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People who argue that the Lion reveal or the bull AoS thing were "nothing" are just ridiculous. At some point, a little objectivity doesn't harm. I don't play AoS and even I can actually acknowledge that those Lumineth units and the various interviews were interesting.
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WhiteDog wrote: People who argue that the Lion reveal or the bull AoS thing were "nothing" are just ridiculous.
At some point, a little objectivity doesn't harm. I don't play AoS and even I can actually acknowledge that those Lumineth units and the various interviews were interesting.
Well for some people if it's not for faction THEY play it's nothing.
So with that GW would need to to release what....100+ new models? There's 35 40k factions, 22 aos factions, 42 lotr factions and god knows how many warcry, necromunda, bb etc factions...
After all if you omit one faction then that faction player will complain "oh it was nothing. Nothing for XX I play"
Kanluwen wrote: I was genuinely surprised we did not see "Engine War" related announcements. There was a very heavy implication of there still being a few goodies for AdMech back at the LVO.
Eh are 7 new units and the biggest single faction PA release to date not enough?
On what I want to see for the next reveal - more Orks, obviously!
In seriousness I'd quite like a new edition announcement, 8th is becoming too convoluted now. I'd also like to see releases for factions other than Marines - Tyranids, Dark Eldar, Necrons have all done very poorly out of GW since 8th dropped. They're due some love.
If I was GW and had oplans for a new edition, I'd proably cancel it or delay as long as possiable. if there is a 3 month delay you could literally have "ok here's a buncha PA drops. ohh and next week, 9th edition!"
Then they should probably cancel their reveals, if there isn't anything to actually reveal.
Limited 40k reveals =/= nothing to reveal
Not what I mean. If their big ‘OMG you DON’T wanna miss this guys!!!!!’ reveal is/was a new 40k edition (as all the rumours have claimed, by the way) and they can no longer do that because of Coronavirus or whatever they should probably manage their customers’ expectations accordingly and cancel the second reveal. It would likely go down better than having customers waiting another week hoping for something that isn’t going to come.
I’m also very doubtful that their reveal schedule would change significantly in the week or so they’ve had to prepare for the Coronavirus situation, y’know - with the situation changing on a daily basis and all that. We don’t need second guess excuses as to why the only 40k reveal was Fabulous Bill which, as lovely as that model is for some people, is unlikely to live up to the expectations GWthemselves set.
Oh i don't know. A new 40K edition would probably be the most anti-climactic reveal they could have done. Focusing on actually unique and new things made it a damn site more interesting than yet another mash up of the rules.
*Sons Of Behemet. We've *seen* the order logs for them, GW even teased them as "just a myth" in a video awhile back, so if they're real, I would have thought we'd see them yesterday or next saturday.
*Primaris bikes. If that grainy pic from awhile back was real, this would have been nice to show them off Though, more primaris would have led to more grumbling from certain groups, so I suppose its no great loss.
I think a lot of people’s disappointment comes from GW hyping it as “their biggest reveal ever (was though I feel like they do that for most of their reveals).” I think a lot of those people aren’t taking into account the second half of the preview next weekend.
Overall I thought:
Warhammer animation: This specific preview looked much more interesting than the CGI one, but I’m much more interested in Inquisitors an Rogue Traders and the human side of 40k than SM.
LoTR: Eomer is a really nice model and it’s great all his options are in the kit, if I played LOTR and specifically Rohan he would be a must have.
Aelves: Not my thing, but they will definitely appeal to someone.
Fabius: I think a lot of people were disappointed that this was the 40k reveal. The model is nice, but he is a very niche character and is generally only played by a niche group of individuals within CSM. I haven’t played 40k since early 7th, but I used to play a ton between 3rd and 5th and I have never seen anyone play him, or even own a model. Surely he has fans, but I think the 40k crowd wanted something less narrow in focus. That said I am pretty much certain we will get a bunch more 40k next weekend.
The Lion: Really nice model, I don’t play HH and I think having Primarchs on the tabletop is silly, but I’m happy for people who will get to play with him or paint him as a display piece.
Warcry: This is my jam, I love Warcry and more specifically the Warcry Chaos bands. I feel GW has really knocked it out of the park with that range and these guys are no exception. I will definitely be picking them up.
Next week I expect the big reveals
-9th edition or a new 40k army or something
-A new or updated game (maybe kill team 2.0 or something like Battlefleet Gothic)
And then
-A Blood Bowl team
-Something for Blackstone
-A kill team expansion if we don’t get a kill team 2.0 announcement
Not to get off topic, but I think it's important to remember that GW claimed that Adepticon was going to be the biggest reveal evAr! Removed
If a new edition is coming, I suspect that it got pushed back at least a year to allow things to get closer to whatever the new economic normal will be. Sadly, a lot of game stores may not survive this.
Reveals might stay on schedule, but I can guarantee that the release schedule has been reordered.
