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It's been oop for ages. Here's a post saying so, which itself notes that it had been oop for some time even when the post was made https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/420/801011.page#11284509

 Overread wrote:



It's honestly baffling considering how much of the product production that GW controls in-house; that they cannot be more transparent and up-front about what is staying; what is going; what is going on a short holiday ;what is vanishing now and might return in the future etc....

I agree, the current state of things makes it impossible for us as clients to know when a kit will disappear from the store with no warning.
Some people may say its Fomo others its incompetence I personally believe is lack of communication between GW departments...who makes the call to discontinue and marketing.
This communication is not cascaded to anyone and decisions are simply made and kits vanish.

Does a company owe their clients schedule of product lifetime? I dont think so but a warning would be in everyone best interest.

As it stands the occasional clients will miss the vast majority of these short lived products.

 Flinty wrote:
Element Games has it marked as due for restock on the 23rd March. This may be reason for hope. Or it might just be setting up for more disappointment

Hope is, after all, the beginning of unhappiness.

 Flinty wrote:
Element Games has it marked as due for restock on the 23rd March. This may be reason for hope. Or it might just be setting up for more disappointment

https://elementgames.co.uk/games-workshop/warhammer-40k/warhammer-40k-scenery/large-scenery/sector-mechanicus-tectonic-fragdrill?d=22&gclid=CjwKCAiA4KaRBhBdEiwAZi1zzh6__FaY9YcX_42YU1jvpTzeY_ZcTDW1dary6EoBJbCUBAUl4tr7qhoCC7AQAvD_BwE

Element Games are just always full of gak on restocks. Watch that date be pushed forward a week every week until 2026

Some of you mad about not seing new stuff every week. Some of you mad you can't buy old stuff anymore. You can't have both! So which one is it? New-new-new or old stuff available?

Baxx wrote:
Some of you mad about not seing new stuff every week. Some of you mad you can't buy old stuff anymore. You can't have both! So which one is it? New-new-new or old stuff available?

You can't satisfy everyone, y'know? And trying to will just satisfy nobody.

Baxx wrote:
Some of you mad about not seing new stuff every week. Some of you mad you can't buy old stuff anymore. You can't have both! So which one is it? New-new-new or old stuff available?

You can have both.

 NAVARRO wrote:

Baxx wrote:
Some of you mad about not seing new stuff every week. Some of you mad you can't buy old stuff anymore. You can't have both! So which one is it? New-new-new or old stuff available?

You can have both.

To a degree. I wish I could still buy a bunch of older Lego sets, but they are out of production.

Baxx wrote:
Some of you mad about not seing new stuff every week. Some of you mad you can't buy old stuff anymore. You can't have both! So which one is it? New-new-new or old stuff available?

I only get mad when they don’t restock new stuff within its first year of release. The market is literally new.. the fragdrill has been out for several years. Heck the zone mortalis tiles were instantly out of restock for so long. I thought I was going to miss out.

The Zone Mortalis tiles are such a sought after item that the big Necro group on FB gets regular updates on when GW gets them back in stock.

Hell, people putting up brag posts showing off their new tiles was banned as a topic!

Baxx wrote:
Some of you mad about not seing new stuff every week. Some of you mad you can't buy old stuff anymore. You can't have both! So which one is it? New-new-new or old stuff available?

There's no reason that both can't be an option, and there's certainly no reason that better communication regarding what will and won't come back in stock can't be an option.

Any chance you can try posting in a manner that comes across as slightly less abrasive than an 80 grit belt sander, btw?

Baxx wrote:
Some of you mad about not seing new stuff every week. Some of you mad you can't buy old stuff anymore. You can't have both! So which one is it? New-new-new or old stuff available?

Given that many projects require multiple boxes, and that it takes time to build and paint stuff asking for fair warning when a box is going OOP seems like a reasonable request.

Same can be said of a million different products though, is it routinely demanded of other companies like it is here every time it happens?

/Edit - little illustration, I want a new lamp that matches the two I already have, but the manufacturer no longer makes this lamp. I can only imagine that I'd get precisely zero sympathy (and personally I'd expect none) if I went complaining on the manufacturer forums. Am I incorrect to think this?

You are. I point you to the history of the McRib.

JWBS wrote:
Same can be said of a million different products though, is it routinely demanded of other companies like it is here every time it happens?

/Edit - little illustration, I want a new lamp that matches the two I already have, but the manufacturer no longer makes this lamp. I can only imagine that I'd get precisely zero sympathy (and personally I'd expect none) if I went complaining on the manufacturer forums. Am I incorrect to think this?

The difference is that a lot of modern products have very short shelf lives by design. Meanwhile Warhammer has products which can sometimes measure their shelf life in decades. Furthermore many (some) are never retired fully but replaced with an upgraded sculpt.

