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Here are some pics I just took for reference. You can see that the Las pistol is glued on. Also, I'm not 100%, but that Bolt pistol on the other tie guy does not look RT or even 2ndEd. Doesn't quite look as new as 4thEd either. Maybe 3rdEd?

The arms/guns were seperate at the time.

Pics of my old school Warrior army. I started it off as kinda a joke, and then it spiralled into obsession.

That is AWESOME. And the Heroscape terrain makes it even better.

 youwashock wrote:
That is AWESOME. And the Heroscape terrain makes it even better.

Thanks!

Yeah my FLGS has a pretty healthy collection of stuff and it totally boosts the experience. It's a shame we're all locked down because I miss rolling dice there. :(

 Insectum7 wrote:

 youwashock wrote:
That is AWESOME. And the Heroscape terrain makes it even better.

Thanks!

Yeah my FLGS has a pretty healthy collection of stuff and it totally boosts the experience. It's a shame we're all locked down because I miss rolling dice there. :(

Truer words, buddy - I've been jonesing really hard for an in-person game. My flatmate and I are going to have a boardgame night on Friday and I hope it'll scratch that itch a bit.

I'm pretty sure I saw your P&M Blog a few months ago (before I had an account), with a lot of WIP pics of your warriors. Everyone should go check it out, it's full of great retro Tyranid stuff.

That is a veritable sea of old bugs As it should be.

Really impressive collection of old warriors! That is a great color scheme you have going as well. Thanks for taking the time to share.

 Nevelon wrote:
The arms/guns were seperate at the time.

Thanks, that solves that mystery. Now to solve the mystery of "how do I get to paint like that?"

SergentSilver wrote:
Here are some pics I just took for reference. You can see that the Las pistol is glued on. Also, I'm not 100%, but that Bolt pistol on the other tie guy does not look RT or even 2ndEd. Doesn't quite look as new as 4thEd either. Maybe 3rdEd?

It is a 2nd ed space marine bolt pistol, from the character sprue

 Rybrook wrote:


It is a 2nd ed space marine bolt pistol, from the character sprue

Really? Learned something new today. Any thoughts on the sword?

SergentSilver wrote:

 Rybrook wrote:


It is a 2nd ed space marine bolt pistol, from the character sprue

Really? Learned something new today. Any thoughts on the sword?

Same deal, there was a sprue of lots of different CCW, sword, axe, fist etc.

 ingtaer wrote:


Same deal, there was a sprue of lots of different CCW, sword, axe, fist etc.

Ah. Guess it just looks off for some reason. I always feel like it's too large for the model.

Yeah, those weapons were designed for space marines...

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, those weapons were designed for space marines...

The models are all in the same scale. Besides, there are Bolt Weapons sized for normal humans. You see them all the time in IG armies being used by officers and the like. The SoB use them, the Inquisition uses them, every force loyal to the Emperor has at least limited access to them. Can you imagine how big the regular SM model would have to be to meet lore? Or how small the humans? As long as they haven't changed lore since the Horus Heresy book series was finished, then SM are supposed to be ~8-10ft tall. I think Orks were something like 9-11ft for the Boyz. Obviously the Nobz and Boss were much bigger. The vehicles would have to be much larger as well. They're actually a little scaled down, even beyond being 28mm scale models iirc. Talking lore makes me want to get all the new books and read them right away. There's this lovely section in an Imperial Fists book were a SM scout squad get ambushed by Renegade Guardsmen and it describes how Lasguns actually have variable power settings and can be extremely deadly even to a fully armored SM if on the highest setting, but since the higher settings drain the power quickly -that highest setting drains the battery pack in three shots it says- the normal doctrine for Loyalist Guardsmen is on the lowest setting, because it keeps ammo near infinite. Which of course explains why the Standard Issue Imperial Flashlight is so wimpy in-game. My old 4th and 5th Ed books have it as a "24" / Str:3 / Ap:- / Rapid Fire" weapon. I highly doubt it's changed much if at all.

Here's another little guy.


I've also got a Goblin John Motson somewhere too, think I have a pic.


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Make that TERRIBLE pic.

SergentSilver wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, those weapons were designed for space marines...

The models are all in the same scale. Besides, there are Bolt Weapons sized for normal humans. You see them all the time in IG armies being used by officers and the like. The SoB use them, the Inquisition uses them, every force loyal to the Emperor has at least limited access to them. Can you imagine how big the regular SM model would have to be to meet lore? Or how small the humans? As long as they haven't changed lore since the Horus Heresy book series was finished, then SM are supposed to be ~8-10ft tall. I think Orks were something like 9-11ft for the Boyz. Obviously the Nobz and Boss were much bigger. The vehicles would have to be much larger as well. They're actually a little scaled down, even beyond being 28mm scale models iirc. Talking lore makes me want to get all the new books and read them right away. There's this lovely section in an Imperial Fists book were a SM scout squad get ambushed by Renegade Guardsmen and it describes how Lasguns actually have variable power settings and can be extremely deadly even to a fully armored SM if on the highest setting, but since the higher settings drain the power quickly -that highest setting drains the battery pack in three shots it says- the normal doctrine for Loyalist Guardsmen is on the lowest setting, because it keeps ammo near infinite. Which of course explains why the Standard Issue Imperial Flashlight is so wimpy in-game. My old 4th and 5th Ed books have it as a "24" / Str:3 / Ap:- / Rapid Fire" weapon. I highly doubt it's changed much if at all.

