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The_Real_Chris wrote:
I wondr if the Archo rig can run fast enough to keep up with the trikes?

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/necromunda-van-saar-arachni-rig-2021

That brings up some things.

Can the Orlock Jetpacks, Cephalopod Spectre, etc move fast enuff to keep up?

I'm glad that I'd already started on Jackals for my Orlocks.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Squats.

Real.

Actual.

Genuine.

Squats.

Absolutely amazing. I love the models.

In good spirit I shall now print out this reply and frame it. I shall then hang it so that it's the first thing everyone sees when they walk through the front door...

3 factions and generic vehicles for everybody in the next book is significantly less bad than what I expected.

beast_gts wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So... 8 to a box? Are they somehow bigger than Goliaths? Or is it just plain old "give less for more" once again?

Remember the revamped plague marines? Only seven in a box. Later Gee-Dubs released a box of three marines to complete the 10 man squad.

Seven is Nurgle's sacred number.

For the price of more than ten. Corrected that for you.

 Strg Alt wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So... 8 to a box? Are they somehow bigger than Goliaths? Or is it just plain old "give less for more" once again?

Remember the revamped plague marines? Only seven in a box. Later Gee-Dubs released a box of three marines to complete the 10 man squad.

Seven is Nurgle's sacred number.

For the price of more than ten. Corrected that for you.

I knew I kept that bag of rogue trader metals and plastics around for a reason...


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 Kanluwen wrote:
Why should it run, when it can just grab onto a handlebar and deploy skis.

That's right. Trike-Skiing.

That is proper wasteland warrior thinking right there...

lord_blackfang wrote:3 factions and generic vehicles for everybody in the next book is significantly less bad than what I expected.

You know expectations are low when you need multiple qualifiers before the word BAD.

But I'm actually surprised. I was actually thinking they'd drag generic vehicle rules out to 6 or 7 books.

They'll probably still drag it out but basically if you're no Nomads or Orlocks, hurry up and wait.

Racerguy180 wrote:

The_Real_Chris wrote:
I wondr if the Archo rig can run fast enough to keep up with the trikes?

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/necromunda-van-saar-arachni-rig-2021

That brings up some things.

Can the Orlock Jetpacks, Cephalopod Spectre, etc move fast enuff to keep up?

I'm glad that I'd already started on Jackals for my Orlocks.

Well, bigger jetpacks for the Orlocks?

Windshields for grav cutters.

Racerguy180 wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:3 factions and generic vehicles for everybody in the next book is significantly less bad than what I expected.

You know expectations are low when you need multiple qualifiers before the word BAD.

But I'm actually surprised. I was actually thinking they'd drag generic vehicle rules out to 6 or 7 books.

They'll probably still drag it out but basically if you're no Nomads or Orlocks, hurry up and wait.

The bully who usually takes all my money left me a penny! Bless him!

I have a side bet that they will do the gang wars 17/18 schtick. Put out multiple books and then start over replacing them in a short period. Of course, I lost my main bet that we would have been introduced to a new edition already. Could be they’ll churn out the vehicle supplements and then drop the new edition like they did with blood bowl.

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So... 8 to a box? Are they somehow bigger than Goliaths? Or is it just plain old "give less for more" once again?

Remember the revamped plague marines? Only seven in a box. Later Gee-Dubs released a box of three marines to complete the 10 man squad.

The weapon options for that squad are the dumbest thing I've ever seen in a wargame

 Albertorius wrote:
So... 8 to a box? Are they somehow bigger than Goliaths? Or is it just plain old "give less for more" once again?

Or 4 to a box like scummers...

If anyone wants to play some of the GSC bikes or other vehicles, it doesn't take a lot of effort to make rules on the same level as the official ones in the new box. Bikes would be mounts. And we already have rules for tracked and wheeled vehicles. All you need is to assign a cost and some stats, preferably relative to the 2 we got already. Not exactly rocket science, and balance hardly exists anyway, so no need to worry too much about that.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Man I wish they all had those ribbed Robbie the Robot sleeves

LOL! Was just thinking the exact opposite: "Sure wish none of them had those Robbie the Robot sleeves."

Maybe we can work out a trade...

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So... 8 to a box? Are they somehow bigger than Goliaths? Or is it just plain old "give less for more" once again?

Or 4 to a box like scummers...

That started as 12/box and dropped to 4/box after the first release

The_Real_Chris wrote:




Windshields for grav cutters.

Chopper made it all the way to Oz and he didn't need no windshield.

I quite like the overall aesthetic of them, but the guns make me cringe. At least they could look like they make mechanical sense… I mean they all have barrels in the mid-line of the drum mags, and the iron sights are fundamentally unusable, so why bother with them.

