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It seems really weird they'd release a PA that only updates the rules for a single faction, especially when only SoB and Necrons are left and they are both getting models in said PA. But that does seem to be what the previews are saying, and it is different than what the previews for the other PAs said.

So I guess when they said that SoBs would get their own PA content, they were being economical with the truth.

Well, maybe. Or maybe it's all just a weird PR snafu and they and necrons are getting something beyond just the rules for the new models. We'll see soon enough I guess.

"They got rules for Stern!"

There. That counts as PA SoB rules, right?

 alextroy wrote:
I have to agree. The conspicuous absent of a statement saying there will be rules for Necrons means there will not be rules for Necrons. That will make Necrons the only army to not get any Psychic Awakening content. The best deduction from that is that a new Codex Necrons is imminent.

My guess, Codex Necrons by the end of August.

Necrons are getting Iluminor Szeras as a new kit and with new rules.

Harlequins' Psychic Awakening stuff is in White Dwarf #454(Ghazghkull on the cover) alongside of the Lumineth rules for WarCry.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
I have to agree. The conspicuous absent of a statement saying there will be rules for Necrons means there will not be rules for Necrons. That will make Necrons the only army to not get any Psychic Awakening content. The best deduction from that is that a new Codex Necrons is imminent.

My guess, Codex Necrons by the end of August.

Necrons are getting Iluminor Szeras as a new kit and with new rules.

Harlequins' Psychic Awakening stuff is in White Dwarf #454(Ghazghkull on the cover) alongside of the Lumineth rules for WarCry.

New rules for Illuminor Szeras. Not a word on any other Necron rules. While that is technically Necron content, it's the least content any faction has gotten, even Harlequins and Deathwatch via White Dwarf.

If I were a betting man, I'd say that Necrons, Deathwatch, and Harlequins will be the first three codexes of 9th Edition. Of course, I could just be guessing from GW's tea leaves.

Hey, at least you got a new model. Us World Eaters are lucky to get one of those a decade.

Not to mention the irony of the first Harlequin named character...being for Imperium, not for Harlequins.

Sometimes you can't make this stuff up.

Harlequins should never have been considered a stand alone army. Neither should mechanicus frankly...

 jeff white wrote:
Harlequins should never have been considered a stand alone army. Neither should mechanicus frankly...

Why?

They've already said in some of the shows about 9th edition that Necrons are going to be one of the first (if not the first) books released. Pete Foley and Stu Black also said that deathwatch would be coming not long after 9th edition drops.

Another pass for me. Got burned with the first few PA books and decided not to bother with them, unless it was for a faction I was playing right now. And while I am planning on restarting Necrons, 9th and there new Codex will most likely be out(or very close) before I can do anything other than build and paint.

Bob Lorgar wrote:
Hey, at least you got a new model. Us World Eaters are lucky to get one of those a decade.

So true.
Us Emperor Children do agree...
Not even a single full kit for ages...

 jeff white wrote:
Harlequins should never have been considered a stand alone army. Neither should mechanicus frankly...

OK, I can juuust about see why you’d think that about Harlequins (same reason DE shouldn’t be in Epic, more or less) I guess. Except that ignores just how small scale most 40k games actually are.
But Adeptus Mechanicus? The second human empire? The one that is completely separate both administratively and logistically and sends out it’s own fleets with no regard for the wishes of the Imperium?
If they don’t deserve a book, Eldar and Dark Eldar should either be in the same book or DE shouldn’t exist.

Yeah 40k battles are sooooooo tiny that pretty much anything goes anyway. Unit that's supposedly very rare in chapter? Fine. You can still field army of all those and not even break fluff since there would still be plenty more left. White scar dreadnoughts for example.

 jeff white wrote:
Harlequins should never have been considered a stand alone army. Neither should mechanicus frankly...

So a galaxy spanning Empire with truly vast numbers of military hardware and troops, plus a unique asthetic should not be a stand alone army but we should have how many "stand alone" marine armies consisting of a tiny number of Marines..... because.....

Wow thats a serous attempting at Trolling

Yeah, Ad Mech not being an army is... a take.

I think there's an argument that some forces don't really need to work standalone as they're entirely there for support roles (Harlies is a reasonable example, as a few bits of the Imperial range tbh) but that doesn't mean they need to be entirely folded into something else either.

