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The more I look at it the worse it gets. That left bicep, man, seems to be connected to his armpit. Horrible balance and proportions overall, I can see why this one was marked as a limited production.

 insaniak wrote:
Indeed. GW testified in court that their designers don't use any outside influences, so clearly any resemblance to movie characters is purely coincidental.

I suppose that's why sly marbo was a thing. To be fair maybe they don't do that any more.

This is a really strange situation.

Because as far as I can see, it amounts to this: GW had 10,000 figures that it decided to give away to the FLGS's as a promotion.

Unfortunately, because way more than 10,000 people want these figures, what you immediately have is:
- An expectation that there will be scalping, pit fighting, muggings, and other assorted unpleasantness.
- The knowledge that it's going to be completely arbitrary what one person will have had to do to get one if they end up with one.
- An incredible tide of sour grapes as people realize that they probably won't get one of them.

In other words, the logical sequence of:
1. There aren't enough, so I probably won't get one.
2. It won't be fair that I don't get one.

Compared to if GW had stated, for example, "We're sending out these figures to FLGS to use as tournament prizes", or "... to give away in raffles" where if you can't get one, at least you can say that everyone had the same sort of chance.

Of course, you'd probably still have people complaining about imperfections in allocation.

Disclaimer: What is the word for someone that appears to derive a large amount of satisfaction going around being angry about something?

Human.


There would still be complaining if GW had 'intended' them for prizes or raffles. Problem being, unless they do that internally in their own stores, there isn't any way to enforce it (and even internally, some would wander).

 solkan wrote:
This is a really strange situation.

All of this has happened before, it will happen again.

 solkan wrote:

In other words, the logical sequence of:
1. There aren't enough, so I probably won't get one.
2. It won't be fair that I don't get one

I have two secured, the first from my FLGS the other from the "local" GW store.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Indeed. GW testified in court that their designers don't use any outside influences, so clearly any resemblance to movie characters is purely coincidental.

I suppose that's why sly marbo was a thing. To be fair maybe they don't do that any more.

Sly Marbo was removed from the Guard line at the time of that court case... also, I'm sure, completely coincidentally.




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Voss wrote:
Human.


There would still be complaining if GW had 'intended' them for prizes or raffles. Problem being, unless they do that internally in their own stores, there isn't any way to enforce it (and even internally, some would wander).

You're never going to please everyone. But giving everyone a chance to win it rather than just selling to the highest bidder would have rankled less.

On the other hand, if GW do go ahead and produce more afterwards, there's going to be some rather embarrassed owners of $300 miniatures out there...

JWBS wrote:
The more I look at it the worse it gets. That left bicep, man, seems to be connected to his armpit. Horrible balance and proportions overall, I can see why this one was marked as a limited production.

I think it’s rubbish, personally. Thankfully limited, so won’t see to many of them

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

But damn, people are crazy. I mean, it's not like they're never going to make more of them is it? Just be patient.

Hopefully that's the case and more will be made, but so far there hasn't actually been anything saying they will.

You can make an educated guess that they will.

JWBS wrote:
The more I look at it the worse it gets. That left bicep, man, seems to be connected to his armpit. Horrible balance and proportions overall, I can see why this one was marked as a limited production.

Its your typical GW hype figure.
Pure garbage but it'll gain enough hype to sell out fast.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
This is how I think they should all be done. Whether charity or for themselves. Raffles, fair for all, can raise the ‘shocking £150 eBay price’ and then some, but doesn’t cut anyone out from possibly winning..

Doing a raffle for themselves might fall foul of gambling regulations.

Seemingly no license required if the money is for charity.

Sorry to drag this bit back up, but this is sadly not true. My wife is head of fundraising for a UK charity.

A license may not be required if the raffle is done in the correct way, but there are hoops to jump through - if done legally its generally not worth the hassle.

Useful PDF from the gambling commission:
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/PDF/quick-guides/Running-a-lottery-quick-guide.pdf

MiguelFelstone wrote:
I have two secured, the first from my FLGS the other from the "local" GW store.

Why? Do you need 2?
With the limited number of these available, and the amount of people who can use them, having 2 is a bit much? Add in the people who want it to paint and display, it gets worse.
I'd love to have one, as I play IG, but I'm sitting this one out. If people are going to have 2, when there is a (made-up) ratio of 1:100 of models to people, I want nothing to do with it.

did you not learn anything with the whole toilet roll thing? why get one when you could get...two!

 Skinnereal wrote:

MiguelFelstone wrote:
I have two secured, the first from my FLGS the other from the "local" GW store.

Why? Do you need 2?
With the limited number of these available, and the amount of people who can use them, having 2 is a bit much? Add in the people who want it to paint and display, it gets worse.
I'd love to have one, as I play IG, but I'm sitting this one out. If people are going to have 2, when there is a (made-up) ratio of 1:100 of models to people, I want nothing to do with it.

He did explain why, in the part of the post that I edited out.

Suffice to say that Dakka does not and can not endorse copyright infringement.

Just been offered one for the Loot Group.....

Yeah, had to decline politely. Just cannot see any kind of giveaway working out well!

 insaniak wrote:
He did explain why, in the part of the post that I edited out.

