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I just found out that there is a Malala conspiracy. You may recall her as the girl that was shot in the face by the Taliban for going to school. Since, she has become an international sensation.

The conspiracy theory is that her family worked with the CIA to co-ordinate her getting shot in the face to discredit the Taliban. It also includes Robert De Niro in disguise as an Uzbeck, so maybe there is an upcoming movie buried in this theory somewhere?

Serial? That’s an actual theory?

Mind you, after the utter, utter nonsense spread about Sandy Hook, I shouldn’t be so surprised.

Something that comes to my mind in all of this is how, in the 21st century, policy regarding free speech has been rendered woefully underdeveloped. There is little to no accountability for peddling complete lies, let alone bending the truth. In the Age of Misinformation this does not cut it, and we see society suffer as a result. But there are two sides to that coin; society does not value honesty, which makes me see the circumstances others have outlined on the last page as self-inflicted almost as much as they are victims. It does not take an education to be reasonable, to say 'prove it' or 'why should we believe you?'

Who has heard of "The Great Reset" conspiracy theory?

 SolarCross wrote:
Who has heard of "The Great Reset" conspiracy theory?

Is a conspiracy when the main guy wrote a book about it and all videos are getting deleted ?

That’s part of mud flood tomfoolery, I believe?

Or they at least intersect in terms of the sheer banality of the “proof” presented.

Pretty sure Barnabas Nagy has produced some youtube drivel on it. Mind you, he also claims penguins are fake, amongst other such tosh.


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That’s part of mud flood tomfoolery, I believe?

Or they at least intersect in terms of the sheer banality of the “proof” presented.

Pretty sure Barnabas Nagy has produced some youtube drivel on it. Mind you, he also claims penguins are fake, amongst other such tosh.


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Here’s Sir Sic ripping into one of Barney’s lunatic rambling (probs NSFW)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3dIXG-j_GE&t=926s

What's the great reset theory?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset

Naw its more that several leaders suggested rebuilding and instilling some economic moves toward longer term sustainability and such and some are jumping on it and bundling it with Covid ideas that the whole pandemic was created to basically allow the rich to instil a world wide military style form of governing.

With such terrible things as mandatory vaccinations - anti-vax camps - military on the streets and other such things.



Basically its a mess of Covid stuff bundled against what is, from what I can tell, a bid to encourage sustainable and longer term investment and attempts to curb some of the short term max yield economics that big business often focuses upon.

 Overread wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset

Naw its more that several leaders suggested rebuilding and instilling some economic moves toward longer term sustainability and such and some are jumping on it and bundling it with Covid ideas that the whole pandemic was created to basically allow the rich to instil a world wide military style form of governing.

With such terrible things as mandatory vaccinations - anti-vax camps - military on the streets and other such things.



Basically its a mess of Covid stuff bundled against what is, from what I can tell, a bid to encourage sustainable and longer term investment and attempts to curb some of the short term max yield economics that big business often focuses upon.

Looked it up, thanks.

Where do i sign?

seriously, sometimes a disaster gives people the chance to rebuild better. Hell, after rome burned (an event Nero certainly did not play the fiddle at, and most likely didn't cause) it was rebuilt better in every way, with the world's first fire codes (Very sensible laws written by Nero, who is largely uncredited for creating them) as a guideline for it's rebuilding. The romans had a saying "Rome burned as a city of wood and rose from the ashes as a city of stone."

After WW2 both japan and europe, especially germany, has to rebuild and generally built well planned, laid out cities that were better planned and built than the cities devastated in the war.

So I say "FETH YEAH!" we should do a reset of our economic systems after covid. I'd like to see ones that are more attuned to the needs of the many, so it might be a little hard to do. But if building a better, stronger, more survivable economy better able to survive disasters makes you a 'conspirator" just hand me an Illuminati membership card and I'll sign my name on it! Go ahead and start my Majestic 12 members monthly magazine too.

 Overread wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset

Naw its more that several leaders suggested rebuilding and instilling some economic moves toward longer term sustainability and such and some are jumping on it and bundling it with Covid ideas that the whole pandemic was created to basically allow the rich to instil a world wide military style form of governing.

With such terrible things as mandatory vaccinations - anti-vax camps - military on the streets and other such things.



Basically its a mess of Covid stuff bundled against what is, from what I can tell, a bid to encourage sustainable and longer term investment and attempts to curb some of the short term max yield economics that big business often focuses upon.

But like... the ones putting military on the streets are the same ones who kicked off the Covid-conspiracy. Ugh.