While soup is being discouraged a bit in the new edition I think we'll still see a general direction of travel like in AOS where smaller factions that tend to ally happen more often to let GW do different things.

So when is Pariah and Ephrael Stern, etc. being released?

I'm guessing available for pre-order this weekend but they're usually not shy about repeating that sort of thing constantly and I don't see a date in Sunday's article.

Lanlaorn wrote:
So when is Pariah and Ephrael Stern, etc. being released?

I'm guessing available for pre-order this weekend but they're usually not shy about repeating that sort of thing constantly and I don't see a date in Sunday's article.

yes, it was an article. Preorder this Saturday, release on July 4th. Which I guess means for us in the US, we'll get them July 5th since stores will be closed on the 4th.

I adore that the article that mentions Stern says that the harlequin

the very first harlequin named character in general.

First harlequin model ever released since Harlequins were rebooted in early 7th edition.

...Cannot seemingly be used in a harlequin army, but can be in any Imperium army. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

the_scotsman wrote:
I adore that the article that mentions Stern says that the harlequin

the very first harlequin named character in general.

First harlequin model ever released since Harlequins were rebooted in early 7th edition.

...Cannot seemingly be used in a harlequin army, but can be in any Imperium army. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

To be fair, we technically had a named Harlequin in 7th which was a Death Jester, but the only difference is he had either Stealth or Shrouded.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
I adore that the article that mentions Stern says that the harlequin

the very first harlequin named character in general.

First harlequin model ever released since Harlequins were rebooted in early 7th edition.

...Cannot seemingly be used in a harlequin army, but can be in any Imperium army. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

To be fair, we technically had a named Harlequin in 7th which was a Death Jester, but the only difference is he had either Stealth or Shrouded.

Yeah, he also got shot in the face in the little fluff booklet where he got introduced.

I will never understand GW's obsession with making these battle box-sets have a canonical winner and loser in the story that comes in the box. It isn't that hard gang, just write "How will the battle end? You'll have to play a game with your new miniatures to find out!"

Players wanted "dynamic story" rather than setting

You described what 40k originally was. Then gw gave players what they wanted. Saturday cartoon

Also, cannot wait to find out

1) that inquisitor Namey Mcnameface is the ONLY INQUISITOR EVER to have a shuriken catapult and xenos familiar. Other ordo xenos inquisitor are VERBOTEN from having such things!!!!

2) that inquisitor Namey Mcnameface has a super special imperial version of a shuriken catapult that's 24" range assault 4 S4 AP-3 D2 and does a mortal wound on a 6 to hit.

Following on the grand imperial tradition of every time they get some piece of stolen xenos equipment it gets to be 100% better than the xenos army they stole it from, ala the deathwatch stealing a necron lychguard power sword and making it suddenly ignore invuln saves.


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So the content of this book is:

1) Missions (that will be IMMEDIATELY obsolete in 9th ed)

2) special terrain boards (that will be IMMEDIATELY obsolete in 9th ed)

3) Inquisition rules (Copy/pasted from a white dwarf you can get online for 10$)

4) 4 new character datasheets.

Incredible. Seems GW is following that old business adage "when you want to make a series of something, start with gak, close out with gak, and stuff all the good things in the middle!"

tneva82 wrote:
Players wanted "dynamic story" rather than setting

You described what 40k originally was. Then gw gave players what they wanted. Saturday cartoon

Sorry if some of us got bored with 'LOOK HOW SAD EVERYONE IS!!! ALL THE TIME!!! NOTHING BUT SADNESS!!! LETS GO LISTEN TO CANNIBAL CORPSE ALL DAY GUYS!!!' Which is what 40k actually was.

Having seen the index of the book in the 9th Edition rumor topic, I cannot help but wonder what the point of this book is. The Inquisition rules seem to be (mostly) a reprint of the White Dwarf rules. How do those 4 models warrant a full PA book, with a cinematic trailer showing off multiple factions, whereas Harlequins and Deathwatch get a White Dwarf update? Even more ironic that the WD rules of the Inquisition apparently do need to be covered (again) in a PA book...

