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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oh one more cynical prediction before I head out: ib4 rando gang scrap vehicles are obviously superior to imperial war machines.

Obviously, said rando gangers are already toting around equippement vastly superior to what the Imperial Army could ever get their hands on.

Dread Master wrote:So, according to our very detailed roadmap, we can expect box, book, book, book, box, box, box. Intriguing, and simultaneously irritating.

Geifer wrote:After that wonderfully informative roadmap I now know exactly what to look forward to. Thanks, GW!

Don’t you guys get it? This is how maps work in the Wastes; you’re being given a fully immersive experience!

Second book to the left, and straight on till morning!

I love how we're supposed to expect 100% knowledge from day one...coolcoolcool.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Dread Master wrote:So, according to our very detailed roadmap, we can expect box, book, book, book, box, box, box. Intriguing, and simultaneously irritating.

Geifer wrote:After that wonderfully informative roadmap I now know exactly what to look forward to. Thanks, GW!

Don’t you guys get it? This is how maps work in the Wastes; you’re being given a fully immersive experience!

No! A map has an X so you know where to go. Without an X it's not a map. And that map has no X.

I know that because the one-armed, one-eyed, one-legged bloke who sold me a real map to the Wastes told me so. And he should know. He had a map, and the map had an X.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I love how we're supposed to expect 100% knowledge from day one...coolcoolcool.

Well roadmaps are generally supposed to provide information, you know? GW could've just not put out one, you know?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I love how we're supposed to expect 100% knowledge from day one...coolcoolcool.

Well roadmaps are generally supposed to provide information, you know? GW could've just not put out one, you know?

You got information. You know you'll need to buy a 260€ box and three 40€ books that invalidate the book in the box to be able to play Ash Wastes.

Just fyi the US games workshop store finally has zone mortalis tiles back in stock after almost like 2 years of waiting.

I only need 1 tile (I want a 3x3 board aka 9 tiles) and if anyone has an extra tile they are willing to sell.. send me a PM.

More books?

Bookmunda.

WILL YOU PEOPLE STOP POSTING ABOUT THE ZONE MORTALIS TILES?! Jeez! I need to wait until tomorrow to order a set!

I think something interesting to look out for is the ratio of resin to plastic Ash Wastes gets?

Eh. Necromunda has been pretty good for plastic.

Pretty much anything truly “core” is plastic, and a decent smattering of gubbins such as Ambots. Plus loads of terrain.

Resin tends to be for hired guns (now excluding Scum) and Named Characters, all of which can be converted up if someone wants to stick to plastic.

 Graphite wrote:
There seem to be a fair few airports, too - which would make sense as Primus is the only spaceport on planet. I wonder if they double as satellite spaceports since they're in the Paletine cluster? I would assume so, since landing the shear number of grain barges a day Necromunda will need on Hive Primus itself would be an air traffic control nightmare.

I wouldn't be surprised if only Helmawr's personal supplies are delivered to the spaceport, and the imports for the plebs are just dumped into the wastes from orbit and trucked back by freelancers.

Maybe more than that - the "On hive" spaceport might be for passengers (it's close to the Strangers Tower so they can get the filthy Xenos out of sight quickly) while the outlying fields are for cargo.

 NAVARRO wrote:
More books?

Bookmunda.

For the sake of HBMC's blood pressure I just hope that each one has a new set of rules for the Escher and Goliaths.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
More books?

Bookmunda.

For the sake of HBMC's blood pressure I just hope that each one has a new set of rules for the Escher and Goliaths.

Oh and can't forget Baxx, every weapon will be either 1 or 2 credits under/over other listed costs...in the same book!

The fact that we're getting 3 books this year doesn't surprise me, it's Necromunda after all. 3 boxes does surprise me though. I'm not even sure why they would release 3 boxed sets, assuming a box isn't just a vehicle. The first one would be the starter box I guess. The follow ups could be a set of generic vehicles and a set of terrain perhaps?

Whatever we get I just hope that we know what is coming in boxes 2 and 3 before box 1 goes up for preorder. Too much to hope for maybe.

El Torro wrote:
Whatever we get I just hope that we know what is coming in boxes 2 and 3 before box 1 goes up for preorder. Too much to hope for maybe.

Er, the gangs from box 1.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
More books?

Bookmunda.

For the sake of HBMC's blood pressure I just hope that each one has a new set of rules for the Escher and Goliaths.

I feel like you're assuming the first six books won't be Book of Chain Truck, Book of Blade Buggy, Book of Iron Jeep...

El Torro wrote:
The fact that we're getting 3 books this year doesn't surprise me, it's Necromunda after all. 3 boxes does surprise me though. I'm not even sure why they would release 3 boxed sets, assuming a box isn't just a vehicle. The first one would be the starter box I guess. The follow ups could be a set of generic vehicles and a set of terrain perhaps?

Whatever we get I just hope that we know what is coming in boxes 2 and 3 before box 1 goes up for preorder. Too much to hope for maybe.

That's 3 books and the boxed set in one quarter, for the likely context.

