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2020/03/15 15:30:34
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Sure, but it's certainly not literally impossible to kill him before T4. Taking between 4-8 wounds per turn shouldn't be very difficult for a good deal of armies. Even pure gunline could probably plonk him down some in overwatch or a targeted smite/other random source of MWs in like the charge or movement phase.
The ability hits skew armies (let's call them) harder but Ghaz shouldn't be a threat until T2-3 anyways assuming you didn't tellyporta him in. If he was tellyportad in then zoning him out should be highly doable
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2020/03/15 16:03:03
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Seeing the amount of damage certain ork units can do, and how quickly those units are usually targeted, Ghaz provides a distraction for those, ignore him and he’ll wreak havoc, make him the focus and the lootas and mek guns etc are going to have free reign.
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2020/03/15 16:13:24
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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 BaconCatBug wrote:Yup. It means Ghaz cannot be killed before Turn 4 and coupled with Command Re-rolls you could easily make it so Ghaz literally can't be killed.
Meanwhile Volcano Cannons can delete an Imperial Knight in a single hit.
You realise it's per PHASE right? He can easily be killed in 1 turn. Enough with your hyperbole.
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2020/03/15 16:14:45
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 An Actual Englishman wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:Yup. It means Ghaz cannot be killed before Turn 4 and coupled with Command Re-rolls you could easily make it so Ghaz literally can't be killed.
Meanwhile Volcano Cannons can delete an Imperial Knight in a single hit.
You realise it's per PHASE right? He can easily be killed in 1 turn. Enough with your hyperbole.
Possible, but definitely not easy. Even with around 280pts worth of stuff (I'd say hard even with double).
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2020/03/15 16:19:03
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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An Actual Englishman wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:Yup. It means Ghaz cannot be killed before Turn 4 and coupled with Command Re-rolls you could easily make it so Ghaz literally can't be killed.
Meanwhile Volcano Cannons can delete an Imperial Knight in a single hit.
You realise it's per PHASE right? He can easily be killed in 1 turn. Enough with your hyperbole.
Pray tell, how are dark eldar, tau, sisters, necrons, knights going to kill him in 1 turn? After that, how are you landing 12 wounds across 3 phases reliably turn 1 with other armies?
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2020/03/15 16:33:46
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dudeface wrote: An Actual Englishman wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:Yup. It means Ghaz cannot be killed before Turn 4 and coupled with Command Re-rolls you could easily make it so Ghaz literally can't be killed.
Meanwhile Volcano Cannons can delete an Imperial Knight in a single hit.
You realise it's per PHASE right? He can easily be killed in 1 turn. Enough with your hyperbole.
Pray tell, how are dark eldar, tau, sisters, necrons, knights going to kill him in 1 turn? After that, how are you landing 12 wounds across 3 phases reliably turn 1 with other armies?
He said in 1 turn, not turn 1.
Smite him, shoot him, then charge him. He’s slow and has a massive base. You’ll find opportunities to do this. Or soften him up then do it in 2 of those phases.
The Goff painboy is easily sniped so you can prevent him from healing up.
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2020/03/15 16:44:48
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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tulun wrote:
Smite him, shoot him, then charge him. He’s slow and has a massive base. You’ll find opportunities to do this. Or soften him up then do it in 2 of those phases.
How do i smite with necrons and tau ? What kind of tau units will wreck him in melee ?
tulun wrote:
The Goff painboy is easily sniped so you can prevent him from healing up.
Painboys dont work on ghaz, he is a monster.
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2020/03/15 16:49:22
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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I guess you're going to have to screen and FLY away with your units before blasting him off the board? He shouldn't be too hard to run away from, with a 7" MAX move that degrades and no ability to advance and charge.
Kite him, like you're supposed to?
Edit - this crying (from both "sides") is really pathetic. Wait until we see more. We don't even have Ghaz's points cost for feths sake.
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2020/03/15 16:49:34
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 p5freak wrote:tulun wrote:
Smite him, shoot him, then charge him. He’s slow and has a massive base. You’ll find opportunities to do this. Or soften him up then do it in 2 of those phases.
How do i smite with necrons and tau ? What kind of tau units will wreck him in melee ?
tulun wrote:
The Goff painboy is easily sniped so you can prevent him from healing up.
Painboys dont work on ghaz, he is a monster.
I'm not saying every army can do this. This is 40k. Orks don't get snipers, which invalidates a lot of character I'd love to remove from the board. But a lot of armies can do this. Matchups aren't always perfect.
The stratagem Medisquig does, though. For 1 CP you heal a nearby <CLAN> character with your <CLAN> painboy.
Currently, it's the only way he can regain wounds.
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2020/03/15 16:55:50
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Lieutenant General
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From Facebook:
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
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2020/03/15 16:56:00
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Uh oh.