GW: Hey Sisters players.
Sisters Players: Yeah?
GW: You know how the Psychic Awakening books have a host of new custom chapter/regiment/Knight House/etc. rules for the various factions, along with a list of new relics, warlord traits and -tons- of stratagems?
Sisters Players: We sure do!
GW: Well feth you. You get a Harlequin.

I mean, I thought being relegated to White Dwarf was bad, but at least the Harlis got some half-way decent rules. They don't even get a name generator FFS!

Us3Less wrote:
Having seen the index of the book in the 9th Edition rumor topic, I cannot help but wonder what the point of this book is. The Inquisition rules seem to be (mostly) a reprint of the White Dwarf rules. How do those 4 models warrant a full PA book, with a cinematic trailer showing off multiple factions, whereas Harlequins and Deathwatch get a White Dwarf update? Even more ironic that the WD rules of the Inquisition apparently do need to be covered (again) in a PA book...

Embarrassed GW PR rep shuffles into press conference, not making eye contact

"hey everybody hope you're all excited for the exciting conclusion of the psychicawakeningepicsaga... we've got some real cool new miniatures for this one it's your favorite ephrel stern....the mini designer said she was supposed to be falling like on the book cover but she just kinda looks like marilyn monroe went super saiyan. She's got her boyfriend with her kryghdlhgl, focus groups couldnt tell he was supposed to be a harlequin so we put some diamonds on the base there.

Sigh...we've got some missions and terrain stuff in there...I know everyone is real excited about the upcoming redesigned missions and terrain rules for 9th edition we've been previewing...this isn't that, but like, we think it might be real fun to simulate the diverse battlefields of the 41st millennium... you won't believe how many different ways these missions will deal mortal wounds to units on a 1...Legal tells me I have to tell you not to try and get a game in with these rules before quarantine lifts though.

Oh, also we wanted to do a reprint of the inquisition stuff we did in the white dwarf. So i guess the inquisition is in there in the mix....heres a miniature we took from AOS that we were gonna do but we couldn't figure out which faction it was for so we stuck a shuriken catapult on it...her name's...I forget, it's fine whatever...

And lastly we've got this spider guy, he's pretty cool. I mean you've already seen all the new necron stuff. That's gonna come later, like, next month. His rules are gonna be in the codex too. Not really a point to getting the book for him.

Anyway, that's the preview. Uh. Psychic awakening, um.. what'd we call this one? Whatever, it's stupid, just..the new edition is next month.

the_scotsman wrote:

So the content of this book is:

1) Missions (that will be IMMEDIATELY obsolete in 9th ed)

2) special terrain boards (that will be IMMEDIATELY obsolete in 9th ed)

3) Inquisition rules (Copy/pasted from a white dwarf you can get online for 10$)

4) 4 new character datasheets.

Incredible. Seems GW is following that old business adage "when you want to make a series of something, start with gak, close out with gak, and stuff all the good things in the middle!"

Not quite:

1) Missions are narrative, so fine for 9th Edition if you aren't playing Matched Play

2) Specifically designed with 9th Edition in mind per Stu Black. The only pity about this is that they weren't published in the specific PA books they applied to. Did you notice there are 9 and the order they apply to the books in published order?

3) Maybe, maybe not. But now they will be in print rather than a WD that can only be purchased electronically or at an inflated rate via eBay.

4) Yes. 4 new character datasheets, which is actually more than many PA got.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
GW: Hey Sisters players.
Sisters Players: Yeah?
GW: You know how the Psychic Awakening books have a host of new custom chapter/regiment/Knight House/etc. rules for the various factions, along with a list of new relics, warlord traits and -tons- of stratagems?
Sisters Players: We sure do!
GW: Well feth you. You get a Harlequin.

I mean, I thought being relegated to White Dwarf was bad, but at least the Harlis got some half-way decent rules. They don't even get a name generator FFS!

The stupid thing is, I didn't expect anything for Sisters after their army box had Faith & Fury printed on it. I figured that was their F&F PA release, and that's that. But then GW specifically said we'd get more content in another PA book. The Sisters codex is a great book, with a lot of content, so luckily I don't feel additional PA content was needed to 'complete' my army. Saying we get more content which is just a single model is really dumb though. Well, GW is GW again, I guess. They do a lot of hit and misses for me, always a bit of a coin flip if something new is good or bad.