The conspiracy theory alleges that "global financial elites" and world leaders have planned a pandemic, deliberately letting loose the coronavirus to cause the conditions that will allow a restructuring of the world's governments. It alleges that the main goals of the Great Reset are to take global political and economic control by instating a Marxist totalitarian regime and by extension, the New World Order.[2][7][17] It is claimed that such a regime would abolish personal ownership and property rights, send the military into cities, impose mandatory vaccination, and create isolation camps for people who resist.[14][18] Various examples which proponents claim are evidence of a conspiracy include a 2016 WEF piece describing what life might be like in 2030, Joe Biden's campaign slogan "Build Back Better", and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's September 2020 speech. According to The Daily Dot, this is merely discourse illustrating how to create a more just and sustainable world.[19][17] In some variations of the theory, US President Donald Trump is the only world leader keeping the scheme from happening, based on a video from August 2020 which has been viewed over three million times.[2][3]

BINGO?

I mean that's 6 in a row , in the first paragraf:
Plandemic, the "financial elites", Marxism new order, Camps for anti vax, sublime messaging and Trump vs the "deepstate".

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Overread wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset

Naw its more that several leaders suggested rebuilding and instilling some economic moves toward longer term sustainability and such and some are jumping on it and bundling it with Covid ideas that the whole pandemic was created to basically allow the rich to instil a world wide military style form of governing.

With such terrible things as mandatory vaccinations - anti-vax camps - military on the streets and other such things.



Basically its a mess of Covid stuff bundled against what is, from what I can tell, a bid to encourage sustainable and longer term investment and attempts to curb some of the short term max yield economics that big business often focuses upon.

But like... the ones putting military on the streets are the same ones who kicked off the Covid-conspiracy. Ugh.

Welcome to conservatism 101, where you project all your wet dreams onto the other side of the political divide.

The financial elite.....want Marxism?

Marxism? The Financial Elite?

And the world leaders are planning this reset so they can take control?

The guys in charge have hatched a far reaching, complicated plot.... so they can be in charge?

With 'man of the people' Donny keeping them all in check?

Something I wonder about.

What ratio of Believers to Sheeple needs to be attained in order for the nefarious schemes of the Zionists/Lizard People/FEMA/Deepstate to be over thrown?

Has any conspiracist actually given a manifesto pledge of what we should aspire to after the overthrow?





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MarkNorfolk wrote:
And the world leaders are planning this reset so they can take control?

The guys in charge have hatched a far reaching, complicated plot.... so they can be in charge?

With 'man of the people' Donny keeping them all in check?

THEY ARE MERE PUPPETS!!

Wait.....am I the Financial Elite?

I mean, I work in the finance industry. And I am the sort of dirty lefty known to cause the Daily Mail to clutch their pearls at 50 paces....

But....I’m also predominantly a tosspot? And my professional reach is strictly limited.

If I am this financial elite, and being a dirty lefty known to cause the Daily Mail to clutch their pearls at 50 paces......where’s my sodding cheque?

I wants my Soros money, dammit! And though the pubs are shut, it better at least be worth a night out.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The financial elite.....want Marxism?

Marxism? The Financial Elite?

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Give it time, its just a baby. It's still got to find its feet and its own identity. Right now its just developing and experimenting with any old conspiracies it can attach itself too. Given time and a proper crib of tin foil it might well grow into its own mature style of conspiracy.

 Overread wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The financial elite.....want Marxism?

Marxism? The Financial Elite?

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Give it time, its just a baby. It's still got to find its feet and its own identity. Right now its just developing and experimenting with any old conspiracies it can attach itself too. Given time and a proper crib of tin foil it might well grow into its own mature style of conspiracy.

it's clearly a diverse group of propagaters (from the alt medical branch to anti vax to those special paranoid people to to to etc.), therefore it will never be as conciesce.

And yes MDG most conspiracy theories as have most cults, do have alot of contradictory beliefs. Further the connection is old , 20th and 19th century old from an angry austrian little man with constant shoutitis old.

As an aside though, considering how the elite lived in communist countries (like the DDR in resorts f.e.) it might not even be as completly absurd. But then really all totalitarian systems are absurd by design.




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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Wait.....am I the Financial Elite?

I mean, I work in the finance industry. And I am the sort of dirty lefty known to cause the Daily Mail to clutch their pearls at 50 paces....

But....I’m also predominantly a tosspot? And my professional reach is strictly limited.

If I am this financial elite, and being a dirty lefty known to cause the Daily Mail to clutch their pearls at 50 paces......where’s my sodding cheque?

I wants my Soros money, dammit! And though the pubs are shut, it better at least be worth a night out.

you don't get the cheque because you are not those kind of financial elite, aka jewish and not left enough aka judeo bolschewist.
Where do you think the whole nonsense comes from, it's the same absurd shouty mac shout style.
Heck you can even read that nonsense in a certain abuse of german language.

