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On cost and value... our family of 4 went to see a play on Broadway and it was $500 even before food, transport and souvenirs. 2 hours but totally worth it.

Now obviously $500 for Broadway or GW terrain or a day of golf or 30 minutes of driving race cars on a track, or skydiving is too much if you don't have $500 to spare.

But once you do, who's to judge?

Which isn't to say people can't complain about prices, or suggest alternatives. I've had as much fun with plastic card, toys and food containers as I've had with expensive GW sets.

Just be aware we're all in different economic circumstances and at different places in our lives.

 zedmeister wrote:

Vorian wrote:
You would not be better off getting them separately though, would you?

Depends on so many things. What's a persons budget? Can they afford to splurge £170 on this considering that there's a load of more GW bundle boxes coming that they could end up wanting (Ash Wastes, the next 40k or the next AoS box)? When are they likely to paint said terrain? Will it just get stuck in storage for 3-5 years? Longer? Would a £30 box be a better investment as their hobby priorities could change or they may hate the experience of painting and they end up with regreting their £170 purchase. I'd say that if you can afford it and are currently building up a Necromunda or 40k board using this terrain and then it'll probably be worth it as you're planning on buying the parts anyway and the box will save you a bit. if you're just going to dump it into storage, then I'd say don't bother as your paying to GW to store the terrain and there's a chance it'll just end up getting sold off for a loss.

Come on now. They've just offered a bundle at a discount. Let's not get into the realms of the ridiculous.

Some people may prefer cheaper options, some may prefer printing stuff - but if people want GWs stuff and feel the price is what they are willing to pay, that's up to them.

 Overread wrote:
Heck if you want to talk about FOMO, MTG is far worse than GW. Sure the price per unit is cheaper, but at the same time top decks for their standard format cycle every few month and the "top cards" can sell for way more than some GW kits all for a single sheet of card with some ink on it. At least with a GW kit a higher price normally means a larger model, with card games a higher value on a card typically just means they randomly printed less of them than other cards (eg the rare cards instead of commons).

Magic cards have intrinsic value as playing pieces, making them a more legitimate currency than $ or €, fight me

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And I hate to sound callous, because I’m normally a dirty lefty, but if a given customer has poor impulse control, I’m not really sure what GW can be expected to do about that?

Nothing. GW is probably exploiting various mental holes and vulnerabilities in us all (as is MTG, Computer Gaming, etc). I'm just saying, we should be pointing out that these boxes are expensive and we shouldn't shy away from mentioning that if someone seems a bit too enthusiastic at buying it.

Value is relative…
Some people budget themselves a hobby budget every month. This doesn’t make them bad with money…
Some people find value in spending hundreds or even thousands of dollars on painting services… (I rather do it myself)
Some people find value in buying expensive but discounted bundles.
I tend to mostly buy discounted bundles or from 3rd party online retailers instead of individual splash releases which are way more expensive seperately.
I build everything quickly but I tend to magnetize like crazy and paint slowly. So I have a ton of Gw terrain on specific themed boards I like to create.
I have friends who enjoy painting w me and helps paint stuff. Although they can get annoyed on certain models that aren’t easy to paint even with all the magnetizing.
It’s possible to be responsible with your money and able to buy these big expensive sets, build them quickly without having boxes laying around and paint stuff at a reasonable pace and not be an autistic person who suffers from FOMO…which is frankly a childish irresponsible and unintelligent response that reaks of sour grapes.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Magic cards have intrinsic value as playing pieces, making them a more legitimate currency than $ or €, fight me

Rudy's garbage fire investments would probably agree with you

Anyone see the new rumor engine? Think it's another vehicle for necromunda or a cargo crate for the orlock truck/train thing?

Guessing either stowage for one of the vehicles or terrain/objective marker.

Steve

170GBP? Sorry GW, I'll have to pass on this one. Come back when you can offer a significant discount

Rumor engine link and photo.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/08/the-rumour-engine-8th-february-2022/

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Well you can see plenty of plastic Zone Mortalis builds on the interwebs that cost mre than a car

I always want to know when I see those online whether the person who owns them is incredibly wealthy or just terrible with their money.

Both. My friend and his wife have a combined income of $400k and just filed bankruptcy because they couldn't pay their credit card bills.

Toofast wrote:
Both. My friend and his wife have a combined income of $400k and just filed bankruptcy because they couldn't pay their credit card bills.

