chinese medicine
hopefully the Chinese government (and other countries) will crack down even harder on the trafficers
It's not only animal traffickers, it's ALL animal agriculture that needs to get looked at. Pangolins don't transfer viruses because they're illegally trafficked. You can get rid of illegal animal trafficking but that only means the next pandemic will come from one of our own Western mega-pens where we keep 10.000+ animals on a way too small space.
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queen_annes_revenge wrote: British police been given a mild dressing down for being overly heavy handed while enforcing the lock down. Good to see in my opinion. Some of the things they've done are ridiculous.
The dye in the water thing seemed..well.... beyond bizarre more than anything else.
This is how far back we have to put the swab to test you for #COVID19.
Spoiler:
ouch.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: British police been given a mild dressing down for being overly heavy handed while enforcing the lock down. Good to see in my opinion. Some of the things they've done are ridiculous.
The dye in the water thing seemed..well.... beyond bizarre more than anything else.
This is how far back we have to put the swab to test you for #COVID19.
Spoiler:
ouch.
I've been swabbed somewhere else that felt that deep!
But the dye thing was just beyond the pail.. Talk about a waste of resources. Same with the flying drones over people walking, just an excuse for coppers to piss about with their toys. I know because that's what I would be doing. But there was video footage this morning of cops wandering about questioning dog walkers if they'd driven to that location and such. All I could see was 'present papers vor inspection'
If people are just walking on their own minding their own business, what's the problem?
However, Lord Sumption said the efforts to dissuade people from "travelling to take exercise in the open country" were excessive.
' He argued that such behaviours "are not contrary to the regulations simply because ministers have said that they would prefer us not to".
Lord Sumption continued: "The tradition of policing in this country is that policemen are citizens in uniform, they are not members of a disciplined hierarchy operating just at the government's command."
"The police have no power to enforce ministers' preferences but only legal regulations which don't go anything like as far as the government's guidance," he said.
"I have to say that the behaviour of Derbyshire Police in trying to shame people into using their undoubted right to travel to take exercise in the country and wrecking beauty spots in the fells so people don't want to go there is frankly disgraceful.'
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Well it looks like they are one step closer to figuring out how this Corona virus got into people in the first place, it looks to have started off in Bats, but is probably too different to have made the jump to people in one go,
enter the Pangolin, the endangered little anteater with the cool looking scales which are in high demand for 'traditional' Chinese medicine
hopefully the Chinese government (and other countries) will crack down even harder on the trafficers
It's not only animal traffickers, it's ALL animal agriculture that needs to get looked at. Pangolins don't transfer viruses because they're illegally trafficked. You can get rid of illegal animal trafficking but that only means the next pandemic will come from one of our own Western mega-pens where we keep 10.000+ animals on a way too small space.
We've gotten most of our interesting diseases as a species when we domesticated animals. Now it's time for wave 2, when we encroach into territories of still wild species, and they move into ours for food or lack of space.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: British police been given a mild dressing down for being overly heavy handed while enforcing the lock down. Good to see in my opinion. Some of the things they've done are ridiculous.
The dye in the water thing seemed..well.... beyond bizarre more than anything else.
This is how far back we have to put the swab to test you for #COVID19.
[spoiler]
ouch.
I've been swabbed somewhere else that felt that deep!
But the dye thing was just beyond the pail.. Talk about a waste of resources. Same with the flying drones over people walking, just an excuse for coppers to piss about with their toys. I know because that's what I would be doing. But there was video footage this morning of cops wandering about questioning dog walkers if they'd driven to that location and such. All I could see was 'present papers vor inspection'
If people are just walking on their own minding their own business, what's the problem?
However, Lord Sumption said the efforts to dissuade people from "travelling to take exercise in the open country" were excessive.
' He argued that such behaviours "are not contrary to the regulations simply because ministers have said that they would prefer us not to".
Lord Sumption continued: "The tradition of policing in this country is that policemen are citizens in uniform, they are not members of a disciplined hierarchy operating just at the government's command."
"The police have no power to enforce ministers' preferences but only legal regulations which don't go anything like as far as the government's guidance," he said.
"I have to say that the behaviour of Derbyshire Police in trying to shame people into using their undoubted right to travel to take exercise in the country and wrecking beauty spots in the fells so people don't want to go there is frankly disgraceful.'
[/spoiler]
For a long time now I’ve seen British police as nothing but jumped up bullies looking for easy targets. But I don’t want to get into that.