I still want my delicious Soros money.

Great Reset is surely related to the daddy of all current “pants on head hatstand insane drivel” Qanon?

Maybe in an attempt to morph from a load of old cobblers where nothing actually came true?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I still want my delicious Soros money.

Great Reset is surely related to the daddy of all current “pants on head hatstand insane drivel” Qanon?

Maybe in an attempt to morph from a load of old cobblers where nothing actually came true?

Qanon is well known, but sweet summer child it is not even the pinacle of it, just a hitchhiker to latch onto it. Chances are certain countries are involved (cue russia, china or any other irregular mediawarfare yes that exists as a separate assymetrical form of warfare) or others like venezuela and North korea which maintain their population under an iron heel with a mixture of nonsense conspiracy and military force.
Not even going torwards organised religious fringes which are just as likely to propagate more of them.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The financial elite.....want Marxism?

Marxism? The Financial Elite?

My thoughts exactly.

I wonder how long it'll take for those monoliths that have been popping up to be included in those conspiracy theories.
I'm certain they'll spawn some of their own at least.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The financial elite.....want Marxism?

Marxism? The Financial Elite?

Conspiracy theorists are not a new thing, famous 19th century conspiracy theorist Mikhail Bakunin said as much himself.

Himself a Jew, Marx has around him, in London and France, but especially in Germany, a multitude of more or less clever, intriguing, mobile, speculating Jews, such as Jews are every where: commercial or banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades, with one foot in the bank, the other in the socialist movement, and with their behinds sitting on the German daily press — they have taken possession of all the newspapers — and you can imagine what kind of sickening literature they produce. Now, this entire Jewish world, which forms a single profiteering sect, a people of blooksuckers, a single gluttonnous parasite, closely and intimately united not only across national borders but across all differences of political opinion — this Jewish world today stands for the most part at the disposal of Marx and at the same time at the disposal of Rothschild. I am certain that Rothschild for his part greatly values the merits of Marx, and that Marx for his part feels instinctive attraction and great respect for Rothschild.
This may seem strange. What can there be in common between Communism and the large banks? Oh! The Communism of Marx seeks enormous centralization in the state, and where such exists, there must inevitably be a central state bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, which. speculates on the work of the people, will always find a way to prevail ....

- Mikhail Bakunin - Source: Michael Bakunin, 1871, Personliche Beziehungen zu Marx. In: Gesammelte Werke. Band 3. Berlin 1924. P. 204-216.

Powerful states can maintain themselves only by crime, little states are virtuous only by weakness.
- Bakunin

The privilege of ruling would be in the hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted by the enormous extension of the international speculations of the national banks.
-Bakunin

I’m really not sure where you’re going with that post fella?

Nobody has claimed CT’s to be a particularly modern invention?

Indeed, anti-Semitic CT’s are very, very old, long predating 1903’s “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”

Thanks for sharing the Great Reset.

It sounds bit like synthesizing and repackaging a lot of old Conspiracy Theories into a new, more modern package. Take good ol' fashion anti-semiticism, classic anti-communism, and add on a gloss of "Plandemic". I suppose there is nothing new under the sun.....

Art Bell and the Coast-to-Coast crew would have loved it!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m really not sure where you’re going with that post fella?

Nobody has claimed CT’s to be a particularly modern invention?

Indeed, anti-Semitic CT’s are very, very old, long predating 1903’s “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”

Bakunin may well be the point of origin for a lot modern conspiracy theories, especially the ones that revolve around a secret cabal controlling the world. I just thought the quotes were a nice find for a historical context. It has to be said that dark imaginings about jews is more or less a standard conspiracy theory for Christians going back a millennia or more. Google the Blood Libels of medieval europe. Rothschilde of course is still to the day a name frequently pulled out in modern conspiracy theories. Nothing new under the Sun, I suppose.


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Anyway to go back to my favourite hobby horse. Conspiracy theorists are in no way intellectually inferior to circlejerk internet normies. Everything that everyone believes is false, but at least the conspiracy theorists are daring enough to defy the narratives of authority and are creative enough to entertain unconventional narratives. Moreover much of what they pull into their narratives comes from sources that any internet normie would regard as an authority anyway. What normie would say the Jerusalem Post was a fringe rag? Is it not at least as respectable as the BBC or CNN (snigger)?

Wouldn't an retired Israeli General and professor count as an authority figure for normies as well as conspiracy believers? So what would a normie make of an article in the Jersalem Post claiming that an Israeli General has revealed that a "Galactic Federation" has been in contact with humanity for ages but it was all hushed up because the aliens thought all the normies would freak out (they probably would too in fairness). A story which happens to align 100% with the Men in Black covered up alien contact conspiracy theory that has been around since at least Roswell.

https://www.jpost.com/omg/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-aliens-exist-humanity-not-ready-651405

Now it may be fair to say that taking this story as read is not safe (because even respectable authorities goof up) but it is hardly makes someone who does a literal crazy person or a moron. And a normie who just blanks it out because he can't process it is not the superior intellect he thinks he is.

