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If farts can pass the virus, then I could single-handedly (single-buttedly?) doom the world.


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To the Glory of God and in proud and affectionate remembrance of the men of County Antrim who fell in the Great War. This memorial is erected by their grateful county.

Then it has a quote from a hymn that says

'Nobly you fought, your knightly virtue proved,
your memory hallowed in the land you loved'

There’s a smaller plaque below the main one which was added to include the Second World War and also our soldiers who died in Northern Ireland fighting terrorism.


Thank you for sharing. I appreciate you and your family taking care of it and allowing your land to be used for it.

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I was specifically thinking of fools who go around with their pants hanging down their and revealing the split. Plumbers were notorious for this but it's become a fashion thing among some people. It occurs to me that such a fashion could allow gas to escape without being filtered thru clothing making transmission somewhat less unlikely.

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Well to not keep getting too OT again, I think we've taken that line of conversation far enough now that everyone is aware of the possibility.

If there's no news of coronavirus to discuss we can let this thread lie for a while, I'm sure more will be forthcoming soon...


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UK is heading for a rough ride - whilst the daily stats appear to be going down for hospitals in terms of the number of new cases reported and the number of deaths (ergo still high but a gradual reduction can be seen)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

They are now going to start releasing and rolling in data from outside of hospitals including carehomes.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/28/care-home-coronavirus-deaths-included-government-daily-figures-12623472/

According to this there could easily be another 6K or more deaths to be added which is easily going to push the current figures for the uk closer to the 30K deaths value instead of the 22,370 value that we have from hospitals alone.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/live-coronavirus-pandemic-updates-latest-21931279

That's a big jump in the numbers overnight and its likely going to cause quite an uproar over conditions and treatment and just what has been happening in carehomes.



Especially when values for recovery rates in the UK are not all that high - 135 a few days ago according to this newspaper. Though I also note that oddly the statistics website noted in my first link hasn't had recovery data for a while now.

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/health/coronavirus/how-many-people-have-recovered-covid-19-uk-so-far-2482453

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Some of the states that were considering opening have pushed back the dates. For example, TN pushed their Safe-at-Home order back.....

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 Overread wrote:
UK is heading for a rough ride - whilst the daily stats appear to be going down for hospitals in terms of the number of new cases reported and the number of deaths (ergo still high but a gradual reduction can be seen)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

They are now going to start releasing and rolling in data from outside of hospitals including carehomes.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/28/care-home-coronavirus-deaths-included-government-daily-figures-12623472/

According to this there could easily be another 6K or more deaths to be added which is easily going to push the current figures for the uk closer to the 30K deaths value instead of the 22,370 value that we have from hospitals alone.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/live-coronavirus-pandemic-updates-latest-21931279

That's a big jump in the numbers overnight and its likely going to cause quite an uproar over conditions and treatment and just what has been happening in carehomes.



Especially when values for recovery rates in the UK are not all that high - 135 a few days ago according to this newspaper. Though I also note that oddly the statistics website noted in my first link hasn't had recovery data for a while now.

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/health/coronavirus/how-many-people-have-recovered-covid-19-uk-so-far-2482453


Number 2 in Europe! If we had up-to-date figures we're well ahead. The ONS figures in two weeks time will be awful.
   
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Had a sobering(COVID-19 is nearly as good as klatchian coffee) phone call from an old customer today, who a few years ago called time on the spanners and went to work for the NHS. He wanted to know if we had any disposable overalls in stock(body shops use them when they are spraying paint). Apparently the local trust was getting ready to go into care homes and they didn't have enough PPE.

Also a bit of a PSA. A good mains powered battery charger is a useful thing to have Over the last couple of weeks we have noticed a lot of people calling up to ask about new car battery's. For a lot of vehicles, especially in multi car households its been a month since they went anywhere. Being stationery for extended periods is not a good thing for cars, especially the battery.
   
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well, people could go for a drive. common sense would say that its necessary to tick their engines over.

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
well, people could go for a drive. common sense would say that its necessary to tick their engines over.


That's always a good thing to do for stuff like the fuel and exhaust systems. But the engine ignition itself is one of the biggest drains a car will put on the battery. A lot of people greatly overestimate the amount of power your alternator puts back in when the engine is running. And modern driving habits(short journeys, lots of stopping and starting) combined with the amount of electronic doohickey's on cars these days don't do the battery any favours either. So a good charger is IMO always a good thing to have anyway, but especially now.