Moving along, I’m hearing sources saying that the good old BCG could help in the fight against the virus because of its ability to act as a general immune system booster. I really hope that’s true. And I had no idea that it hasn’t been widely used since 2003!
queen_annes_revenge wrote: British police been given a mild dressing down for being overly heavy handed while enforcing the lock down. Good to see in my opinion. Some of the things they've done are ridiculous.
The dye in the water thing seemed..well.... beyond bizarre more than anything else.
This is how far back we have to put the swab to test you for #COVID19.
[spoiler]
ouch.
I've been swabbed somewhere else that felt that deep!
But the dye thing was just beyond the pail.. Talk about a waste of resources. Same with the flying drones over people walking, just an excuse for coppers to piss about with their toys. I know because that's what I would be doing. But there was video footage this morning of cops wandering about questioning dog walkers if they'd driven to that location and such. All I could see was 'present papers vor inspection'
If people are just walking on their own minding their own business, what's the problem?
However, Lord Sumption said the efforts to dissuade people from "travelling to take exercise in the open country" were excessive.
' He argued that such behaviours "are not contrary to the regulations simply because ministers have said that they would prefer us not to".
Lord Sumption continued: "The tradition of policing in this country is that policemen are citizens in uniform, they are not members of a disciplined hierarchy operating just at the government's command."
"The police have no power to enforce ministers' preferences but only legal regulations which don't go anything like as far as the government's guidance," he said.
"I have to say that the behaviour of Derbyshire Police in trying to shame people into using their undoubted right to travel to take exercise in the country and wrecking beauty spots in the fells so people don't want to go there is frankly disgraceful.'
[/spoiler]
For a long time now I’ve seen British police as nothing but jumped up bullies looking for easy targets. But I don’t want to get into that.
Moving along, I’m hearing sources saying that the good old BCG could help in the fight against the virus because of its ability to act as a general immune system booster. I really hope that’s true. And I had no idea that it hasn’t been widely used since 2003!
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For a long time now I’ve seen British police as nothing but jumped up bullies looking for easy targets. But I don’t want to get into that.
They've been burdened with BS paperwork for years, and lately their focus seems to have been directed at policing people's attitudes and thoughts, so I figure now that they've been given something that they can actually do outside they've just jumped on it too hard.
For a long time now I’ve seen British police as nothing but jumped up bullies looking for easy targets. But I don’t want to get into that.
They've been burdened with BS paperwork for years, and lately their focus seems to have been directed at policing people's attitudes and thoughts, so I figure now that they've been given something that they can actually do outside they've just jumped on it too hard.
Good point. Though having said that, I accept that it can be a difficult juggling act enforcing social distancing.
I think its less the UK police wanting to bully and more then having to interpret basic government legislation changes on their own. Resulting in different interpretations - some stricter than others.
There might also be a bit of an element of letting the police work harder to start with to drive home the message then "reining them in" to relax measures a bit, but having had the initial effect of warning off many people already.
There's lots of elements at play, not to mention the fact that things are changing on a daily basis and some of the changes are quite large and not something people have trained nor prepared for on this kind of scale. So there's bound to be some confusion.
In some ways its better that there's a bit of overreaction that gets pulled in, as that only makes the situation (in theory) safer and reduces potential spread.
British police are saints compared to cops in the states. But I digress.
I had to break my self-quarantine to stock up yesterday. My state is in the rural West and not hard hit yet. The county closed schools and non-essential shops. However, everyone out and about was BAU. Not really following self-distancing (or basic hygiene) protocols any different than ever.
Stores were well stocked except for paper products, cleaning supplies, poultry, and rice. Everything else was fine.
I managed to get enough stuff for 2-3 weeks and back into quarantine after my decontamination protocols were completed.
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Yes, but (at least as far as I'm aware) things like, don't take unnecessary journeys, are just 'guidelines', not laws. This is why the whole fines thing bothers me. It relies on an officers subjective opinion, not an objective piece of legislation, to charge people and take money from them. Im reading the bill currently and will make my opinions once I've finished.
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We are going out every two or three days for relatively small amounts of supplies, basically replacingwhat we've used out of a stock which could be stretched up to two weeks with rationing.
However I live five minutes walk from two supermarkets and there is another huge one on the edge of town, so it's not hard to "forage".
Maybe it’s because I’m on a phone but my posts are coming out weird. Apologies for that.