This is also mirrored across the wargaming market. In general most wargame models remain on sale until either they are upgraded or the game/company outright folds and is removed. As a market its generally very long standing. It's not a market where models appear and vanish outside of the fully boutique end. Heck when GW tried to emulate that model with the launch of AoS it got such a resounding amount of hate it triggered some massive company changes.

And firms like Infinity are generally up front when a model is being withdrawn from sale, for whatever reason. X is going on Y date get it now before its gone.

GW are abnormal in the market because their stuff does vanish and yet they retain almost entire control over their production system. They should know when things are going to vanish well in advance outside of a mould breaking early on something that was set to be removed but had an estimated decent amount of lifespan before the mould was expected to break/wear down.



Wargaming is a "slow" market. Heck I'd argue the only fast end is 3D printing and that's so new its really untried and untested as to how viable the Patreon fast-release scheme will pan out for games in the fullness of time. And even there, by and large, once its released it just stays on the market.

zamerion wrote:

Spoiler:

 Geifer wrote:

zamerion wrote:
Next week is Gama expo..looking forward to seeing news!!!

Has GW announced any planned reveals for Gama on social media? Considering the expo starts three days from now and GW is usually not shy about telling us if we have reveals to look forward to, with the silence so far I'm not sure we can be hopeful of any Necromunda news.

Would be cool if we got something, though.

maybe they'll said somthing on sunday.

If I'm not mistaken, GW has two seminars scheduled for Thursday the 17th.

This was what the last GAMA showed:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/10/revealed-at-gamagw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-4/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/11/breaking-news-from-gama/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/14/kill-team-doom-lords-van-saar-and-moregw-homepage-post-1/

Allways necromunda

That's good to know. In that case I vote in favor of GW keeping up the tradition and showing us something shiny and new for Necromunda next week.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Baxx wrote:
Some of you mad about not seing new stuff every week. Some of you mad you can't buy old stuff anymore. You can't have both! So which one is it? New-new-new or old stuff available?

Given that many projects require multiple boxes, and that it takes time to build and paint stuff asking for fair warning when a box is going OOP seems like a reasonable request.

This is the only correct answer. It's not uncommon for projects to take months or even years to complete. If GW really considers the cost of keeping a terrain kit around too much, they should at least give people enough advance warning to buy what they think they need.

Ideally they'd keep the kits around for longer, though. GW knows just fine how it works with models for armies. They're just being funny with their terrain kits. Probably a side effect of those generally outsourced to China instead of keeping it in house like the majority of their plastic production.

The market is already sold out? I only just got mine two weeks ago because I was afraid of these kinds of shenanigans.

Good thing my Cthulhu senses were tingling!

Baxx wrote:
Some of you mad about not seing new stuff every week. Some of you mad you can't buy old stuff anymore. You can't have both! So which one is it? New-new-new or old stuff available?

That's not even a point of discussion. It's not a point of "Either/ Or", it's a matter of intentional cultivation of FOMO.

Necromunda is supposedly a game...

It's hard to call it a game when the material is not available for less then 2 weeks, then the company in question turns their back on the release, then talks smack about it and looks down their nose at the "Plebes".

Yeah, they dont exactly make it easy to plan a project. Not everyone can afford to drop $6-700 on terrain kits at once and when you do it's OUT OF STOCK...

Miniaturemarket.com got a restock of floor tiles and market stalls.......go....buy....horde

Necromunda's getting a preview

It's about time House Goliath got a Primaris Lieutenant!

Ash Waste Nomad preview!

Loving these Nomads.

Rising From the Dunes, It’s the First Sighting of an Ash Waste Nomad - WarCom



EDIT: Multi-Ninja'd!

Does this more or less confirm that New Years teaser image from the video was for the Ash Wastes? The colors match this nomad.

Also, they look really cool. The model seems a bit cluttered (Not a huge fan of the fur/sand camo thing on the shoulder but eh). Can't wait to see what else is revealed.

Also also, this is the first time we've seen a different base shown off for a necromunda model. Obviously no metal plating out in the desert, but I wonder if other models going forward won't have the sculpted bases

I'm in love

Given that vehicles are coming, I hope the nomads get mounts relatively quick. Love the weird water buffalo in the top right, but I'm guessing they'll probably be more bug thing (since the ash waste teaser had a bug similar to the one the guy on the bottom is riding)

Neat.

beast_gts wrote:
Rising From the Dunes, It’s the First Sighting of an Ash Waste Nomad - WarCom

Spoiler:

Wow, that's a cool genestealer cultist... I mean, erm, ash waste nomad...

I hadn't seen the beast sketches before, that's really nice. Hopefully we do get some more info at adepticon