Oh and tyre pressure, give that a regular check as well

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I just had to get a new battery today on our secondary car as all this downtime was bad on an already older battery, even when starting them and letting them run for ten minutes every few days. I'm going to take it out for a drive tonight just to "get the juices flowing", because it's been unused for about three weeks. (Didn't bother getting a battery till now as we have two cars and it's not like we are driving to work, are we?)



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GoatboyBeta wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
well, people could go for a drive. common sense would say that its necessary to tick their engines over.


That's always a good thing to do for stuff like the fuel and exhaust systems. But the engine ignition itself is one of the biggest drains a car will put on the battery. A lot of people greatly overestimate the amount of power your alternator puts back in when the engine is running. And modern driving habits(short journeys, lots of stopping and starting) combined with the amount of electronic doohickey's on cars these days don't do the battery any favours either. So a good charger is IMO always a good thing to have anyway, but especially now.

Oh and tyre pressure, give that a regular check as well


That's true, luckily I have a charger and a tyre inflator, so I'm golden. I'm doing maybe 2 or 3 journeys a week, usually at weekends, to the supermarket, and then wherever we go walking, so they're not very long journeys, but can at least get the engine upto a decent speed.

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I've also seen a fair few folk using their cars as spaces to hide away from the rest of the house while listening to their music...…… the battery won't last long under those conditions and a significant minority won't even realise they need to run the engine to keep doing it

 
   
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In a move that would surely put the mayor of Amity to shame - Florida ME's have been ordered not to release Coronavis death data. Can't have a bunch of deaths from Covid-19 if you don't report them!

Spoiler:


In other unpleasant news, a Pug has tested positive for Covid - the first dog in the US to do so.

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I reckon we don't need to respond to the blatantly partisan stuff in here.

As an alternative comment, relevant to the actual virus, some fo the studies say about 80 percent of the world's CV transmission has happened in the axis of public transportation.
Subways may be very vulnerable, but buses are a major weak point especially in places like NYC where they are astonishingly still running.

There IS a way to lower transmission in such buses without much fuss. Remove the side windows and the rear window of the bus so that physically, it is changed from an indoor space with a slow air conditioner furning the air volume over .. slowly .. .into a windy outdoor space where the virus load your passengers might shed is blown ... away ... and off in the sunny summer air.

Reducing the second spike in NYC will be just as important as reducing the first spike, and if they ever in their lives want their city to reopen they will need every trick in the book to keep from drowning in the virus a second time.

The more I think of htis idea, the fewer down sides I see to it. Won't help metros, but removing the bus windows and legislating stiff fines for any taxi, yelp, or uber to roll a window up, would easily shift the dynamics of transportation verctor spread.

I know "remove" the windows sounds harsh, but it prevents some asswipe passenger from putting them up cause they are cold or don't like the morning rush hour noise. And while I might favor the more extreme "smash them all out" .. removed windows that we replace in the spring of next year don't even really require a budget.

low to no cost and no particular developmental work to create a new product ... and a potential HUGE payoff in reduced infection rates when NYC reopens in about 14 more months.

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Had to remove a few posts - we'd love to keep this thread open to discuss the pandemic, but it will have to be closed if people cannot resist talking about politics.

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Dukeofstuff wrote:
I reckon we don't need to respond to the blatantly partisan stuff in here.

As an alternative comment, relevant to the actual virus, some fo the studies say about 80 percent of the world's CV transmission has happened in the axis of public transportation.
Subways may be very vulnerable, but buses are a major weak point especially in places like NYC where they are astonishingly still running.

There IS a way to lower transmission in such buses without much fuss. Remove the side windows and the rear window of the bus so that physically, it is changed from an indoor space with a slow air conditioner furning the air volume over .. slowly .. .into a windy outdoor space where the virus load your passengers might shed is blown ... away ... and off in the sunny summer air.

Reducing the second spike in NYC will be just as important as reducing the first spike, and if they ever in their lives want their city to reopen they will need every trick in the book to keep from drowning in the virus a second time.

The more I think of htis idea, the fewer down sides I see to it. Won't help metros, but removing the bus windows and legislating stiff fines for any taxi, yelp, or uber to roll a window up, would easily shift the dynamics of transportation verctor spread.