Sorry insaniak, I went a bit off the edge there. It was super late and I might have come across a bit hostile. Seeing it in the morning with a clear head made me embarrassed. I also rambled way off track towards the end. lol

I thought what you said was really interesting.

SergentSilver wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, those weapons were designed for space marines...

The models are all in the same scale. Besides, there are Bolt Weapons sized for normal humans. .

Yes, there are. I was responding to your comment that these particular weapons seemed too big for the models. And that's because they are. Weapons for Guard have always tended to be slightly smaller than the Marine versions.

This is the sprue that those weapons came from. While the weapons could certainly be used on any models you liked, it was specifically scaled for Marines. Most noticeable from the size of the sword and axe handles.

Is that a laspistol second from the bottom there? Didn't realize that Marines could take 'em!

 Don Qui Hotep wrote:
Is that a laspistol second from the bottom there? Didn't realize that Marines could take 'em!

Yes, top to bottom -
- Bolt Pistol
- Autopistol
- Hand Flamer
- Laspistol
- Plasma Pistol

I believe Marines could take all of those in Rogue Trader, although by second edition autopistols and laspistols had been dropped from the Marine armoury.

 theCrowe wrote:
I thought what you said was really interesting.

Thanks, I have a tendency to remember random junk like that and spout it out on the rare occasion it becomes relevant. The bit about Lasguns having settings has always made me wonder if it wouldn't be too much to ask for them to have a special order where they could be a much stronger weapon once per game. Would be a cool way to make IG troops more than just a meat shield for the tanks. Could be an officers order that each squad can only be successfully given once called Fire Hot or something and makes each Lasgun in the squad a 24" / Str:5 / Ap: 5 / Rapid Fire weapon for one turn. Would make them more interesting and useful in the same way as a combi-weapon, except unlike combi-weapons orders can fail or even cause detriments on a catastrophic failure.

Sounds like there would be a great Necromunda house rule in there somewhere.


And just to keep on topic. Here's some OOP Delaque.

 theCrowe wrote:
Sounds like there would be a great Necromunda house rule in there somewhere.

And just to keep on topic. Here's some OOP Delaque.

Nice models, especially love the terrain piece. Unfortunately, I don't know much about Necromunda other than what I can read on GWs web store.

What was Delaque's shtick? They weren't the technological ones, that was Van Saar, right? Was there as much difference back in the day on how the gangs were specialized?

 Don Qui Hotep wrote:
What was Delaque's shtick? They weren't the technological ones, that was Van Saar, right? Was there as much difference back in the day on how the gangs were specialized?

IIRC they weren't specialized. The models were distinct but they didn't have any attributes that were different. I've only got my Necromunda Rulebook here, my other books are in storage, which I can go dig up tomorrow if no one else gives a better answer but the rulebook doesn't mention any differences.

Delaque IIRC was the wannabe spy dudes. Old school Necromunda only had (basic) gangs differing in which guns and skills were easiest to get, but good rolls and battlefield salvage could net you any weapon or skill, more or less (some exceptions for certain gangs, like spyrers and enforcers did apply)

 Don Qui Hotep wrote:
What was Delaque's shtick? They weren't the technological ones, that was Van Saar, right? Was there as much difference back in the day on how the gangs were specialized?

Delaque were the sneaky ones.

But no, there wasn't a lot of difference between any of them. Your choice of gang limited which skill tables you could roll on for some advancement rolls. But because there were other advancement roll results that let you choose from any skill table, it only really made a practical difference very early in a campaign.

My favorite OOP model is the 2002 Necron Lord, the metal one that came with the Army Box. Since I didn't start playing Warhammer until 2009, and didn't get serious about my Necrons until 2011- he was long gone - but you could find him on ebay now and then. Usually it was pretty expensive - $40+ but I know once in a while it would show up for much less from someone who didn't realize it was OOP. I decided in my head that I wasn't paying 40 - I would pay no more than 20.

I had ever Necron lord ever sold except this one. This $20 or bust situation went on for 5 years before I realized this was a stupid hill to die on and bought one for $30. Once I did, what was the first thing I did with this classic old model? Tarted him up needlessly with devil horns.

 Don Qui Hotep wrote:
Is that a laspistol second from the bottom there? Didn't realize that Marines could take 'em!

Back in the RT days and 2nd ed days, weapons were less restricted than 3rd ed onwards.
But mostly it was there because it was a single PLASTIC sprue with many of the weapons on it in one place.
Hell, back in RT, Marines could end up with shurken catapults (until the storm bolter came along, it was a better gun than the bolter).