Between all the new Chaos helots, now more listed under Killteam for some reason, we get Squats. What a time to be alive.

What's next? A Primaris with shuriken cannon is now a non-zero possibility for the first Restartes necromunda fig!

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

The_Real_Chris wrote:




Windshields for grav cutters.

Chopper made it all the way to Oz and he didn't need no windshield.

Deep cut there Kid, but I don't recall Chopper being in too good shape when he got here.
Though there is the whole lack of food and water to consider there too.

 Vain wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

The_Real_Chris wrote:




Windshields for grav cutters.

Chopper made it all the way to Oz and he didn't need no windshield.

Deep cut there Kid, but I don't recall Chopper being in too good shape when he got here.
Though there is the whole lack of food and water to consider there too.

Marlon will always be a big city boy.

On an unrelated note, Marlons always have to mind the oranges.

The_Real_Chris wrote:

 Vain wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

The_Real_Chris wrote:




Windshields for grav cutters.

Chopper made it all the way to Oz and he didn't need no windshield.

Deep cut there Kid, but I don't recall Chopper being in too good shape when he got here.
Though there is the whole lack of food and water to consider there too.

Marlon will always be a big city boy.

On an unrelated note, Marlons always have to mind the oranges.

Yeah! You never serve any food wearing Prussian blue accessories without a side order of chocolate-coated ant brains! That simple etiquette man!

Valete,

JohnS

I still don't see why they'd separate the generic vehicle rules from the core vehicle rules. Then again, GW isn't the best at organizing their rules, eh? Either way I can't wait to see the new rules and kits that they have lined up.

I thought the Squats looked familiar

I'm ready to play MadMax Necromunda version. For once my minis are already painted.

M.

Tactics cards now up for pre order on uk store

TGG wrote:
I still don't see why they'd separate the generic vehicle rules from the core vehicle rules. Then again, GW isn't the best at organizing their rules, eh? Either way I can't wait to see the new rules and kits that they have lined up.

I guess it really depends on what you mean by "best". I'm sure that, for GW, "best" is "whatever makes people buy the most".

 Albertorius wrote:

TGG wrote:
I still don't see why they'd separate the generic vehicle rules from the core vehicle rules. Then again, GW isn't the best at organizing their rules, eh? Either way I can't wait to see the new rules and kits that they have lined up.

I guess it really depends on what you mean by "best". I'm sure that, for GW, "best" is "whatever makes people buy the most".

To crush your hobby budget. See their pile of shame grow before you. And to hear the lamentations of their spouses.

 warboss wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

TGG wrote:
I still don't see why they'd separate the generic vehicle rules from the core vehicle rules. Then again, GW isn't the best at organizing their rules, eh? Either way I can't wait to see the new rules and kits that they have lined up.

I guess it really depends on what you mean by "best". I'm sure that, for GW, "best" is "whatever makes people buy the most".

To crush your hobby budget. See their pile of shame grow before you. And to hear the lamentations of their spouses.

Conan the Accountarian.

As per tradition, designer Owen Patten has started to share some scenery tips on Twitter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Owen_Patten

(sorry, my Twitter-fu is not sufficient to post pics)

Anyone noticed how GW described Ash Wastes as a "new edition"? I wouldn't necessarily say it's that much more of a new edition than any of the other books, but it's certainly a new version (but so is any book strictly speaking). The most significant changes are obviously for the vehicles, separating "models" into "fighters" and "vehicles" (previously rules only mentioned fighters). Making changes to a whole range of core rules like rally, nerve tests, crew selection, actions, shooting, close combat, movement ++. Also an excuse for another "Driver" skill set (for vehicle crew).

The Ash Wastes rulebook (N22) is another botched release... not having a full read-through yet, still people have started reporting several mistakes and inconsistencies. Stuff like Pitch Black and Sneak Attack (Sentries). These kind of rules fluctuate from rulebook to rulebook. Seems like N22 is mostly copied from N19, completely ignoring any changes introduced by N21.

Also curious about Handling stat for vehicles. Running Repairs (skill) mentions a Handling check roll of a natural 6 to Restart the vehicle. This should be a 2D6 roll because the minimum stat for Hnd is 10+. Not a problem in itself, but the rules say "this driver has not only Restarted the vehicle but repaired some minor damage. The vehicle regains one lost Hull Point". A roll of 6 is not necessarily a success if Hnd is 10+!

TL;DR: Not recommend.

I'm waiting for the book they recently announced before I truly get started with the game; I did already pick up a pretty good Orlock model collection from a friend. I just don't want to get their gang sourcebook (House of Iron?) only to have it invalidated within a couple of months.