Also it’s only Tuesday and I’m physically and mentally exhausted. I was already burnt out before this lockdown started and it’s only gotten worse. I keep reminding myself that others have got it worse though.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Yes, but (at least as far as I'm aware) things like, don't take unnecessary journeys, are just 'guidelines', not laws. This is why the whole fines thing bothers me. It relies on an officers subjective opinion, not an objective piece of legislation, to charge people and take money from them. Im reading the bill currently and will make my opinions once I've finished.
But vast swathes of existing legislation that have been in place for years revolve around subjectivity.
There's no law against carrying a crowbar in the boot of your car, but if you get discovered with one you can be arrested for going equipped, if the officer is of the opinion that's what you're up to, for instance.
I've been pulled over for not wearing a seat belt. He'd got me bang to rights, a genuine error on my part, but absolutely 100% guilty. The officer in question decided to let me off with a warning because he judged that I wasn't the sort who habitually did it. Which is the truth, but he could easily have written me a ticket.
In fact, for an ordinary citizen I'd say there's little outside of speeding and drink driving where the police action isn't dictated to some degree or another by the subjective opinion of the officer in question, and I don't see how this is much different.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
The government is therefore ensuring the police and other relevant authorities have the powers to enforce them where people do not comply.
If you leave your home or gather in public for any reason other than those specified, the police may:
•instruct you to go home, leave an area or disperse
•instruct you to take steps to stop your children breaking these rules if they have already done so
•take you home – or arrest you – if you do not follow their instructions or where they deem it necessary
The police will act with discretion and common sense in applying these measures and we expect the public to act responsibly, staying at home in order to save lives.
However, if the police believe that you have broken these rules – or if you refuse to follow their instructions – a police officer may issue you with a fixed penalty notice for £60 (reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days). If you have already received a fixed penalty notice, the amount will increase to £120 and double on each further repeat offence.
So it is deliberately subjective. But these aren't guidelines - these are laws. As with any fine you can contest it, however I think we're all aware of how tedious and time consuming (not to mention money consuming!) that can be. And if you did take it to court I reckon you've got bugger all chance of getting off it.
hotsauceman1 wrote: I am SOOO tired of people buying stuff that doesnt really help or are buying it and not using it properly.
Yeah, Rubbing Alchohol kills the virus, but Cmon people you dont need it or to stock up on it, just wash your hands. I need it for airbrushing
I dont know why people are panic buying nail polish remover....but I cant find it.
And masks, particularly painting masks/respirators. Im not sure on the specifics, but im pretty sure the masks, especially particulate masks which i need for airbrushing, are not gonna help you and you will look stupid
Stop being selfish, buy what is reasonable and dont be a moron.
Eh...you might lack a certain perspective there, just a bit.
Anyway, hand sanitizer (and/or alcohol that you can use to make your own) is handy for those times when you're not able to immediately (or even 'soon') wash your hands.
And masks 'for airbrushing' are probably lower on the list then masks for...just about anything else health and safety related.
I mean, you can't possibly know what people are buying these things for - or if they're 'hoarding' them or not?
Or maybe they're all just airbrushing fans, like yourself.
I wear my filter mask whenever I go beyond my garden now. People don't laugh at it, and others comment about where they might get one. I got my mask just in time, they are very hard to get hold of now.
Feth airbrushing, get a mask to go shopping without breathing in other peoples infection. It is also a protection for others if you are infected but pre-symptomic.
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queen_annes_revenge wrote: Yes, but (at least as far as I'm aware) things like, don't take unnecessary journeys, are just 'guidelines', not laws. This is why the whole fines thing bothers me. It relies on an officers subjective opinion, not an objective piece of legislation, to charge people and take money from them. Im reading the bill currently and will make my opinions once I've finished.
But vast swathes of existing legislation that have been in place for years revolve around subjectivity.
There's no law against carrying a crowbar in the boot of your car, but if you get discovered with one you can be arrested for going equipped, if the officer is of the opinion that's what you're up to, for instance.
I've been pulled over for not wearing a seat belt. He'd got me bang to rights, a genuine error on my part, but absolutely 100% guilty. The officer in question decided to let me off with a warning because he judged that I wasn't the sort who habitually did it. Which is the truth, but he could easily have written me a ticket.
In fact, for an ordinary citizen I'd say there's little outside of speeding and drink driving where the police action isn't dictated to some degree or another by the subjective opinion of the officer in question, and I don't see how this is much different.
yes, but for a punishment to be given, proof has to be had, and/or you have to admit guilt. in your crowbar example, if they couldnt prove you were planning on something with that crowbar, they have to let you go. and as for your seatbelt story, well thats just an example of an officer with a bit of common sense. luckily some of those still exist.