I don't know what to make of 3 books, to be honest. I'm guessing one book might be the Ash Waste Nomads in their own form of a "House Of..." book and the other is a pseudo-"Fighting in the Ash Wastes" rulebook with a new unit for each of the "House of..." factions. Maybe the 3rd is an updated core rulebook or something? Maybe Enforcers will get an "Imperial House" book?


Personal take:
The boxed sets are going to be adding some stuff to the "base" gangs. Not just vehicles. Some kind of new ganger type or the like. It is worth mentioning that Orlock could easily be getting Drudges added to them...which would also be good to double up for GSC, and be an opportunity to add in the missing Seismic Cannon and Mining Laser options for the Orlock Road Captain and Road Sergeants.

Might also be an excuse to repack/expand the basic gang boxes with their expansion sprues?

I'd be down for Ash waste upgrade sprues

 Kanluwen wrote:


I don't know what to make of 3 books, to be honest. I'm guessing one book might be the Ash Waste Nomads in their own form of a "House Of..." book and the other is a pseudo-"Fighting in the Ash Wastes" rulebook with a new unit for each of the "House of..." factions. Maybe the 3rd is an updated core rulebook or something? Maybe Enforcers will get an "Imperial House" book?

I wouldn't be surprised if there is one gang per book. I don't think the book would cover just the gang, but other facets of the game too. We don't know how many completely new gangs are coming out with Ash Wastes, but we know it's more than just Ash Waste Nomads. Having one book to cover all the new gangs would just be too convenient.

Racerguy180 wrote:
I'd be down for Ash waste upgrade sprues

I mean the ones that they're currently selling separately, not a hypothetical Ash Waste upgrade sprue.

I'm almost positive that there will be something new for each Gang.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
I'd be down for Ash waste upgrade sprues

I mean the ones that they're currently selling separately, not a hypothetical Ash Waste upgrade sprue.

I'm almost positive that there will be something new for each Gang.

Gang specific emblems, plating and vehicle weapons are my bet.

Kinda makes me want to go Escher so I can pump some idiots cab full of gaseous toxins.

El Torro wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if there is one gang per book. I don't think the book would cover just the gang, but other facets of the game too. We don't know how many completely new gangs are coming out with Ash Wastes, but we know it's more than just Ash Waste Nomads. Having one book to cover all the new gangs would just be too convenient.

Here's the exact quote:

This toxic, rad-scoured landscape is too expansive to fit into a single book. In fact, the wastes are so vast we’re introducing them with a massive new boxed set, which will be followed soon after by a whole series of books exploring the factions that battle across the wastes.

And then there are the gangs. The Ash Wastes are full of interesting (and murderous) denizens, only some of whom will be familiar to longtime inhabitants of the underhive. That means new factions to play.

Key to the setting is the terrain – games take place not in the twisted, cramped environs we’re used to, but in the vast openness of Necromunda’s irradiated surface, making them a unique new challenge. As such, you can expect new terrain and new vehicles, including the ones hinted at in the reveal trailer. Gangs aren’t just scuffling in the Ash Wastes for no reason – they’re protecting (or attacking) valuable convoys as they roll across the dunes. Rest assured, you’ll be able to represent these situations faithfully in your games…

This is why I'm speculating the way I am for this. It might very well be that there's a new "House of Iron" book coming already, introducing the Drudges...or that there is a book that will look at the factions that are involved with transporting stuff across the wastes by land or by air or whatever.

If I was a betting man I would guess:

Boxed Set - Orlocks and Ash Wastes Nomads, land train and bikes and terrain. Rules for the ash wastes.

Release 1 - Land train on its own, rules for the major gangs.

Release 2 - Ash Wastes Nomads on their own, expanded book for them.

Release 3 - New vehicle for everyone.

I think the nightmare would be if they did Ash Waste Nomads+6-10 vehicles and upgrade sprues. We'd literally be here for the next few years and, as we saw with the elite boxes, some ideas just aren't all that good. For every cyber brain squid thing, we get sky surfers (Chopper for Oz!) or zombie archers or slightly shorter and slightly taller Goliaths.

So if they do a vehicle/unit per gang it would be Goliath choppers, Esher dune buggy, Orlock truck and... Delaque cyber truck? Cawdor garbage hauler? Van Saar hovercraft? At some point it would be like the wacky races.

Ohhh maybe some of the merchant guild stuff, we have the market already....

An armoured truck for credit transport...ripe for some Heat action.

Random thought...

They don't say that it all has to be vehicular combat, right? Maybe some factions can't do certain missions where they would have to defend, but instead get missions where they have to raid settlements or ruins or the like?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Random thought...

They don't say that it all has to be vehicular combat, right? Maybe some factions can't do certain missions where they would have to defend, but instead get missions where they have to raid settlements or ruins or the like?

I’m kind of hoping we can nick vehicles off each other.

I of course mean in game. You try to nick my actual models? Madame Hammer and Mr Knees are going to have a falling out!

Would be ace if they also included PDF, which yes, would be a cheap cop-out model wise, but would love to convert up an ash waste Chimera and gasmask guard.