If you believe everything is false..... then anything can be true. If you believe nothing, you can believe anything.

That is part of the problem on why Conspiracy Theory's multiply. There is a shocking number of people in the world who are Nihilists that believe in Nothing.

Also, a interesting one I ran across today was called Project: Bright Beam. Basically, NASA was using some New Age religion via technology to trigger the Second Coming. I had not heard of this one before either..... but I ran across it in the wild related to the Utah Monolith.

 Easy E wrote:
If you believe everything is false..... then anything can be true. If you believe nothing, you can believe anything.

That is part of the problem on why Conspiracy Theory's multiply. There is a shocking number of people in the world who are Nihilists that believe in Nothing.

Also, a interesting one I ran across today was called Project: Bright Beam. Basically, NASA was using some New Age religion via technology to trigger the Second Coming. I had not heard of this one before either..... but I ran across it in the wild related to the Utah Monolith.

I think I heard of that one, or something like that, but instead of triggering the second coming, it's to fool the world into thinking there's a second coming, by projecting deities on the skies across the globe into thinking all the gods have merged into one so everyone will conform to a single, world-wide government a.k.a. the NWO. It's more like a Ragnork scenario really, as it is speculated Storri wrote Ragnork specifically to link the Old Norse faith to Christianity for a Christianized Scandinavia, by killing off all but a few Norse gods with the suggestion they are servants to the God with a captial G.

Nevermind there are relgion where there isn't a second coming equivalent. Nevermind even if all world relgions merged there's going to be massive theological conflicts in the new faith. etc.

And I don't believe it's the Nihilists that believe in nothing are conspiracy theorists. Take QAnon-ism for example, the vocal majority in the U.S.A. anyway appears largely to be christian fundamentalists. These people want to react to changes in a fast-changing globalizing world by fanatically supporting a man actively opposed to globalization, who vowed to bring jobs back to the U.S., by restoring U.S. presence in the world, by making her great again. None of those things, by themselves, are bad; it's what they perceive the greatness to be like: no gays, no socialists, no healthcare, possibly not even jews. And that's why it's spreading, because the fear of globlization is also global.

It would be interesting to look at a group like the Mahdi in the Sudan, the Chinese Boxers, and other similar militant "conservative" groups and see what beliefs and belief structures they shared and how much "Globalization" impacted their rise?

I do not know enough about such topics.

That’s sounding more like a spin-off thread to be honest.

Wariness of globalisation is ultimately understandable - especially in areas where industry has been moved overseas.

But it’s also an inherently political topic, as none of it happened in a vacuum, and I fear a lot of finger pointing and squabbling over who did (or didn’t do) what and when and so on and so forth.

Conspiracy Theories get a bit more leeway there. As sure, Qanon is solidly pro-Trump, but we can still pick out their actual claims whilst not criticising their choice in political leanings.

I again urge people posting to be very careful when contributing for that very reason. So far we again all appear to be on the right side of “don’t get political”, but it’s always worth reminding folk

To be frank I believe its all nonsense.
There are no "people in charge" at some sort of global coherent scale in the form of the "illuminati". Its giving people too much credit.

I believe this nonsense is peddled so that the people in charge of stuff, who are terrified of no longer being in charge, make them seem way more in charge and powerful than they actually are.

They might huge number of digital 0s of wealth and position. But all of that is pretty meaningless if society breaks down and it goes to every man for himself in large scale anarchy. French revolution showed us that it just didint matter who you or what you own when the chips went down.

Like if society is coming crashing down and money no longer matters, what's the leverage you have on making people do what you want them to do and protect you? When a mob of random angry, hungry desperate dregs of society descend on your land and decide they want your mansion are you going to offer them money to go away? Assume your private army is no longer getting paid because money doesnt matter would they not simply leave to go be with their families ?

All people who have stuff are afraid to loose said stuff.. I think its all a bunch of opportunists terrified of their countries respective "the people" realising they are just people who got to be in charge by chance. So it's in their benefit to be held up as some sort of "elite cabal of rich people" that will come get you and know what's going on and pull string. Where in reality they are just along for a ride trying to eat as much pie as possible before they are exposed...

Humans can be vicious creatures. I like to think the world is one coin toss away from devolving into madness at any stage. The current pandemic exposed us to some nasty things. Mainly that the people in charge don't really know what they are doing and they are making stuff up as they go along.