Suffice to say that Dakka does not and can not endorse copyright infringement.

I'd hoped there was more to it.
I'll move along.

So would shops that sell GW stuff, but aren't necessarily a FLGS possibly be getting these? There are 2 fairly local toy shops I can think of that have those official GW shelves with their stuff on but I have no idea if that sort of thing counts.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
So would shops that sell GW stuff, but aren't necessarily a FLGS possibly be getting these? There are 2 fairly local toy shops I can think of that have those official GW shelves with their stuff on but I have no idea if that sort of thing counts.

If they have a Trade account with GW, then presumably they would.

I find it funny how many references gw has done. Seriously they are to copyright infringement what China also is to copyright infringement (though maybe to a lesser degree). Not to mention old video games used to make references all the time. I don't mean to be a pain in the butt but let's be real cadians are starship troopers, nids are bugs from starship troopers somewhat, old warhammer fantasy ripped off lord of the rings in significant ways, necrons ripped off terminator, most guard stuff rips off world war 1 or 2 and the gear and propaganda of that time, sigmar and possibly the emperor ripped off Conan the barbarian.

I don't totally crap on gw for using other ips for parody or just some silly reference. Surely we should maybe take this all a little less seriously. You know there was a legit big show that could've sued for copyright having to do with the Flintstones right. Turns out he could've had the rights to the type of show they did but he didn't want to be known as the guy that killed the Flintstones so he let it go.

 Skinnereal wrote:

MiguelFelstone wrote:
I have two secured, the first from my FLGS the other from the "local" GW store.

Why? Do you need 2?

As i said, one isn't really for me it's for my club, specifically for when our escalation league resumes. Also i got both of them by buying large amounts in gift cards the day the stores in my area opened, so it's not like i'm sniping these to resell on Ebay.

Apparently a man came into my local store today and rather aggressively wanted to buy one of these mini’s for €30 and didn’t respond well when he was told “No” because the owner will hold a lottery to give away (for free) the ones the store received. It’s amazing how crazy people can get over this stuff

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
I find it funny how many references gw has done. Seriously they are to copyright infringement what China also is to copyright infringement (though maybe to a lesser degree). Not to mention old video games used to make references all the time. I don't mean to be a pain in the butt but let's be real cadians are starship troopers, nids are bugs from starship troopers somewhat, old warhammer fantasy ripped off lord of the rings in significant ways, necrons ripped off terminator, most guard stuff rips off world war 1 or 2 and the gear and propaganda of that time, sigmar and possibly the emperor ripped off Conan the barbarian.

I don't totally crap on gw for using other ips for parody or just some silly reference. Surely we should maybe take this all a little less seriously. You know there was a legit big show that could've sued for copyright having to do with the Flintstones right. Turns out he could've had the rights to the type of show they did but he didn't want to be known as the guy that killed the Flintstones so he let it go.

To be more precise, Space Marines are Starship Troopers (novel) being power armoured.

If you're going by the Mobile Infantry from the Starship Troopers movie, I'm quite sure metal Cadians predate them and were an evolution from the Rogue Trader Imperial Guard.

I don't think Verhoeven had the budget for armoured Mobile Infantry.

Does the model have two heads? I saw a beareded hatless option but not sure if its legit. Not that it matters, since I can't get one, but still

GaroRobe wrote:
Does the model have two heads? I saw a beareded hatless option but not sure if its legit. Not that it matters, since I can't get one, but still

Some of the images do show a head option.


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Gotta paint him like Mr. T.

Gives me some hope Ripper will have two heads. Not a fan of her current head

If he ever goes on general or at least on a more easily accessible limited sale I might want to get one - to make him a stealer!

 TBD wrote:
Apparently a man came into my local store today and rather aggressively wanted to buy one of these mini’s for €30 and didn’t respond well when he was told “No” because the owner will hold a lottery to give away (for free) the ones the store received. It’s amazing how crazy people can get over this stuff

That's pretty much what i'm going to do with mine, only it's going to my club and i'm buying it from the store.

My sstore is doing deliveries. So they decided whoever suppoted them during this time gets first chance at it.
Well.......I had it in my cart, until i realized he is charging 200$ for it.
I had some respect for the man, that just kinda went out the window after this.....how can you rationalize 200$?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
My sstore is doing deliveries. So they decided whoever suppoted them during this time gets first chance at it.
Well.......I had it in my cart, until i realized he is charging 200$ for it.
I had some respect for the man, that just kinda went out the window after this.....how can you rationalize 200$?

I would expect that of ebay, not the FLGS
I know this is frowned upon but i might just wait until a recaster starts selling it TBH

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I would expect that of ebay, not the FLGS
I know this is frowned upon but i might just wait until a recaster starts selling it TBH

The whole frigging point of this model being limited is for shops to get a big ticket item to sell now.

Comic shops have had similar things going on with special sketches done by industry bigs(and in some of those instances, other industry members have been bidding absurd amounts on their own and specifying that the second highest bidder get the item). It's an artificial cash influx for shops that rely on weekly releases to keep things going.