Given what we've seen Saturday, we'll likely see more things related to them (i.e. Custodes, Chaos Space Marines and Animation).
The one thing I've noticed is that the DP of Nurgle is no longer on GW's website.
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oni wrote: Not to get off topic, but I think it's important to remember that GW claimed that Adepticon was going to be the biggest reveal evAr! Removed
A bit unnecessary.
I imagine there's been lots of emergency meetings about schedules at GW of late.
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Fabius: I think a lot of people were disappointed that this was the 40k reveal. The model is nice, but he is a very niche character and is generally only played by a niche group of individuals within CSM. I haven’t played 40k since early 7th, but I used to play a ton between 3rd and 5th and I have never seen anyone play him, or even own a model. Surely he has fans, but I think the 40k crowd wanted something less narrow in focus.
Well, he always had the potential to be more popular (model was top-notch back then and the fluff nice), but never got the rules or supporting models (there was a box with a retinue in 3rd edition, but the models were awful). For example, he should have been available for IG from the beginning, like Cypher.
Fabius: I think a lot of people were disappointed that this was the 40k reveal. The model is nice, but he is a very niche character and is generally only played by a niche group of individuals within CSM. I haven’t played 40k since early 7th, but I used to play a ton between 3rd and 5th and I have never seen anyone play him, or even own a model. Surely he has fans, but I think the 40k crowd wanted something less narrow in focus.
Well, he always had the potential to be more popular (model was top-notch back then and the fluff nice), but never got the rules or supporting models (there was a box with a retinue in 3rd edition, but the models were awful). For example, he should have been available for IG from the beginning, like Cypher.
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Bobthehero wrote: Did they really have a Catachan just a get a bit of skin torn off by a direct hellgun shot.
Yeah that was uh, a bit weird, clearly the most questionable part of the teaser for me.
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Fabius: I think a lot of people were disappointed that this was the 40k reveal. The model is nice, but he is a very niche character and is generally only played by a niche group of individuals within CSM. I haven’t played 40k since early 7th, but I used to play a ton between 3rd and 5th and I have never seen anyone play him, or even own a model. Surely he has fans, but I think the 40k crowd wanted something less narrow in focus.
Well, he always had the potential to be more popular (model was top-notch back then and the fluff nice), but never got the rules or supporting models (there was a box with a retinue in 3rd edition, but the models were awful). For example, he should have been available for IG from the beginning, like Cypher.
I guess to a degree huron blackheart.
Solid charachter, well developped but not really at the forefront.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Guess the old eyes and memory need more bleaching.
Please don't, the Hospitals are allready full enough.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Bobthehero wrote: Did they really have a Catachan just a get a bit of skin torn off by a direct hellgun shot.
Wasn’t quite a “bit” of skin. That hot-shot round burned right to the bones. And, I think that could have been a few inches of muscle on that forearm.
Considering how a normal lasgun wound is described in the Lore the catachan should've gone poof.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Well, he always had the potential to be more popular
The same could be said of almost any character.
Not really. Examples?
Literally any character. Name one. They had the potential to be more popular, if only there were more players of x faction, if only the sculpt were better, if only the fluff more developed, if only etc etc
Bobthehero wrote: Did they really have a Catachan just a get a bit of skin torn off by a direct hellgun shot.
Wasn’t quite a “bit” of skin. That hot-shot round burned right to the bones. And, I think that could have been a few inches of muscle on that forearm.
A hellgun shot should either have removed his hand, or burned a small hole through the arm, and then through his chest, these things are meant to go through power armor, after all.
Well, he always had the potential to be more popular
The same could be said of almost any character.
Not really. Examples?
Literally any character. Name one. They had the potential to be more popular, if only there were more players of x faction, if only the sculpt were better, if only the fluff more developed, if only etc etc
I think maybe people are reacting a little early to the previews. If they follow the typical big event reveal pattern the really big stuff will come last, which means next weekend. Or maybe I'm just hoping.
I think people should wait till the end of this reveal series before we judge. I could be wrong, but I imagine all these reveals would have happened on the same day at Adepticon, and now they're spread out of a week or two. So if next weeks reveal is great, they didn't hype it up for nothing. If it's just some specialist game updates, a new unit for a necromunda gang, etc, then the hype wasn't warranted.
They won't hype up another necromunda release until the Escher book is out. Saturday has no specialist games in the mix though.. which was disappointing so i'm at least hoping for something for blood bowl and maybe more Tau stuff for aeronautica next weekend.
Im hoping that a new fantasy warhammer quest might be previewed, but I also think if that were happening it would have been previewed at GAMA. (So while I would hope, I don't think it will happen.)
I pretty much expect all of next Sat to be spess mareenz
Thargrim wrote: They won't hype up another necromunda release until the Escher book is out. Saturday has no specialist games in the mix though.. which was disappointing so i'm at least hoping for something for blood bowl and maybe more Tau stuff for aeronautica next weekend.
They could show off the sprues for the new cerastus knights for at and the new book