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 Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
Mother earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe, but I was not offended. For I knew I had to rise above it all, or drown in my own gak. |
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2020/03/15 17:01:01
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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He also doesn't affect Biker units. Just because.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
 jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
 vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
 MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
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2020/03/15 17:01:02
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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p5freak wrote:tulun wrote:
Smite him, shoot him, then charge him. He’s slow and has a massive base. You’ll find opportunities to do this. Or soften him up then do it in 2 of those phases.
How do i smite with necrons and tau ? What kind of tau units will wreck him in melee ?
Yeah, too bad that necrons don't have anything that can deal mortal wounds in the movement phase. But I guess that would be just as insane as being able to shoot multiple units during the assault phase. 
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2020/03/15 17:28:12
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Fixture of Dakka
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This lack of synergy isn't surprising from GW. The geniuses that give you a character that buffs repentia movement but gives them a small aura so they can't keep up to maintain the buff.
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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2020/03/15 18:04:13
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Lieutenant General
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2020/03/15 18:04:58
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nice kill team set, oh wait,...
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2020/03/15 18:06:15
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like how the Space Wolf side doesn't actually have any Space Wolf models...Ragnar excluded.
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2020/03/15 18:11:41
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2020 battle box. An army consist of a single squad (or 2) and a dude....
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2020/03/15 18:12:40
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Right. You can't use those in wolf army no sir. Have to sell them to others as legally can't be wielded in wolf army due to lack of space wolf keyword...yep yep
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2020/03/15 18:13:39
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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The New Miss Macross!
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 dan2026 wrote:I like how the Space Wolf side doesn't actually have any Space Wolf models...Ragnar excluded.
My internet is crappy right now. Does it at least include one of those SW chapter conversion sprues to make them wolfier?
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2020/03/15 18:13:45
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Did I hear GROT CLAN RULES?!?!
Woot!
Now all GW need to do is create a proper GRC faction and we're away!
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2020/03/15 18:14:56
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Mighty Vampire Count
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dan2026 wrote:I like how the Space Wolf side doesn't actually have any Space Wolf models...Ragnar excluded.
Well it does n't have any SPACE WULFs riding WULFS with WULF swords and WULF necklaces but it does have Ragnar and Primaris of the Space Wolves Chapter so yeah....for me thats much better.
Other than Ghaz and his little helper - the Orks look....poor...
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos 
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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2020/03/15 18:15:37
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hang on, thats nowhere near a blanced matchup. One 10 man Incursors and Ragnar are probably about the same points as Ghaz on his own.
Maybe I'm just old but I remember when you could buy a box set and have a decent 1v1 fight.
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2020/03/15 18:16:20
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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 warboss wrote: dan2026 wrote:I like how the Space Wolf side doesn't actually have any Space Wolf models...Ragnar excluded.
My internet is crappy right now. Does it at least include one of those SW chapter conversion sprues to make them wolfier?
according to picture? No, except you butcher ragnar.
Otoh, infiltrators make with slight conversion nice Alpha legionaires.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2020/03/15 18:20:35
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Bowie wrote:Hang on, thats nowhere near a blanced matchup. One 10 man Incursors and Ragnar are probably about the same points as Ghaz on his own.
It's intended to be fielded as 2 5-man squads. There's two Comms Array models shown.
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2020/03/15 18:21:02
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Krazed Killa Kan
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They mention "new clans, including a grot clan" in the video here:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/15/sunday-preview-beasts-vs-other-beasts/
"New rules for grot armies in Warhammer 40,000"
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/03/15 18:21:41
Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
Mother earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe, but I was not offended. For I knew I had to rise above it all, or drown in my own gak. |
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2020/03/15 18:21:53
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Per the Vanguard Marines book that came with Shadowspear, it seems the Vanguard stuff is still pretty new to the Wolves so it would make sense that the armor is fairly clean. They're not Veterans yet.
Otoh, infiltrators make with slight conversion nice Alpha legionaires.
Why, because they have backpacks with antennae?
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2020/01/12 18:23:20
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yes, that is a Kill Team product. And yes its such good value they will once again charge you the bargain price of £140.
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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2020/03/15 18:24:29
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Per the Vanguard Marines book that came with Shadowspear, it seems the Vanguard stuff is still pretty new to the Wolves so it would make sense that the armor is fairly clean. They're not Veterans yet.
Otoh, infiltrators make with slight conversion nice Alpha legionaires.
Why, because they have backpacks with antennae?
No, they have enough boltguns with scopes,For 10 men even imagine that 
No seriously. The antena backpacks are iffy. Imo.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2020/03/15 18:26:40
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R 2 - PA5 (Greater Good) onwards
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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That appeals to my inherent stupidity!
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