Probably did a 3 storied 6x4 Zone Mortalis board huh

Consoomers.

 tauist wrote:
170GBP? Sorry GW, I'll have to pass on this one. Come back when you can offer a significant discount

Going to have to agree. I waited years after Dark Uprising to purchase that. This is a nice set and if I was starting out it would be good. If it was under $200 it would be good but it is only terrain. Atleast with Dark Uprising you got two gangs, and everything to play with a book, dice, counters, cards, like everything. And that was a bit rediculously priced for the time of release. This will have to be a pass for me as well.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
On cost and value... our family of 4 went to see a play on Broadway and it was $500 even before food, transport and souvenirs. 2 hours but totally worth it.

Now obviously $500 for Broadway or GW terrain or a day of golf or 30 minutes of driving race cars on a track, or skydiving is too much if you don't have $500 to spare.

But once you do, who's to judge?

Which isn't to say people can't complain about prices, or suggest alternatives. I've had as much fun with plastic card, toys and food containers as I've had with expensive GW sets.

Just be aware we're all in different economic circumstances and at different places in our lives.

Yeah the price doesn't bother me the slightest. But the value? The terrain is nice and all, but I would expect a premium game to go with such quality terrain. The rules for the stronghold alone is lackluster. Watchtower counts as rolling 12 for spotting attackers in sentry missions. But how tall is it? And how far can a mini be without being spotted? But then someone will certainly say that's easily fixed. Yes, it sure is. Measure 12" from the base of the tower instead (not sure how that would affect 'balance' of sentry missions, they're already deemed unplayable by some).

The thing is, I don't pay premium price for a game where every other piece on the table needs simple fixes.

So, can we bet by how much are the gang boxes gonna increase? BB teams are going up by 20%

 Albertorius wrote:
So, can we bet by how much are the gang boxes gonna increase? BB teams are going up by 20%

Probably a good bet. Going from £26 to £32 because why not.

 zedmeister wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So, can we bet by how much are the gang boxes gonna increase? BB teams are going up by 20%

Probably a good bet. Going from £26 to £32 because why not.

Works in my favour because of instead of buying a couple box per month I will buy only one so more money in my pocket

 NAVARRO wrote:
Works in my favour because of instead of buying a couple box per month I will buy only one so more money in my pocket

Same. I'm already cutting back and this helps reinforce further.

Oh, and it looks like the terrain box will be going from an already eye watering £170 to a wallet melting £190

£170 will certainly be the price going forward, the 10% increase is already accounted for.

JWBS wrote:
£170 will certainly be the price going forward, the 10% increase is already accounted for.

Until the next year's price hike, that is

Edit: Nevermind lmao it's still going up

JWBS wrote:
£170 will certainly be the price going forward, the 10% increase is already accounted for.

You’d think but it’s on updated price list at £190! all individual Zone Mortalis kits are going up £5 from what I can see.

 DaveC wrote:

JWBS wrote:
£170 will certainly be the price going forward, the 10% increase is already accounted for.

You’d think but it’s on updated price list at £190! all individual Zone Mortalis kits are going up £5 from what I can see.

Yes I just saw. That's truly bizarre.

 DaveC wrote:

JWBS wrote:
£170 will certainly be the price going forward, the 10% increase is already accounted for.

You’d think but it’s on updated price list at £190! all individual Zone Mortalis kits are going up £5 from what I can see.

Truth be told I didn't even think that the new bundle box would be around long enough to be affected by the price hike. The less than stellar discount on it makes more sense if it's a regular item that's stocked for a longer period of time.

I have no words, the Sector barely has 4 kits worth of stuff in it, so content goes up by 20, price goes up by 20, relative savings go down from an already modest 15ish %

(sorry for saying it in 2 places at once)

Price of that plastic bundle is around the price of you getting around 7 or 8 gang boxes

Speaking of which

Necromunda gang £26 -> £28

Not that bad. Bloodbowl got it worse.

Although the truly bizarre part I guess is that GW intends to still have Sectors in stock 1 month from now.

Yeah, BB got it in the neck. But then they’ve consistently been among the best value items in the range so I guess they figured that it balanced out in some sort of meta-contextual way…

So what’s the underhive sector price in Dollars?

I might as well buy it now since all the individual kits are going up. Hope I can find a third party retailer selling it for 15% off.

Didn't they say terrain is going up by 20% versus 10% for miniatures?