I know "remove" the windows sounds harsh, but it prevents some asswipe passenger from putting them up cause they are cold or don't like the morning rush hour noise. And while I might favor the more extreme "smash them all out" .. removed windows that we replace in the spring of next year don't even really require a budget.

low to no cost and no particular developmental work to create a new product ... and a potential HUGE payoff in reduced infection rates when NYC reopens in about 14 more months.


Removing the windows will last about as long as it takes someone to get injured as a result of them not being there. The liability risk is worse than the virus risk.

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Dukeofstuff wrote:
Spoiler:


As an alternative comment, relevant to the actual virus, some fo the studies say about 80 percent of the world's CV transmission has happened in the axis of public transportation.
Subways may be very vulnerable, but buses are a major weak point especially in places like NYC where they are astonishingly still running.

There IS a way to lower transmission in such buses without much fuss. Remove the side windows and the rear window of the bus so that physically, it is changed from an indoor space with a slow air conditioner furning the air volume over .. slowly .. .into a windy outdoor space where the virus load your passengers might shed is blown ... away ... and off in the sunny summer air.

Reducing the second spike in NYC will be just as important as reducing the first spike, and if they ever in their lives want their city to reopen they will need every trick in the book to keep from drowning in the virus a second time.

The more I think of htis idea, the fewer down sides I see to it. Won't help metros, but removing the bus windows and legislating stiff fines for any taxi, yelp, or uber to roll a window up, would easily shift the dynamics of transportation verctor spread.

I know "remove" the windows sounds harsh, but it prevents some asswipe passenger from putting them up cause they are cold or don't like the morning rush hour noise. And while I might favor the more extreme "smash them all out" .. removed windows that we replace in the spring of next year don't even really require a budget.

low to no cost and no particular developmental work to create a new product ... and a potential HUGE payoff in reduced infection rates when NYC reopens in about 14 more months.



Aside from sounding poorly thought out and kind of hokey, the northeast weather makes it pretty unrealistic too.

Yes, even in the summer.

Anyway, there’s some slightly positive news concerning a ‘worse case’ scenario (in the hospital, in ICU, etc) drug treatment:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/29/health/gilead-sciences-remdesivir-covid-19-treatment/index.html

It does show that anti-virals can work on this disease, and will hopefully lead to more treatments like this.

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Wait WTF, is that even allowed?
No legal reprecussions for such behaviour?


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Not Online!!! wrote:
Wait WTF, is that even allowed?
No legal reprecussions for such behaviour?


Remains to be seen. I think you can tell how stoked the MEs are about the idea by the fact they immediately leaked it to the press.

Suffice it to say that lowering your coronavirus deaths by... not reporting them is probably going to result in a lot more numbers that also won't be reported.

It also really undermines the "China is lying to us about their numbers" narrative, if we're doing it too.


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 Ouze wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Wait WTF, is that even allowed?
No legal reprecussions for such behaviour?


Remains to be seen. I think you can tell how stoked the MEs are about the idea by the fact they immediately leaked it to the press.

Suffice it to say that lowering your coronavirus deaths by... not reporting them is probably going to result in a lot more numbers that also won't be reported.

It also really undermines the "China is lying to us about their numbers" narrative, if we're doing it too.



Ladies and gents get your pressur suits, we have breached the tripple facepalm level to the ultra dense territory.

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Yeah, that sucks... I went and found the local Tampa Bay Times article which has a lot more detail. The coroner's count includes anyone who died in Florida, whereas the state count does not include non-Florida-residents, resulting in a difference of about 10%:

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/04/29/florida-medical-examiners-were-releasing-coronavirus-death-data-the-state-made-them-stop/

This was causing controversy, but rather than resolve the 10% difference, they asked the coroners to stop. Definitely not a good look and needs to be rectified ASAP.

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The UK has been playing with numbers a bit by not including out-of-hopsital deaths. However they've never tried to hide the numbers outright, just not published and combined them in official presentations. I think there's a bit of politics in it, but also I think an element of the fact that collation and verification of that data has taken longer to process because the system isn't really setup to process that data in any way near the speeds needed for an accurate daily reflection of changes.

Though they are now rolling the data in and have added the historical data to the public stats

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

Interestingly Wales, Scotland and N Ireland data already included the stats, so it was purely an England variation.

It's spiked the numbers a lot going from 22K to 26 and pushing the daily deaths well over 1K on several days



Interestingly whilst the values have shot up the overall patterns haven't totally changed. Things are still flatlining to showing some steady decline in rates.


Recovery data is still missing.

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SIGH. More bad news.

According to some studies compared death rates in various countries and states at this time of year to the death rates over the last 5 years it appears covid is killing a lot more people than we have been told up to now.

A unbiased non political group compared the average death rates over the last 5 years in some countries like italy, spain, etc and some american states to current ones, not causes of death just the actual numbers of people dying, and concluded the reported covid deaths don't account for the big rise above average this year is seeing.

Estimates show that if covid is responsible, it's death rate is at least 50% higher than we've been told.

I did try to post a link to the article but when I tried to go to the page i got hit in the face with a "sign up!" screen and after 3 time I said this. Sometimes I just don't feel like adding another account name/password to the giant invisible digital chain of them we're all wrapped in now.

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 Ouze wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Wait WTF, is that even allowed?
No legal reprecussions for such behaviour?


Remains to be seen. I think you can tell how stoked the MEs are about the idea by the fact they immediately leaked it to the press.

Suffice it to say that lowering your coronavirus deaths by... not reporting them is probably going to result in a lot more numbers that also won't be reported.

It also really undermines the "China is lying to us about their numbers" narrative, if we're doing it too.



When not testing people isn't enough to obscure the numbers, go the extra mile!

As Kanluwen referenced earlier, in my state they only test someone if these criteria are true:
1. They show symptoms
2. They become hosptialized
3. They have been known to come in contact with another COVID case

If those three are not in place, you get sent home to quarantine sans test because there are not enough tests to go around. At least that is what information on the State's Public Health website leads me to believe, along with local anecdotal evidence.

If you die without an official COVID diagnosis, you did not die from COVID. Meanwhile, I am hearing from others that numbers are being skewed the OTHER way by counting all deaths despite underlying conditions that have COVID. Which is true? Who knows, but it seems legitimate to say that the numbers we are seeing are not accurate.

Therefore, as an individual I am forced to assume the worst and act accordingly.

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 Easy E wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Wait WTF, is that even allowed?
No legal reprecussions for such behaviour?


Remains to be seen. I think you can tell how stoked the MEs are about the idea by the fact they immediately leaked it to the press.

Suffice it to say that lowering your coronavirus deaths by... not reporting them is probably going to result in a lot more numbers that also won't be reported.

It also really undermines the "China is lying to us about their numbers" narrative, if we're doing it too.



When not testing people isn't enough to obscure the numbers, go the extra mile!

As Kanluwen referenced earlier, in my state they only test someone if these criteria are true:
1. They show symptoms
2. They become hosptialized
3. They have been known to come in contact with another COVID case

If those three are not in place, you get sent home to quarantine sans test because there are not enough tests to go around. At least that is what information on the State's Public Health website leads me to believe, along with local anecdotal evidence.

If you die without an official COVID diagnosis, you did not die from COVID. Meanwhile, I am hearing from others that numbers are being skewed the OTHER way by counting all deaths despite underlying conditions that have COVID. Which is true? Who knows, but it seems legitimate to say that the numbers we are seeing are not accurate.

Therefore, as an individual I am forced to assume the worst and act accordingly.


In Illinois they will count it as a COVID death even if you had underlying conditions per the director of the health department.

https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/

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Considering people aren’t out and about as much to die in accidents or crime related deaths, the spike means it’s probably even more corona than we are lead to believe.

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I suppose suicides could be up a bit, but not enough to account for this.

In other covid news, the virus is so bad it's making me agree with the zuckdroid for once.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/us-coronavirus-update-04-29-20/h_4f87e4dbc831f81d2121ecdd1e982a31

Of course I 'd guess he wants to maintain the lockdown because people stuck at home spend more time on the net like I'm doing, and more time on fb, thereby driving up his profits.

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In Illinois they will count it as a COVID death even if you had underlying conditions per the director of the health department.


Which I think is the better method. The disease exacerbating another condition resulting in death is still a death that should be attributed to Covid-19.

Just like those who died from pneumonia which developed due to flu or HIV or whatever should count for those stats.

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